Slovenian & Ukrainian Surnames

Bill Watamaniuk

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Jun 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/30/97

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At 11:21 AM 29/06/97 -0500, you wrote:
>KATHERINE TKACHUK wrote:
>>
>> I am just beginning to research the following surnames: Tkachuk, Wakaluk,
>> ....... Tkachuk and Wakaluk originate in the Ukraine and
>> immediate sources of information are in western Canada and Ontario.
>> Immigration dates unknown at this time.
>>

Hi,

Vladimir J. Kaye (VJ Kaye), in Dictionary of Ukrainian Canadian
Biography
of Pioneer Settlers of Alberta, 1891-1900 shows:

TKACHUK, Ivan - b.1842 (1830, acc. to obituary notice) in Boian, Chernivtsi
district, Bukovina - d. 2 Dec 1927 in Warspite, Alberta. Arr. Canada on SS
Arcadia, landing at Quebec City 2 May 1897. Children on landing: Wasyl 16,
Veronica 11. Homestead NW-18-56-17-W4th. Widower.

TKACHUK, Konstantin - b.1854 in Kotul Bainsky, Chernivtsi district,
Bukovina - d. 21 Jul 1943 in Shypenitz, Alberta 21 Jul 1943. Wife Dominica
born 1860 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina - d. 5 Sep 1921 in Boian,
Alberta, Canada. Arr. in Canada aboard SS PISA, landing at Halifax 23 May
1898 - children on landing: Semion 14, Ivan 9, Wasyl 7, Giorgi 4, Gregori
1. Homestead SW-4-57-16-W4th in the Wostok, Alberta aistrict.
Children -- Semion, b.1884, d.1942; Nikolay, d. 1965; John (Ivan) served in
the Cdn Expeditionary Force, and after hostilities settled in Arrowhead, BC
- d.1964, buried in Vancouver, BC.

TKACHUK, Mychailo, b. Kotul Bainski, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina, d. 1911
at Whitford, Alberta. Wife Anna, b. Kotul Bainski, 1873, d. 3 Nov 1955 in
Sunland, Alberta. Arrived in Canada aboard SS PISA landing at Halifax 23
May 1898. Children on landing Anastasia 4, Wasyl 3. Meron 2, George an
infant. Homestead NW-34-55-16-W4.
Mychailo (Michael) was a brother of Peter & George. His elder sister,
Elena, married Iwan Ropcean.

TKACHUK, Petro, b. in 1858 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina, d. 10
Apr 1926 in Sunland, Alberta. Wife Dominica b.1864 in Boian, Chernivtsi
district, Bukovina, d. 5 Sep 1921 in Boian, Alberta. Arrived in Canada
aboard SS PISA landing at Halifax 23 May 1898. Homestead
NW-34-55-16-W4-cancelled, new application on SE-14-57-16-W4.

TKACHUK, Tanasko - b. 1859 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina- d.15
Jul 1925 in Krakow, Alberta, Canada. Wife Sanchira (Seraphine) b. 1863 in
Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina- d. 11 Jun 1904 on farm near Wostok,
Alberta, stricken by lightning. Arrived in Canada aboard SS ARMENIA landing
at Halifax 18 Apr 1899. Children on landing: Iwan 7, Paraskitsa 4, Maria 2,
Wasyl 1. Homestead NE-28-55-17-W4.

I hope this is of some help.

Bill W

KATHERINE TKACHUK

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Jun 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/30/97

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>Thank you for the information. It looks like there may be two possibilities
at first glance, going by the names. My mother-in-law may be able to verify.

