Cleopatra descendants into medieval European royalty?

[Michelle.Mu...@ccmail.team400.ie]

I know that Cleopatra VII herself is outside the realms of medieval history, but
I was wondering if she has notable descendants in European medieval royalty?
I'm sure she has descendants in Egyptian and Middle Eastern royalty, but it's
the European ones I'd be most interested in.

If anyone wanted to veer ever so slightly off-topic and give me a little
information on Cleopatra's three sons and her daughter Cleopatra Selene, and
their immediate descendants, I'd be most grateful!

thanks,

Michelle Murphy

[John Carmi Parsons]

Antony Wagner's *Pedigree and Progress* does not accept that Cleopatra has
any traceable descendants beyond her children. When still a child, Ptolemy XIV
Caesarion was murdered by Augustus. Cleopatra Selene eventually married King
Juba II of Mauretania who is known to have had issue, but those children are
thought to have been by women other than Selene. I know nothing of the fates
of the other two children Cleopatra VII bore Antony. A posting on this list
some months ago indicated that Antony was said to have living descendants in
Asia Minor or Greece in the second or third century CE, but it wasn't clear
from the posting whether or not they were through Antony's children by
Cleopatra--he had issue by at least one other woman, Augustus' sister (two
daughters: poor Claudius' mother Antonia Major and another known as Antonia
Minor, who was I believe a grandmother of Claudius' third wife Messalina and
who could have had other descendants as well).

One would hazard the guess that neither Augustus nor Tiberius would have been
very happy at the prospect of a line of Ptolemaic descendants, especially any
sprung from the union of Mark Antony and Cleopatra. Better, perhaps, and
certainly safer, to have lived a childless, and hence longer and more
peaceful life.

John Parsons

[John Yohalem]

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John Carmi Parsons wrote in message ...

>>A posting on this list
>some months ago indicated that Antony was said to have living descendants
in
>Asia Minor or Greece in the second or third century CE, but it wasn't clear
>from the posting whether or not they were through Antony's children by
>Cleopatra--he had issue by at least one other woman, Augustus' sister (two
>daughters: poor Claudius' mother Antonia Major and another known as Antonia
>Minor, who was I believe a grandmother of Claudius' third wife Messalina
and
>who could have had other descendants as well).

I believe Claudius's mother was Antonia Minor. His aunt, Antonia Maior,
married Valerius Messala.

Antony had two sons by his first wife, Fulvia, and both -- as well as his
children by Cleopatra -- were taken in and raised with her own children by
his widow, Octavia. The sons died without heirs -- apparently one had been a
lover of Augustus's daughter, Julia.

Jean Coeur de Lapin