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JArmscoop

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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I have a friend who says that she was born in an Air Force Base, in
Madrid, Spain, in 1969. Her name is Kathrine Ann Sarah Roscoe. The
base is Torrejon[spelling?].

It is apparently closed down, now. It is a strange story. Can anyone
shed any light on this mystery?

Her father was Derek James Roscoe. He was apparently from England.
The story is that he came to America, when he was 18 years
old...apparently in 1965 or so. He was allowed to join the US Air
Force, and avoid the conscription in England. Has anyone ever heard
about this sort of thing in modern day military?

He was sent to Madrid, Spain where he met her mother, who was from
the Phillipines. They are to this day very much involved in
Government work, as diplomats etc. for the USA. When Kitty[as I know
her], was born in 1969, the birth was apparently registered as a
British birth. However; the Spanish embassy and British Embassy for
the USA showed no evidence of a birth certificate for her.

The family returned to the USA, and later were in Africa, and the
parents are apparently stationed in the Cairo, Egypt Office of
Military Cooperation[OMC].

Kitty would simply like to get a copy of her birth certificate. The
parents do not seem inclined to help her with this. It seems a great
mystery and of course could have something to do with the nature of
the parents work. But assuming that her birth would have been
treated as a military birth, though in a foreign country; how would
one go about accessing those records?

I saw a web page that gives information about accessing military
health records and so on, of people stateside, so there must be one
for overseas...even if the bases are closed.

Help???
Joyce in Ca.

jarm...@aol.com (JArmscoop)

catk...@ecity.net

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Jun 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/8/97
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>From: jarm...@aol.com (JArmscoop)


>
>I have a friend who says that she was born in an Air Force Base, in
>Madrid, Spain, in 1969. Her name is Kathrine Ann Sarah Roscoe. The
>base is Torrejon[spelling?].
>
>It is apparently closed down, now. It is a strange story. Can anyone
>shed any light on this mystery?


Hi,

Have you considered writing an American Embassy? Tried contacting
your congressman for your state? Surely they could find out for
you. They understand the inner workings of the government.

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JoedoeL

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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Joyce, this is a common occurrence. I had two children born
overseas at an Air Force base in Germany. their birth certificates
are registered with the State Department of the US. I don't have
the address handy but this will get you started.

Joe at Joe...@aol.com

AnnaM...@aol.com

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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Hi, in the sixties I know lots of children were born on A.F.Bases.
The Air Force Hospitals were on base, if you were married to an
airman you useallt went to the base hospilat for whatever you'd go
to a hospital for.

Dependents were taken care of as well as milatary personel, at most
milatary bases in U S as well as other countries. She would have
had a parent that was in the Air Force, more then likly. Sorry I
can't help more.

AnnaM...@aol.com


LGStrick

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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My brother and sister were born in Bermuda while our father was
stationed there for the Air Force. The papers for naturalization
(to the USA) were not filed before we left (1952). In the 1990's
they needed proof of US citizenship, which they thought they had but
did not. They had to deal with the British Embassy in Bermuda by
providing copies of their birth certificates, our parents' birth
certificates, copies of marriage certificate, our father's military
orders prior to assignment to Bermuda and following to retirement.
It was a great deal of paperwork and the small charges along the way
that accumulate. It took several months, but they obtained their
documentation for passport purposes. They are still British
citizens (living in the USA) and would have to apply for
naturalization if they wish to have US citizenship. That's their
decision from here. We have also lived at Air Force bases which
have since been deactivated and records can be obtained through the
Department of the Air Force. Different kinds of records are kept in
different places, especially in this age of contracting out many
services previously supplies by active military personnel. It may
take a little more detective work for your friend, but the more
specific information she has (such as social security numbers, birth
dates, dates of service, etc.) the easier it will be. She can also
try the OVERSEAS BRATS online group for information. They are most
helpful since many have also had similar problems. Good luck.


lgst...@aol.com (LGStrick)

JNort...@aol.com

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Jun 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/18/97
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My son was born in Germany while his father was in the US Army and
he was recorded in the German clerk's office. He had a record of
"an Americna born overseas" in the state department. His baptismal
certificate in the Catholic faith was registered in the Military
Ordinate in New York. The bishop for the Catholic armed forces was
the archbishop of NY.

JoAnne Norton
JNo...@aol.com
Reston, VA


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