Hello Steve
This is most interesting to me as I descend from three of Abraham and
Bridget's children:
Mary who married John Bicknell, (then John Bicknell 1654-1737, Benjamin
Bicknell 1694-1772, Hannah Bicknell 1723-1806, Mary Burrell 1755-1815,
Elizabeth (Betsey) Cushing 1781-1860, Susanna Nash 1809-1884, Rev. William
Gilbert Marsh 1841-1930.
John who married Alice Phillips, then Nicholas Shaw 1662-1717, Alice Shaw
1687-1751, Joshua Bates 1712-1742, Mary or Martha Bates 1724-1762, Martha
Porter 1755-1818, Timothy Nash 1777-1852, Susannah Nash 1809-1884, Rev.
William Gilbert Marsh 1841-1930.
And Martha who married Nicholas Byram, then Deliverance Byram 1638-1720,
John Porter 1667-1723, John Porter 1702-1767, John Porter 1729-1769, Martha
Porter 1755-1818, Timothy Nash 1777-1852 (as above).
My great grandfather Rev. William Gilbert Marsh came to Australia in 1868
where there are many Marsh descendants.
Hope you nail their ancestors!
Best wishes
Merilyn Pedrick
Aldgate, South Australia
-------Original Message-------
From: Steve Riggan
Date: 17/07/2012 10:18:43 AM
To: Medieval genealogy discussion group
Subject: Lacy family of Cromwelbotham and allied families of Rishworth
Waterhouse, Boithes, Best and Shaw
Hello newsgroup. I have seen many of the articles on the Lacy family of
Brearley and Cromwellbottom/Cromwellbotham in Yorkshire related to my
ancestress Margaret Lacy, wife of William Farrar of Ewood. However, I
recently found a possible link through my mother's Byrams in Massachusetts
which I am still working out. In short, Nicholas Byram's father-in-law
Abraham Shaw, formerly of Halifax, Yorkshire, had settled in Dedham, MA
after Oct. 1636, originally living at Watertown, MA. His wife, Bridget Best,
was descended from the Lacy of Cromwellbotham and Rishworth of Coley Hall
families according to information I got from another family researcher, but
I haven't seen any primary sources on this lineage and would like the eyes
of the newsgroup on it. To make this reading easier, I'll create a quick
view family tree with pertinent information for easy reference. I would
appreciate any information to clear up this line. I don't quote sources
because I have none to quote and !
Hopefully there will be someone in the newsgroup who has access to records
or information to back up these claims. Abraham Shaw, mentioned below, is
recorded in English records regarding business interests in the coal mines
and is associated several times with the Farrar family who were also
intermarried into the Lacys of Brearley and Cromwelbotham.
I am including snippets of information on Abraham Shaw and his business
associates in coal mining that I gleaned from other researchers. It doesn't
really pertain to the older family lineage, but just shows the connection
the Shaws had with Yorkshire families associated with the the old landed
gentry who would connect with his wife Bridget Best.
The line starts with John Rishworth of Coley Hall:
John Rishworth of Coley Hall b. Ca. 1425, d. Before 7 June 1474married
unnamed daughter of John Lacy of Cromwelbotham and Florence Molyneaux or
Emota (?) I can find absolutely no proof of this claim online. Hopefully
there will be something in records regarding the Lacys or Rishworths.
John Rishworth of Coley Hallb. Ca 1450 Coley Hall, Hipperholme, Yorkshire, d
1533?wife unknown
Agnes Rishworthd. Bef. 30 Oct. 1542 married John Waterhouse, son of Robert
Waterhouse of Shibden Hall and Sybil OtesJohn died aft. 14 Apr 1545 in
Halifax, Yorkshire
Agnes Waterhouse married George Boithes of BoithesGeorge died after 21 Apr.
1569 Halifax, Yorkshire
John "of Shaye" Boithes married Isabella Swift, daughter of Richard Swift
and Margaret Ridelhagh 27 Mar 1548 Halifax, YorkshireJohn died 27 Mar 1568
in Halifax
Grace Boitheschristened 16 July 1557 Halifax, Yorkshiremarried Henry Best of
Ovenden, Yorkshire in Halifax 23 Dec 1577Henry was b. 2 Dec 1552 in Ovenden,
Yorkshire and d. Sept 1622 at Holdsworth, Ovenden, Halifax, Yorkshire
Bridget Best b. Bef. 9 Apr 1592, Ovenden, Yorkshiremarried Abraham Shaw 24
Jan 1616 Halifax, YorkshireAbraham emigrated to Watertown, MA between 1630
and 1636. He was mentioned by lawyer Thomas Lechford of Massachusetts as
owning coal mines in Yorkshire. He was associated with the Farrars of Ewood
who had relations in Virginia at the same time Abraham settled in
Massachusetts.
>From genforum. Com by Boots Farrar regarding Henry and Agnes (Horsfalls?)