Kathy T

KATHERINE TKACHUK

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Jun 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/30/97

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At 11:21 AM 6/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>KATHERINE TKACHUK wrote:
>>
>> I am just beginning to research the following surnames: Tkachuk, Wakaluk,

>> Knafelc and Zupancic. Tkachuk and Wakaluk originate in the Ukraine and

>> immediate sources of information are in western Canada and Ontario.
>> Immigration dates unknown at this time.
>>

>> Knafelc (Leopold) and Zupancic (Josefina) originate in Novomesto, Slovenia
>> and also have current sources in western Canada. These are grandparents who
>> arrived in early 1900's. There are known descendants in Canada and in Ohio
>> (possibly Zupancic, Edward and Joanne); possibly Texas as well for Zupancic.
>>
>> Does anyone think they may have a link?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ontario, Canada
>
>
>Though I am not a link to this family, I know of the Zupancic name.
>I am from the Iron Range area of Minnesota and know of at least one
>Zupancic family from Biwabik, MN. They owned a store there called Zup's
>- I know the store is still there, but I'm not sure it is still in the
>family. More information on this family - as I'm not sure they are
>relations of yours - could be found at the Iron Range Research Center in
>Chisholm, MN.
>
>Hope this helps!
>Char
>
>Thank you for the information. I'm not sure these are relations either, but
it is certainly a start and is appreciated.

Kathy

Mary Trauner

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Jul 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/1/97

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In article <1997070103...@mail.ican.net> you write:
>At 11:21 AM 6/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>KATHERINE TKACHUK wrote:
>>>
>>> I am just beginning to research the following surnames: Tkachuk, Wakaluk,
>>> Knafelc and Zupancic. Tkachuk and Wakaluk originate in the Ukraine and
>>> immediate sources of information are in western Canada and Ontario.
>>> Immigration dates unknown at this time.
>>>
>>> Knafelc (Leopold) and Zupancic (Josefina) originate in Novomesto, Slovenia
>>> and also have current sources in western Canada. These are grandparents who
>>> arrived in early 1900's. There are known descendants in Canada and in Ohio
>>> (possibly Zupancic, Edward and Joanne); possibly Texas as well for Zupancic.
>>>
>>> Does anyone think they may have a link?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Ontario, Canada
>>
>>

Hello,
I know there were/are Zupancic in Indianapolis. I seem to remember a
Zupancic hardware store. They may have also run the bowling alley in
my grandmother's neighborhood (the "Slovenian neighborhood" called
Haughville.) I grew up in Indianapolis but have lived in Atlanta the
past 25 years.

My father used to talk about them alot. He is gone, but my uncle is
still living there and really keeps up with all the Slovenians. His
name is Bernard Trauner (Bernie) and his email is btra...@compuserve.com.
He's very friendly and loves to talk with other Slovenians, about Slovenia
(he's made several visits), doing geneology, etc. I feel pretty confident
in saying he'd love to hear from you with your questions about the
Zupancic in Indianapolis (he may know of the other names also.)

My mother grew up in Sheboygan Wisconsin and I always enjoy (?) visiting
the cemetary there -- going through all of the Slovenian names. I'm a
Metelko from that side. I think this must be a common name in Slovenia.
Maybe I'll go there sometime to find out!

Good luck.
Mary

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Bill Watamaniuk

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Jul 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/1/97

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At 12:57 PM 01/07/97 -0400, you wrote:

> You have two different Dominica TKACHUKs, with two different
> husbands, and two different birth years, but the same death date.
> Check this one and Konstantin Tkachuk's wife.
>
>Annie
>
>
Hi, Annie,

You are absolutely right. However, that's the information VJ Kaye
presents. He gathered his info from an assortment of sources, few of them
officially documented - that's not to blame him - he had little to work
with, and did a remarkable job with what was available. At least, in many
cases, his informatyion is a starting point.
So, his information needs to be double checked. I would strongly
recommend
it.

Bill W

Anne Mary C. Chapirson

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Jul 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/1/97

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In a message dated 97-07-01 00:52:11 EDT, you write:

<< TKACHUK, Petro, b. in 1858 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina, d. 10
>Apr 1926 in Sunland, Alberta. Wife Dominica b.1864 in Boian, Chernivtsi
>district, Bukovina, d. 5 Sep 1921 in Boian, Alberta. Arrived in Canada
>aboard SS PISA landing at Halifax 23 May 1898. Homestead
>NW-34-55-16-W4-cancelled, new application on SE-14-57-16-W4. >>

You have two different Dominica TKACHUKs, with two different husbands, and

Karen Ciancio

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Aug 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/1/97

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Bill,
Just caught your response to someone else on this newsgroup and hope
you can help me. I have been trying to begin my family history search
by finding out exactly where my grandparents were from. They say they
are Austrian (they spoke German) but were born in Czernowitz Romania. I
tried to find that in a modern day map and was unable. Then I located
it on an 1882 map that appears to put it in Romania at the time, but
today it seems to be the city of Cernovcy in the Ukraine. Is this
right? I will give you the particulars of my grandparents:

Neumann, Peter, born Mar 9, 1897 Czernowitz, Romania married to Marie
Yurkowski born Sept 8, 1901.

