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C.P. Additiion: Margery Pecche, wife of Nicholas de Criol (died 1303) and Sir Ralph [le] Sauvage

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Douglas Richardson

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Dec 2, 2020, 6:09:03 PM12/2/20
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 3 (1913): 542 (sub Criol) includes the following information regarding Nicholas de Crioll (died 1303) and his wife, Margery Pecche:

"NICHOLAS DE CRIOL, of Eynsford, Stockbury, Westenhanger, &c., Kent, and Croxton Kerrial, co. Leicester, s. and h. of Nicholas DE CRIOL, of Croxton, and of Cherry Hinton, co. Cambridge, sometime Warden of the Cinque Ports (who d. shortly before 2 July 1273), by his 1st wife, Joan, da. and h. of William D'AUBERVILLE, of Eynsford, &c., Kent ... He m., before 10 Feb. 1272/2, Margery, da. of Gilbert PECHE, of Westcliff, Kent. He d. 12 Oct. 1303. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 1 Jan. 1303/4. Her will, directing her burial to be at the Friars Minor at Bedford, dat. 31 Mar. 1319 (Lincoln Reg.)." END OF QUOTE

There is no question that Nicholas de Criol (died 1303) was the son of Nicholas de Criol the elder (died 1273), by his 1st wife, Joan d'Auberville. This relationship is proven by the following record:

Rotuli Hundredorum 2 (1818): 432 (Date: 1279–80: Nicholas de Criol, then a minor in the king’s custody, is stated to be the son of Nicholas de Kyriel [the elder],by Joan, daughter of William de Abrevile).

Complete Peerage correctly states Margery Pecche, widow of Nicholas de Criol (he died 1303), was assigned dower 1 Jan. 1303/4. However, no further record of her life is provided, save a false statement that she left a will dated 1319.

Chris Phillips on his excellent website, Some Notes on Medieval English Genealogy, has correctly pointed out that the Margery de Crioll who left a will dated 31 March 1319 was actually the widow of the elder Nicholas de Criol (died 1273), not Margery Pecche, widow of the younger Nicholas de Criol (died 1303).

As for the subsquent history of Margery Pecche, my research indicates that she married (2nd) by license dated 20 June 1304 Ralph [le] Sauvage, Sheriff of Kent, 1321–2, and, in right of his wife, of Westenhanger, Kent [for their license to marry, see C.P.R. 1301–1307 (1898): 236 (editor erroneously refers to a license granted in 1304 to Margery, widow of John Cryel; original document, however, actually calls her Margery, widow of Nicholas de Cryel)]. In 1303–4 Ralph le Sauvage and Margaret [sic] his wife conveyed the manor of Benhall, Suffolk to Guy Ferre, which manor was previously settled on Margery and her 1st husband, Nicholas de Criol, by his father at the time of their marriage [see Rye Cal. Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 108]. In 1306 Ralph Sauvage and Margery his wife sued Nicholas de Crioll and Stephen de Segrave in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the presentation to the church of Ightham, Kent [see Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 16f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/aCP40no159fronts/IMG_0017.htm)]. The same year Robert, Archbishop of Canterbury, sued Nicholas son of Nicholas Cryel, Robert and Thomas brothers of the said Nicholas, heirs of the said Nicholas de Cryel, and Ralph Sauvage and Margery his wife, custodian of the bodies and lands of Gilbert, William, and Simon, brothers and co-heirs of the said Nicholas, Robert, and Thomas, in the Court of Common Pleas that the said Ralph and Margery and the said Gilbert, William, and Simon warranty to him the third part of a moiety of the manor of Wrotham, Kent, which the said Ralph and Margery claimed as her dower [see Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 41f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/aCP40no159fronts/IMG_0041.htm)]. The same year Ralph and Margery his wife sued Master Henry de Northwode in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the third part of Littleho in Erith, Kent, which Margery claimed as her dower by the dotation of Nicholas de Cryol her former husband [see Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 608d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/CP40no159dorses/IMG_0608.htm)]. In 1307 Ralph Sauvage, of Kent, owed Philip Bonaventure and Bindo Bonaventure his brother, merchants of Florence, a debt of 100s. [see National Archives, C 241/59/12; C 241/65/100; C 241/79/335 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk)]. Sir Ralph le Sauvage presented to the church of Westenhanger, Kent in 1312, 1327, and 1328 [see Archaeologia Cantiana 31 (1915): 84–91].

One of the lawsuits dated 1306 cited above indicates that Nicholas de Crioll the younger and Margery Pecche had a total of six sons, Nicholas (the heir), Robert, Thomas, Gilbert, William, and Simon. As far as I know, this is the first time a full account of their children has been located.

I've copied below my current file account of Nicholas Criol the younger (died 1303) and his wife, Margery Pecche.

