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Sticking a pin in Joan Daubeny, heiress of Mary Leeke heiress

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wjhonson

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:32:31 PM3/4/08
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For some time I have been carrying around Joan Daubeny (aka
d'Aubigny), wife of Sir Robert Markham, Knt of Cotham without really
having a good idea of exactly where she goes nor of any useful
chronology.

While I was trying to hunt up a ref for one of MA-R's tomb
enumerations, I noticed that I oddly had similar sounding people under
both Daubeny and d'Aubigny.

Collating and cross-checking I can now report the following.

The Manor of Cotham was held by Sir Simon Leeke, MP Notts 1404 and
Sheriff Notts 1416. He was "of age by 1390" and died between 1424 and
1429. By his wife given only as "Joan Talbot daughter of Sir John of
Swannington" he had *four* (although some say three) daughters and co-
heiresses

Mary Leeke married Sir Giles Daubeny
Margaret Leeke married John Markham, K.B., Chief Justice
Elizabeth Leeke married Hugh Heroy, esq (anyone know *who* this is?)
Anne Leeke married Richard Willoughby

Mary Leeke is called the eldest co-heiress of indeed she as the
heiress of the Manor of Cotham and Houghton-by-Newark passed these to
*her only daughter* Joan Daubeny who married Sir Robert Markham,
making him the holder of Cotham *jure uxoris*

Cotham then descendend in turn to their son John Markham.

Now back to the news. I had not previously realized that Sir Giles
Daubeny had an IPM. I had already known that his son and heir by Joan
Darcy, William who would become the 5th Lord Daubeny was "aged 22 and
more" at his father's death.

What I had *not* known was that Giles IPM as well specifies the
daughter Joan, by his second marriage, as her mother Mary Leeke had
predeceased Giles. So Giles was evidently holding Joan's inheritence
but now since he is dead it has to be specified and I suppose there
was some sort of guardian, but I don't know.

At any rate in her father's IPM, Joan is "aged 5 and more" and this
is 24H6. That greatly helps in narrowing down the ages of the four co-
heiresses (her aunts), and also most likely helps us narrow the age
for her husband and children by quite a bit.

Will Johnson

mj...@btinternet.com

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Mar 5, 2008, 5:54:40 AM3/5/08
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Will - you are right, there were four (not three) coheirs:

"Sir Thomas Rempston, Sir John Pygot, Nicholas Wymbyssh, William
Rempston, George Plumpton, Robert Stokwyth, clerks, Robert Rempston,
esquire, Ralph Leek of Kirton, Hugh Wymbyssh, John Leek of Halom and
Richard Wakefield of Newark, to Thomas Leek and John Bingham,
esquires: to deliver seisin to Mary, wife of Sir Giles Dawbeney
(eldest daughter of Simon Leek, esquire, deceased), the manor of
Cotom, 40 acres in meadow called Stokemede, and all other property in
Hawton which they with others had of the gift of Simon Leek, to Mary
and the heirs of her body, with remainder to Margaret, wife of John
Markham (second daughter of Simon Leek) and the heirs of her body,
then to Elizabeth, wife of Hugh Hercy, esquire (third daughter of
Simon Leek) and the heirs of her body, then to Anne, wife of Richard
Wyloughby, esquire (fourth daughter of Simon Leek) and the heirs of
her body, then to the right heirs of Simon Leek", 1 June 1439
(Portland papers, Notts Archives, 157 DD/P).

MA-R

mj...@btinternet.com

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Mar 5, 2008, 6:06:54 AM3/5/08
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On Mar 5, 1:32 pm, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> For some time I have been carrying around Joan Daubeny (aka
> d'Aubigny), wife of Sir Robert Markham, Knt of Cotham without really
> having a good idea of exactly where she goes nor of any useful
> chronology.
>
> While I was trying to hunt up a ref for one of MA-R's tomb
> enumerations, I noticed that I oddly had similar sounding people under
> both Daubeny and d'Aubigny.
>
> Collating and cross-checking I can now report the following.
>
> The Manor of Cotham was held by Sir Simon Leeke, MP Notts 1404 and
> Sheriff Notts 1416.  He was "of age by 1390" and died between 1424 and
> 1429.  

Roskell (HoP) says he was JP for Notts 1420-1429 - implying his was
living in 1429 - and adds only that he was dead "by 1429".

> By his wife given only as "Joan Talbot daughter of Sir John of
> Swannington" he had *four* (although some say three) daughters and co-
> heiresses
>
> Mary Leeke married Sir Giles Daubeny

You note that his IPM was from 24 Henry VI. This is useful, since HoP
says he died 1456, yet ODNB says 1446.

Can you cite a reference for the IPM - I can't find it on PROCAT [ODNB
seems to imply a PCC will, but I can't find that either - might be
another Giles D, of course.]

