We're Gonna Be Leaving Ya
Henry Brownlee
Our dear AT&T, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that usenet is not its
cuppa tea, so it will eliminate that service sometime in the middle of
July. Since bellsouth.net is part and parcel of ATT, that means me.
I will still surf the surname forums on Genweb for any info on BROWNLEE,
FRENCH, CONNELL, ORR, DUNN, SUTHERLAND, BERNHARDT, BLISS, HOWARD, SPENCE,
MAGILL/McGILL, KERNER, SHUKER, McMAHON, MATHERNE, SAVOIE, PICOU, MALBROUGH,
TOURELLE, MARTIN, HEBERT, MARTINY, KIMBLE, FEDERER, VAN GORDEN, COULTER,
CANTRELLE, BLANCHARD, RICHOUX, VEAZEY, TRAHAN, BABIN, BERGERON, BOQUET, and
a few dozen others.
Until then, I will continue to check out the usenet groups.
It has been a learning experience! And I have found some dear friends and
cousins I am still to meet in the flesh.
Henry French BROWNLEE
Houma, Louisiana USA
hfbr...@bellsouth.net
Joe Makowiec
> Our dear AT&T, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that usenet is
> not its cuppa tea, so it will eliminate that service sometime in
> the middle of July. Since bellsouth.net is part and parcel of ATT,
> that means me.
<snip>
> Until then, I will continue to check out the usenet groups.
Unless there are other reasons, please don't drop out. There are a
number of free providers of Usenet access. The one I use is Eternal
September (http://www.eternal-september.org/), which requires a signup
but is otherwise free. There are also a number of pay services, though
they tend to be quite reasonable. Frequently recommended in that
category is News.Individual.Net (http://news.individual.net/), which
runs �10 (ten euros) per year.
--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org/
Huntersglenn
googlegroups.com - you will most likely need to sign up at google groups
if you want to post with your name (instead of anonymous), but you don't
have to join in order to read the posts at the various usenet groups
that are there.
Cathy
Keith Nuttle
I went through this a couple of weeks ago and found aioe.org. It is
free and so far I have been satisfied.
Renia
Same here. First I used Motzarella then they told me to change to
news.eternal-september.org
It's free and I'm happy.
Albert Conklin
> All groupies,
>
> Our dear AT&T, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that usenet is not its
> cuppa tea, so it will eliminate that service sometime in the middle of
> July. Since bellsouth.net is part and parcel of ATT, that means me.
Like previously mentioned, Motzarrela which will soon become
http://www.eternal-september.org/ is what I was recommended by another
newsgroup.
I left Time Warner Cable because they did away with Newsgroups. Now
AT&T is doing the same thing.
Albert Conklin
Henry Brownlee
"Albert Conklin" <albert...@att.net> wrote in message
news:tNS4m.2$Ad...@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Like previously mentioned, Motzarrela which will soon become
> http://www.eternal-september.org/ is what I was recommended by another
> newsgroup.
> I left Time Warner Cable because they did away with Newsgroups. Now
> AT&T is doing the same thing.
> Albert Conklin
Well, looks like there are at least a couple or three free sites for
newsgroups. I will check them out. AT&T is touting upcoming changes in their
Email service - to be powered by Yahoo. They don't say, but does Yahoo have
a paid subs for newsgroups and that is why AT&T is dropping what they
currently provide as part of their service? Just wondering.
Henry
saraheartburn
Just go to Google & sign up for Google Groups - no fuss, no bother, no
$$$. Many, but not all, of the USENET Groups are easily accessible
there.
NT
Mick
Lesley Robertson
"Henry Brownlee" <hfbr...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:73V4m.20175$Xw4....@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Albert Conklin" <albert...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:tNS4m.2$Ad...@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Like previously mentioned, Motzarrela which will soon become
>> http://www.eternal-september.org/ is what I was recommended by another
>> newsgroup.
>> I left Time Warner Cable because they did away with Newsgroups. Now
>> AT&T is doing the same thing.
>> Albert Conklin
>
> Well, looks like there are at least a couple or three free sites for
> newsgroups. I will check them out.
Good. We'd miss you.
Lesley Robertson
Steve W. Jackson
Joe Makowiec <mako...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 07 Jul 2009 in soc.genealogy.misc, Henry Brownlee wrote:
>
> > Our dear AT&T, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that usenet is
> > not its cuppa tea, so it will eliminate that service sometime in
> > the middle of July. Since bellsouth.net is part and parcel of ATT,
> > that means me.
> <snip>
> > Until then, I will continue to check out the usenet groups.
>
> Unless there are other reasons, please don't drop out. There are a
> number of free providers of Usenet access. The one I use is Eternal
> September (http://www.eternal-september.org/), which requires a signup
> but is otherwise free. There are also a number of pay services, though
> they tend to be quite reasonable. Frequently recommended in that
> category is News.Individual.Net (http://news.individual.net/), which
> runs �10 (ten euros) per year.
I've been using Individual.net since before it became a pay service, and
I must say I recommend it highly and find the price to be more than
reasonable.
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
Steve W. Jackson
Dennis Lee Bieber <wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:29:23 -0700 (PDT), saraheartburn
> <ntant...@aol.com> declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.misc:
>
>
> > Just go to Google & sign up for Google Groups - no fuss, no bother, no
> > $$$. Many, but not all, of the USENET Groups are easily accessible
> > there.
> >
> If they aren't available via NNTP... I don't consider them "easily
> accessible"... No filters, no batch download and read off-line, etc.
Many share your opinion. Many also know that Google Groups is the
source of tons of junk/spam, and the source of lots of bad habits like
failing to quote *any* of the relevant portions of articles when
responding, etc., and they therefore filter out *all* such articles.