For interest’s sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Margery Pecche, wife successively of Nicholas de Criol and Sir Ralph le Sauvage:

William Bladen, Francis Dade, Gabriel, Roger & Sarah Ludlow, John Oxenbridge

Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
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9. MARGERY (or MARGARET) PECCHE, married before 25 Nov. 1271 (date of fine) NICHOLAS DE KYRIEL (or CRIELL, CRIOL, CRIOLL, CRYOL, CRYELL, CRYELE), Knt., of Eynsford, Stockbury, Walmer, and Westenhanger (in Stanford), Kent, Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire, Halyrode and Sarre, Kent, Croxton Kerrial, Leicestershire, Benhall, Suffolk, Croham (in Croydon), Surrey, etc., son and heir of Nicholas de Kyriel [died shortly before 10 Feb. 1272], of Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire, Pope’s Hall (in Buckland), Hertfordshire, Sarre, Kent, Croxton Kerrial, Leicestershire, Benhall, Suffolk, etc., Warden of the Cinque Ports, by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William d’Auberville, Knt., of Westenhanger (in Stanford), Halyrode, Oxney, and Stockbury, Kent, Benhall, Suffolk, etc. He was born about 1260 (minor in 1272, 1275, 1279, and 1280, of age in 1281). They had six sons, Nicholas, Knt., Robert, Thomas, Gilbert, William, and Simon. In 1271 Margery’s father, Gilbert Pecche, conveyed a messuage and two carucates of land in Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire and a carucate of land in Sarre, Kent to Nicholas and Margery his wife. On 16 Feb. 1272 the king granted Edward the king’s son the wardship of all the lands of Nicholas de Crioll [the elder], with the marriage of the heirs. In 1275 Edmund, Earl of Cornwall, sued Gilbert Peche in the Court of Common Pleas that he render to him custody of the land and heir of Nicholas Criol, which belonged to him. In 1279 Robert Codun sued Gilbert Peche, custodian of Nicholas de Kyryel son and heir of Margery [Joan intended?] de Kyryel, in the Court of Common Pleas that he warrant him the third part of one messuage, lands, and rent in Benhall, Suffolk. In 1280 the king granted Gregory de Rokesle, Mayor of London, all the issues arising from the custody of the lands late of Nicholas de Crioll, during the minority of Nicholas son and heir of the said Nicholas. In 1281 he conveyed half of the manor of Croham (in Croydon), Surrey to Roger de Northwode. The same year he appointed attorneys for one year in England, he then going beyond seas. He presented to the church of Westenhanger, Kent in 1282. In 1284 John, Archbishop of Canterbury, sued him in the Court of Common Pleas in a Kent plea regarding an agreement. In 1290 Geoffrey de Nevill sued Nicholas de Kyriel, whom Alan Gilling [?Culling]called to warranty, that he warrant to him 33 acres of land in Hinton, Cambridgeshire, and against the said Nicholas, whom Gilbert Pecche called to warranty, that he warrant to him two messuages, one mill, and lands in the same vill. The same year Nicholas conveyed the manor of Benhall, Suffolk to Guy Ferre the younger, together with the advowsons of the priories of Butley and Leyston. He served in the retinue of William de Leyburn in Flanders in 1297. In 1299 his step-mother, Margery de Kyriel, sued him regarding one third part of one messuage, wind mill, etc. in Croxton and one third part of a messuage, water mill, etc. in Worthington, Leicestershire as her dower. SIR NICHOLAS DE KYRIEL died 12 October 1303. His widow, Margery, was assigned dower 1 Jan. 1303/4. She married (2nd) by license dated 20 June 1304 RALPH [LE] SAUVAGE, Knt., Sheriff of Kent, 1321–2, and, in right of his wife, of Westenhanger, Kent. In 1303–4 Ralph le Sauvage and Margaret his wife conveyed the manor of Benhall, Suffolk to Guy Ferre, which manor was previously settled on Margery and her 1st husband, Nicholas de Kyriel, by his father at the time of their marriage. In 1306 Ralph Sauvage and Margery his wife sued Nicholas de Crioll and Stephen de Segrave in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the presentation to the church of Ightham, Kent. The same year Robert, Archbishop of Canterbury, sued Nicholas son of Nicholas Cryel, Robert and Thomas brothers of the said Nicholas, heirs of the said Nicholas de Cryel, and Ralph Sauvage and Margery his wife, custodian of the bodies and lands of Gilbert, William, and Simon, brothers and co-heirs of the said Nicholas, Robert, and Thomas, in the Court of Common Pleas that the said Ralph and Margery and the said Gilbert, William, and Simon warranty to him the third part of a moiety of the manor of Wrotham, Kent, which the said Ralph and Margery claimed as her dower. The same year Ralph and Margery his wife sued Master Henry de Northwode in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the third part of Littleho in Erith, Kent, which Margery claimed as her dower by the dotation of Nicholas de Cryol her former husband. In 1307 Ralph Sauvage, of Kent, owed Philip Bonaventure and Bindo Bonaventure his brother, merchants of Florence, a debt of 100s. SIR RALPH LE SAUVAGE presented to the church of Westenhanger,Kent in 1312, 1327, and 1328.