Farrar who were ancestors to Col William Farrar of Virginia, grandson of
William and Margaret Lacy Farrar, my father's ancestor. Abraham Shaw is my
mother's ancestor who married Bridget Best, a Lacy and Rishworth descendant,
and settled in Massachusetts after 1630:
http://genforum.genealogy
com/farrar/messages/2640.html
Re: Henry Farrar, son of Henry and Agnes (Horsfalls?) Farrar"Henry son of
Henry and Agnes, leased land for a coal mine to an Abraham Shaw. John Farrar
brother of William fferrar of Va, sold the family hunting lodge at Westwood
in Surrey to Robert Terry in 1643. John was living at Westwood during the
1623 visitation by the King's Herald, his and Williams brother Henry was
living at Great Amwell Hall, Hertfordshire during the 1634 visitation by the
King's Herald."
>From
http://familytreemaker.genealogy
25th September 1635.!
While in Sculcote, Abraham is trying to borrow money to finance coal mining.
He is recorded in Northowram on 5th June 1635 when he gave a bond to Joseph
Lister of Netherbrea and would have left for New England at about the same
time as his surrender of the copyhold land. He is absent 21st September 1635
from a mandatory appearance at the Court Baron. [CI:121:?1:CI]
Abraham Shaw was born on 14 November 1585 at Northowram, Halifax Parish,
Yorkshire, England. He married Bridget Best on 24 June 1616 at Halifax,
Yorkshire, England. Abraham Shaw immigrated in 1636. He [CR:]ABRAHAM SHAW, a
clothier, came from Northowram, Halifax, Yorkshire, Eng., in the Anne, 1636,
to Watertown, Mass. In Oct. 1636, his house and all his goods were burned
and he removed to Dedham, where he had twelve acres and was called a planter
In Feb. 1637, he was granted 60 acres and the right to build a corn mill,
and was one of the men appointed to govern the town. Freeman, 1637;
constable, 1638. He married in Halifax, Eng., June 24, 1616, Bridget Best,
who was bapt. Ovenden, Halifax, Eng., Apr. 9, 1592, daughter of Henry Best.
Names of their children are from the church records of Halifax, Eng. He
probably died in 1638, as his will was proved late in that year. It mentions
his oldest son Joseph, dau. Mary, and calls John and Martha infants. His
wife had died earlier.!
Children:-- Susanna, m. 1635, Nicholas1 Byram. Joseph, bapt. Mar. 14, 1618,
d. 1653, m. (1) (???), (2) 1653, Mary Souther (Nathaniel1). Grace, bapt. Aug
15, 1621, m. William1 Richards. Martha, bapt. Dec. 1, 1623, bur. Mar. 31,
1625. Maria, bapt. June 18, 1626, d. 1658, m. John Bicknell (Zachariah1).
John, bapt. Feb. 16, 1628, bur. Apr. 12, 1629. +John, bapt. May 23, 1630, d.
1704, m. Alice Phillips (Nicholas1). Martha, bapt. Jan. 6, 1632, d. 1698
__________ The New England Ancestry of Dana Converse Backus Author: Mary E.
N. Backus This book has over 30 families, and about 1500 names documented.
Includes very interesting stories and personal accounts. Also includes
references to information leading to this book.
Re: Abraham Shaw. . . . died before the following 25th of March (the first
day of the new year 1639) since his inventory is dated 1638. His will is not
dated and it seems to have been a mere Memorand and is soheaded. His wife is
not named in it and the date of her death is not on record. Specific
bequests were made to John and Martha, being infants, and also to Marye
(Maria, baptized June 18, 1626, and now about twelve years old). 'My lott at
Dedham' was to go to Joseph and John. 'All my children' are referred to but
only the above four are individually named. Witnesses were Joseph Shawe and
Nicholas Biram, and they were ordered by the court to make an inventory by
help and advice of Mr. Edward Allen. Thomas Lechford, the first professional
lawyer in the Colony of Massachusetts Bay, spent about three years in Boston
(27 June 1638-3 Aug. 1641). His note book contains not only the record of
every instrument drawn by him while here but an account of the compensation
he receive!
erect a corn mill Feb!
ruary 12, 1637. Mary, supposed to be his wife, was admitted to the church at
Charlestown, July 1, 1646. He died in 1638, and his will, made November of
that year, was proved before the end of the year. He mentions Joseph, John,
Mary and Martha, his children, and Nicholas Byram, son-in-law. Of the
children Joseph removed to Weymouth; John is mentioned below; Mary was born
about 1638; Martha born about (???); Susanna married Nicholas Byram before
1638. __________ The Hamlin Family Author: Lyman S. Shreeve Call Number:
CS71.H223
Hopefully, this information will provide a back drop in confirming Bridget
Best Shaw's family connections to the Lacys of Cromwelbotham and the
Rishworths of Coley Hall.
Steve Riggan
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