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M.Sjostrom

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Mar 25, 2008, 8:51:08 PM3/25/08
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tentative lineage from William Wallace the Guardian
through the Baillie of Lamington,
to lots of families living in the present day...

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knight William Wallace, Guardian of Scotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace
son (probably) of Alan Wallace, mother according to
some tradition was Margaret Crauford, sister of laird
of Loudoun, Sheriff of Ayrshire
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316385&tree=LEO
- according to non-contemporary tradition, bethrothed
with Marion Braidfoot (a historically unattested
person), daughter of Hugh de Braidfute - whose family
the tradition links with Lamington, Lanarkshire
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00316385&tree=LEO
* and by her had daughter:

(anonyma) Wallace (estimate, born c1297) - she is not
a historical person, as there is no near-contemporary
evidence about her existence. Her existence and
genealogical role has apparently first been
'documented' in tale of Blind Harry, 1470s. Lack of
contemporary evidence however does not mean that she
inevitably never existed... This is a question of
dismissing totally the Blind Harry tradition, or
giving its elements a benefit of doubt, or a credence
of oral tradition.
married firstly squire Shaw;
married secondly a man of the blood of the Baliol -
possibly Baliol of Hoprig, as the tradition wants us
to believe
* son of second marriage seemingly was, if oral
tradition is to be believed:

sir William Baillie, 1st laird of Lamington (attested
1346, 1357 and 1368 - estimates, born c1325, d after
1368)
* his son probably was:

William Baillie, of Hoprig [possibly 2nd laird of
Lamington] (fl 1395; estimate, born in 1350s);
married, according to some tradition, Isabella Seton
of that Ilk (estimates, born in 1370s, perhaps
c1370), allegedly daughter of sir William de Seton, of
that Ilk, and his wife Janet Fleming. If her
allocation to the chronological situation of a
daughter of that historical couple were untrue, then
her husband probably married and had children already
some years earlier...
* His son and heir was:

sir William Baillie, 3rd laird of Lamington (mentioned
1432, possibly died after 1466; estimate, born in
1390s, perhaps c1390)
Catherine Hamilton of Cadzow (estimate, born in
1390s), daughter of sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow,
and his wife Janet Douglas (whose marriage was
contracted in 1388)
* their son was:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00363076&tree=LEO&displayoption=all&generations=3

sir William Baillie, 4th laird of Lamington (mentioned
1484, 1485; d after 1485 - estimate, born c1418)
married (in c1430) Marion Seton (estimate, born
c1420), daughter of a John Seton. Sir John Seton, of
that Ilk (almost the only eligible 'John Seton' of
the era), married in or bef 1392 his wife Catherine -
if Marion was their daughter, then she was a very late
child.
* son or grandson of his was:

sir William Baillie, 5th laird of Lamington (mentioned
1492, d bef 1521; estimates, born between 1460 and
1470); married (before 1492) Marion Hume of Polwarth
(estimate, born around 1470), daughter of sir Patrick
Hume, of Polwarth, Comptroller of Scotland, and
probably ?his first wife.
* their son was:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00498957&tree=LEO

sir William Baillie, 6th laird of Lamington (estimate,
born in 1490s); married Elizabeth Lindsay of the Byres
(estimate, born c1500), daughter of John Lindsay, 3rd
Lord of The Byres (died around 1500), but presumably
NOT by his wife Marion Baillie (of Lamington) [who
could have been born c1470].
* Their son was:

sir William Baillie, 7th laird of Lamington, Master of
Royal Wardrobe [of queen-consort Marie] (born in or
bef 1520, attested 1542)
married Jean Hamilton of Finnart (estimate, born in
1510s), illegitimate daughter of 1st Earl of Arran,
allegedly by his lover Mary Boyd.
* their son was:

sir William Baillie, 8th laird of Lamington (estimate:
born c1540, d after 1594, in late 1590s ?); married
firstly (c1559) Margaret Maxwell, Dowager Countess of
Angus (d bef or in 1594).
* their elder daughter was:

Margaret Baillie of Lamington, heiress (estimate: born
in 1560s, attested 1577, c1598, d after 1597, possibly
long after; ?after 1607?); married firstly her first
cousin Edward Maxwell (obs! seemingly he d 1598).
* their son was:

sir William (Maxwell) Baillie, 9th laird of Lamington
(estimate, born in 1580s, possibly d 1615).
* either his son was, or he himself married lady of
that name:

William Baillie, laird of Lamington (estimate, born
c1610); married Grizel Hamilton of Baldony (estimate,
born between 1605 and 1612), daughter of sir Claud
Hamilton, of Baldony

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Come on and shoot!


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