References:

Nichols, Hist. & Antiqs. of Leicester 2(1) (1795): 147 (Criol ped.). Hasted, Hist. & Top. Survey of Kent 5 (1798): 33–45. Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 1 (1807): 278–279 (sub Criol). Rotuli Hundredorum 2 (1818): 432 (Date: 1279–80: Nicholas de Criol, then a minor in the king’s custody, is stated to be the son of Nicholas de Kyriel [the elder],by Joan, daughter of William de Abrevile). Taylor, Index Monasticus (1821): 94 (Auberville-Pecche ped.). Willement, Heraldic Notices of Canterbury Cathedral (1827): 18–19 (Criol arms: Or, two chevrons and a quarter, gules), 76 (Criol arms: Or, two chevronels and a quarter, gules). Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum 6(2) (1830): 876–877. Curtis Top. Hist. of Leicester (1831): 49. Palgrave, Docs. & Recs. Ill. the Hist. of Scotland 1 (1837): 228. Banks Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 167 (sub Criol). Charles, Vis. of Huntingdon 1613 (Camden Soc. 43) (1849): 113–114 (Kryell ped.: “Nicolaus Kryell = Margareta, filia Gilb’ti Peche, militis.”). Planché, Corner of Kent (1864): 291–295, 300–302. Arch. Cantiana 11 (1877): 365, 367; 59 (1947): 91–92. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 50 (1889): 159. Elvin, Hist. of Walmer & Walmer Castle (1894): 45. C.P.R. 1292–1301 (1895): 78. Cotton, Hist. & Antiq. of the Church & Parish of St. Laurence, Thanet (1895): 171–176. East Anglian n.s. 6 (1895–6): 378. Genealogist 12 (1896): 112. C.P.R. 1301–1307 (1898): 236 (editor erroneously refers to a license granted in 1304 to Margery, widow of John Cryel; original document, however, actually calls her Margery, widow of Nicholas de Cryel). List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 67. Rye, Cal. Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 95, 108. C.P.R. 1272–1281 (1901): 378, 389, 400, 444. Copinger, County of Suffolk 1 (1904): 173. MSS of the Duke of Rutland 4 (Hist. MSS Comm. 24) (1905): 180. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 119. Year Books of Edward III: Year XIX 13 (Rolls Ser. 31b) (1906): 50–56. Lincolnshire Notes & Queries 9 (1907): 110–112. C.F.R. 3 (1912): 65, 79, 80, 182. VCH Surrey 4 (1912): 217–228. C.P.R. 1266–1272 (1913): 623, 624. C.P. 3 (1913): 542 (sub Criol). Arch. Cantiana 31 (1915): 84–91. Farrer, Feudal Cambridgeshire (1920): 83–84. Farnham, Leicestershire Medieval Village Notes 5 (1931): 133. Pubs. Bedfordshire Hist. Rec. Soc. 14 (1931): 83–84. Churchill, Cal. Kent Feet of Fines (Kent Recs. 15) (1956): 419. Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 11: 1–3 (sub Auberville). Brown, Eye Priory Cartulary & Charters 2 (Suffolk Charters 13) (1994): 61–62. VCH Cambridge 10 (2002): 106–109. Simpkin, English Aristocracy at War (2008): 174–175. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/10, image 3347d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no10/bCP40no10dorses/IMG_3347.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/30, image 904d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no30/bCP40no30dorses/IMG_0904.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/54, image 8283afr (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no54/CP40no54afr/IMG_8283.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/156, image 18f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no156/aCP40no156fronts/IMG_0018.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 16f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/aCP40no159fronts/IMG_0017.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 41f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/aCP40no159fronts/IMG_0041.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/159, image 608d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no159/CP40no159dorses/IMG_0608.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/217, image 94f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E2/CP40no217/aCP40no217fronts/IMG_0094.htm). Court of King’s Bench, KB27/201, image 116f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E2/KB27no201/aKB27no201fronts/IMG_0116.htm). National Archives, C 241/59/12; C 241/65/100; C 241/79/335 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

joseph cook

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Dec 2, 2020, 6:26:29 PM12/2/20
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On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:09:03 PM UTC-5, Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Dear Newsgroup ~
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> Complete Peerage 3 (1913): 542 (sub Criol) includes the following information regarding Nicholas de Crioll (died 1303) and his wife, Margery Pecche:
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Douglas,
We appreciate these posts and discoveries, but would greatly appreciate if you were a little more responsive to any comments/corrections/additions/questions made on your posts. It sometimes feels like your posts are "drop and run", and not the start of what could be a more collaborative solution, mutually beneficial. Reference the post before this one.

--Joe C

Hans Vogels

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Dec 3, 2020, 3:06:52 AM12/3/20
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Op donderdag 3 december 2020 om 00:26:29 UTC+1 schreef joe...@gmail.com:
Hello Joe,

Maybe the 'drop and runs' are meant as a way of stirring up the anthill of knowledge in the hope that something turns up benificial to his research ;-), usefull for in a new publication or update of his.

Hans Vogels
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