Peter's parents are William Neumann born November 1872 (not sure if
this is accurate) married to Josephine Kirsch born 1874 (again ?
accuracy of date).

Marie's parents are Joseph Yurkowski and Theresa Obertinski (birth
dates unknown).

I would truly appreciate any help you could give me. Also do you know
anything about something called the Carpatho-Ukraine Database of
Austrian Immigrants. I saw a reference to it on a website and don't
know much about it including how to get to it.

Thanks,
Karen C

In article <3.0.1.32.1997063...@ftcnet.com>,
bim...@FTCNET.COM says...

>
>At 11:21 AM 29/06/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>KATHERINE TKACHUK wrote:
>>>
>>> I am just beginning to research the following surnames: Tkachuk,
Wakaluk,

>>> ....... Tkachuk and Wakaluk originate in the Ukraine and

>>> immediate sources of information are in western Canada and Ontario.
>>> Immigration dates unknown at this time.
>>>
>
>

>Hi,
>
> Vladimir J. Kaye (VJ Kaye), in Dictionary of Ukrainian
Canadian
> Biography
>of Pioneer Settlers of Alberta, 1891-1900 shows:
>
>TKACHUK, Ivan - b.1842 (1830, acc. to obituary notice) in Boian,
Chernivtsi
>district, Bukovina - d. 2 Dec 1927 in Warspite, Alberta. Arr. Canada
on SS
>Arcadia, landing at Quebec City 2 May 1897. Children on landing: Wasyl
16,
>Veronica 11. Homestead NW-18-56-17-W4th. Widower.
>
>TKACHUK, Konstantin - b.1854 in Kotul Bainsky, Chernivtsi district,
>Bukovina - d. 21 Jul 1943 in Shypenitz, Alberta 21 Jul 1943. Wife
Dominica

>born 1860 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina - d. 5 Sep 1921 in
Boian,
>Alberta, Canada. Arr. in Canada aboard SS PISA, landing at Halifax 23
May

>1898 - children on landing: Semion 14, Ivan 9, Wasyl 7, Giorgi 4,
Gregori
>1. Homestead SW-4-57-16-W4th in the Wostok, Alberta aistrict.
>Children -- Semion, b.1884, d.1942; Nikolay, d. 1965; John (Ivan)
served in
>the Cdn Expeditionary Force, and after hostilities settled in
Arrowhead, BC
>- d.1964, buried in Vancouver, BC.
>
>TKACHUK, Mychailo, b. Kotul Bainski, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina, d.
1911
>at Whitford, Alberta. Wife Anna, b. Kotul Bainski, 1873, d. 3 Nov 1955
in

>Sunland, Alberta. Arrived in Canada aboard SS PISA landing at Halifax
23

>May 1898. Children on landing Anastasia 4, Wasyl 3. Meron 2, George an
>infant. Homestead NW-34-55-16-W4.
> Mychailo (Michael) was a brother of Peter & George. His elder
sister,
>Elena, married Iwan Ropcean.
>

>TKACHUK, Petro, b. in 1858 in Boian, Chernivtsi district, Bukovina, d.
10
>Apr 1926 in Sunland, Alberta. Wife Dominica b.1864 in Boian,
Chernivtsi
>district, Bukovina, d. 5 Sep 1921 in Boian, Alberta. Arrived in Canada
>aboard SS PISA landing at Halifax 23 May 1898. Homestead
>NW-34-55-16-W4-cancelled, new application on SE-14-57-16-W4.
>