MA-R

jonathan kirton

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Mar 5, 2008, 7:19:39 AM3/5/08
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Dear Michael,

I recognize one of the names on your email this morning: "Ralph Leek
of Kirton"

Radulpus de Leek, Esq., of Kirketon / Kirton Hall, Screveton, and of
Sibthorpe, co. Notts. ( ref.: Thoroton, pages
244-252)

He was the son of William de Leek, who had become "of Kirketon Hall"
by his marriage to Avicia de Stockton, only daughter and heiress of
John de Stockton of Carton and Kirkby Bellers, co. Leics. and his
wife, the eldest daughter and co-heir of her father Thomas de
Kirketon of Kirketon Hall, and of her brother, Walter de Kirketon.

Radulphus de Leek married Agnes Babington, but their only son John de
Leek died s.p. before his father, so that Radulphus died seized of
the Manor of Kirketon, and of Kirketon / Kirton Hall. He was
succeeded by Thomas Leek of Kirketon, Esq., the son of Nicholas de
Leek, who was a nephew of Radulphus.

Thomas Leek of Kirketon, Esq., and his wife Jane had one daughter,
Elizabeth Leek, by whose marriage to Thomas Whalley, Esq., Kirketon /
Kirton Hall came to the Whalley's, who held the Hall for the next
five generations.

Both the Leeks and the Whalleys always seem to have adopted the
addition of "of Kirketon", or "of Kirton" to their names while they
occupied the Hall, down until 1628, when they finally ceased the
practice.

The Hall eventually came into the possession of members of Thoroton's
own family following the Civil War, and was finally dismantled in the
1820s.

Hope this may be of interest,

Jonathan Kirton

ScottyFLL

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Mar 5, 2008, 9:18:02 AM3/5/08
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See my blog for additional information.
http://scottsalberg.blogspot.com/

al...@mindspring.com

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Mar 5, 2008, 6:01:36 PM3/5/08
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On Mar 4, 9:32 pm, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:

Will

Hugh Heroy would be Hugh Hercy.

Doug Smmith

wjhonson

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Mar 5, 2008, 6:39:52 PM3/5/08
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On Mar 5, 3:06 am, mj...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> You note that his IPM was from 24 Henry VI.  This is useful, since HoP
> says he died 1456, yet ODNB says 1446.
>
> Can you cite a reference for the IPM - I can't find it on PROCAT [ODNB
> seems to imply a PCC will, but I can't find that either - might be
> another Giles D, of course.]
>
------------------
http://books.google.com/books?id=0KQKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA110&dq=sir+john+daubeny+giles&as_brr=1

See the footnote.

Will

wjhonson

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Mar 5, 2008, 6:48:22 PM3/5/08
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On Mar 5, 4:19 am, jonathan kirton <jonathankir...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Radulphus de Leek married Agnes Babington, but their only son John de  
> Leek died s.p. before his father, so that Radulphus  died seized of  
> the Manor of Kirketon, and of  Kirketon / Kirton Hall.  He was  
> succeeded by Thomas Leek of Kirketon, Esq., the son of Nicholas de  
> Leek, who was a nephew of Radulphus.
>
> Thomas Leek of Kirketon, Esq., and his wife Jane had one daughter,  
> Elizabeth Leek, by whose marriage to Thomas Whalley, Esq., Kirketon /  
> Kirton Hall came to the Whalley's, who held the Hall for the next  
> five generations.
>
> Jonathan Kirton

Above do you mean that Thomas was the nephew of Ralph? Or do you mean
that Nicholas was the nephew of Ralph? Your sentence can be read
either way.

Also, are these the same family as the Whalley's of Cotgrave ?

Thanks
Will Johnson

jonathan kirton

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Mar 6, 2008, 7:04:39 AM3/6/08
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Dear Will,

Thomas Leek of Kirketon, Esq. was the nephew of Radulphus de Leek,
Esq., of Kirketon Hall.

Nicholas de Leek must have been a brother of Radulphus, and was the
father of Thomas.

I have nothing on a connection to the Whalley's of Cotgrave, although
the family of Whalley's that came to own Kirketon Hall originated
with Richard Whalley, Esq., of Darleston, com. Staffordshire, who
married Elizabeth Leek, heiress of Kirton Hall, Screveton.

From earlier times the 1614 Visitation of Nottinghamshire, p.117,
shows that the Whalley coat of arms already contained twelve
quarterings, including:-
Whalley / Mowbray / Leek or Leake / Hatfield / Mallet / Ward /
Francis / Selioke.

Evidently by agreement with the heralds office this was subsequently
reduced to eight quarterings, including:-
Whalley / Leek or Leake / Mowbray / FitzArcher / Kirton.

By the time Richard Whalley of Kirton (b. 1499) died on 23 Nov., 1583
the quarterings had been reduced to just four:- Whalley / Mowbray /
(unknown) / Leeke. (He had even dropped Kirton, even though he was
still living at Kirton Hall.) These arms may still be seen on his
superb alabaster tomb, which includes his effigy in full armor, in
the Screveton Parish church. He had been the Nottinghamshire Knight
of the Shire (MP) in 1553 - 1554.

Maybe the foregoing will provide a clue back to the Whalley's of
Cotgrave?

Sincerely, Jonathan



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