Maybe overkill, but...
Jaqian
John Hill
> On 07 Jul 2009 in soc.genealogy.misc, Henry Brownlee wrote:
>
> > Our dear AT&T, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that usenet is
> > not its cuppa tea, so it will eliminate that service sometime in
> > the middle of July. Since bellsouth.net is part and parcel of ATT,
> > that means me.
> <snip>
> > Until then, I will continue to check out the usenet groups.
>
> Unless there are other reasons, please don't drop out. There are a
> number of free providers of Usenet access. The one I use is Eternal
> September (http://www.eternal-september.org/), which requires a signup
> but is otherwise free. There are also a number of pay services, though
> they tend to be quite reasonable. Frequently recommended in that
> category is News.Individual.Net (http://news.individual.net/), which
> runs ten euros per year.
I too use Eternal September (and used its previous incarnation,
Motzarella). It does all I need and Ray banana gives excellent support.
But it does not host binary newsgroups, and you cannot register using an
AT&T e-mail address. This also applies to other domains handled by AT&T
mail servers such as Bellsouth, SBCGLOBAL, Prodigy etc.
John.
--
Please reply to john at yclept dot wanadoo dot co dot uk.
Steve Hayes
>Just go to Google & sign up for Google Groups - no fuss, no bother, no
>$$$. Many, but not all, of the USENET Groups are easily accessible
>there.
Google groups does not provide a proper server. The newsgroups are gated to a
web site.
It's better than nothing, but if you want proper Usenet access, go for
eternal-september.
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/
Steve Hayes
wrote:
>Well, looks like there are at least a couple or three free sites for
>newsgroups. I will check them out. AT&T is touting upcoming changes in their
>Email service - to be powered by Yahoo. They don't say, but does Yahoo have
>a paid subs for newsgroups and that is why AT&T is dropping what they
>currently provide as part of their service? Just wondering.
Have you written to them and asked if you can pay a reduced subscription for
their reduced service?
If no one complains, they will continue to treat their customers like dirt.
Everyone who suffers these reductions in service should write to them to
complain. Say you will be looking for an ISP that provides a full Internet
service, and not a partial one.
Gene Y.
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:24:24 -0500, "Henry Brownlee" <hfbr...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Well, looks like there are at least a couple or three free sites for
>> newsgroups. I will check them out. AT&T is touting upcoming changes in their
>> Email service - to be powered by Yahoo. They don't say, but does Yahoo have
>> a paid subs for newsgroups and that is why AT&T is dropping what they
>> currently provide as part of their service? Just wondering.
>
> Have you written to them and asked if you can pay a reduced subscription for
> their reduced service?
>
> If no one complains, they will continue to treat their customers like dirt.
> Everyone who suffers these reductions in service should write to them to
> complain. Say you will be looking for an ISP that provides a full Internet
> service, and not a partial one.
>
>
"Newsgroups were a FREE added service that we provided at no charge.
They were not included in your contract and you have never paid for
them. We can unfortunately no longer provide these FREE services in
these tight economic times."
Voila, no obligations. And they will not lose subscribers because all
too often they are the only game in town. At least my provider,
Brighthouse/Road Runner provided a free alternative newsgroup provider.
--
Gene Y.
Lesley Robertson
"John Hill" <ne...@erewhon.invalid> wrote in message
news:1j2okqe.1kkqajsfvcjk0N%ne...@erewhon.invalid...
> I too use Eternal September (and used its previous incarnation,
> Motzarella). It does all I need and Ray banana gives excellent support.
>
> But it does not host binary newsgroups, and you cannot register using an
> AT&T e-mail address. This also applies to other domains handled by AT&T
> mail servers such as Bellsouth, SBCGLOBAL, Prodigy etc.
>
The easy solution to that is to open and use a freebie email account such as
Hotmail.
I have all my mailing lists on such an account, just to prevent my main one
getting clogged up with all the Gatewayed stuff.
Lesley Robertson
Albert Conklin
other e-mail providers.
Albert
Henry Brownlee
> Lesley Robertson wrote:
> > The easy solution to that is to open and use a freebie email account
such as
> > Hotmail.
> > I have all my mailing lists on such an account, just to prevent my main
one
> > getting clogged up with all the Gatewayed stuff.
> > Lesley Robertson
> >
> >
> Unfortunately or maybe fortunately, Hotmail is not acceptable to all
> other e-mail providers.
> Albert
Perhaps not, but the newsgroups do not have concern about which ISP is used
to access them.
Henry
Lesley Robertson
"Albert Conklin" <albert...@att.net> wrote in message
news:MHH6m.8631$vO4....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
We were only discussing problems with AT&T.
There's other free email providers. That's why I said "such as Hotmail".
However, I can't see how it matters whether one email provider approves of
another one.
Lesley Robertson
Bob Melson
(l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl) opined:
Could it be the time hono{u}red confusion between this as a usenet
newsgroup and this as a mailing list gatewayed to usenet? On the one
hand, we have the situation Henry and the rest of us have been 'cussin'
and discussin', on the other is, well, an entirely different problem which
is only exacerbated by the poor reputations of the likes of hotmail,
gmail, yahoo and others when it comes to controlling spam or responding
positively to reports of spam.
Soothing Ol' Bob
--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big
enough to take away everything you have. Thomas Jefferson
Wes Groleau
> I will still surf the surname forums on Genweb for any info on ...,
> FRENCH, ..., HOWARD, ..., MARTIN, HEBERT, ...
Probably no connection, but these names do appear in UniGen.us/PGV
--
Wes Groleau
A bureaucrat is someone who cuts red tape lengthwise.