Theophania de Lascelles

[Raymond Phair]

On 11 Jan 1999 Jay Cary asked if there was additional information
about the ancestry of Theophania de Lascelles.

1. Theophania de Lascelles, m. Ralph fitz Ranulf of Spennithorne, Yorks.
2. Roger de Lascelles lord Lascelles
3. Elizabeth/Isabel -- (see below)
4. Thomas de Maunby
5. Avice de Lascelles
10. Robert de Lascelles
20. Roger de Lascelles
21. Beatrice --

40. Picot de Lascelles, as Picot son of Roger de Lacela occurs 1136-47;
succeeded by 1161; died 1167-79.[1]
41. Tiffany or another dau. of Roald.[1, 2]
80. Roger de Lascels, 1st seen as Roger son of Picot 1100-c.1116;
succeeded by 1130; died 1136-61.[1]
82. Roald fitz Harscod, constable of Richmond (Yorks.) by c.1130; died
c.1152-58 [2]. He called Stephen count of Brittany (honor of
Richmond) his kinsman [4], but the actual relationship has not
been found. Stephen was a younger brother of the two count Alans.
83. Garsiena, alive c.1152 [2, 4].
160. Picot de Laceles, Domesday tenant of count Alan in Yorkshire and
Lincolnshire; died 1115-30.[1]
164. Harscod [2]. Two earlier discussions did not insert this generation
[4, 5]. There appears to be no chronological necessity for it,
and no evidence of his existence has been found. Clay, when he
proposed this generation, noted that the names Harscod and Hasculf
were probably equivalent [2].
166. (probably) Enisan Musard, Domesday tenant of count Alan in
Yorkshire, Cambridgeshire, and Norfolk; died c.1121-1130.[2]
328. (probably) Hasculf de St. James (or de St. Hilaire, after his 2
estates in Normandy), in England before 1089 (but he was not in
Domesday); held land in Northamptonshire; died 1115-30.[2, 3, 6]

3. Elizabeth/Isabel --.

CP has two possible clues to her identity: the manor of
Ellerton-on-Derwent, Yorkshire, was her marriage gift and her
husband was returned as the lord of it sometimes jointly with
Thomas de Greystoke [7]. At the time of her death in 1323 (as a
widow) she was in possession of the manor [8].

The 1575 visitation of Yorkshire stated she was the daughter of
William fitz Thomas, while Banks and J.W. Clay (based on unspecified
material) said she was the daughter and heir of Thomas fitz Thomas
[9]. A tempting candidate for her might have been Elizabeth,
daughter of Thomas son of Thomas fitz William de Greystoke, who
seemed to be a compatible age, but she was alive in 1327 [10].
William fitz Thomas de Greystoke of the senior line does not appear
to have had a daughter named Elizabeth/Isabel [9, 3]. The history of
Ellerton may provide further clues to her identity.

[1] "Early Yorkshire Charters", 1914-65, 5:182-5, ed. C.T. Clay.
[2] EYC 5:83-95; 4:11-12.
[3] I.J. Sanders, "English baronies", 1960, pp.44, 50.
[4] VCH, Yorkshire, North Riding, ed. W. Page, 1914-1923, 1:233.
[5] Yorkshire Rec. Ser. 83:6-7 (1932), ed. C.T. Clay.
[6] "Regesta regum anglo-normannorum", 2:no.1266 (1956), ed. C.
Johnson & H.A. Cronne.
[7] "Complete Peerage", ed. V. Gibbs, repr. 1982, 7:448.
[8] "Calendar of inquisitions post mortem", 6:no.425.
[9] Surtees Soc. 146:17 (1932), ed. C.H. Hunter Blair; T.C. Banks,
"The dormant and extinct baronage of England", 1807-37, 4:32;
J.W. Clay, "The extinct and dormant peerages of the northern
counties of England", 1913, pp.94-5, 120.
[10] CIPM, 7:no.14.
Ray Phair