GIFFARD and VAUX
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m. Eleanor VAUX d/o William VAUX, Esq.
Who was William VAUX and does he have a proven line?
Thank you for any help :) Maggie von Kempf - mvon...@aol.com
ED MANN
>
> Thomas GIFFARD, Esq. b. 1408 in Fringford Co. Oxford
> m. Eleanor VAUX d/o William VAUX, Esq.
>
> Who was William VAUX and does he have a proven line?
Direct Descendants of Robert de Vallibus
1 Robert de Vallibus aka: Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
2 William de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
3 Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
4 Sir Oliver de Vaux d: Aft. 1244 ref #: BPci:2203
+Petronilla ref #: BPci:2203
5 Roger de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
6 Elias de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
+Elizabeth ref #: BPci:2203
7 William Vaux d: Bef. 1373 ref #: BPci:2203
+Joan ref #: BPci:2203
8 William Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
+Joan Thirning ref #: BPci:2203
9 William Vaux d: 1405 ref #: (Ä43-33)
+Eleanor Drakelowe ref #: BPci:2203
10 Eleanor Vaux b: Abt. 1410 ref #: (Ä43-33)
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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
Π= Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]
G . EDWARD ALLEN
>
> Thomas GIFFARD, Esq. b. 1408 in Fringford Co. Oxford
> m. Eleanor VAUX d/o William VAUX, Esq.
>
> Who was William VAUX and does he have a proven line?
>
You are of course referring to Thomas Gifford pf Twyford, Bucks.
ancestor to Sargent and Alice Freeman Tompson Park.
1. Eleanor Vaux of Harrowden, Northants.; b. ca 1405.
2. William Vaux, Esq. of Harrowden and Bottisham, Cambridgeshire; d.
1405; md. before 1399.
3. Eleanor Drakelowe of Wileby, NoHants.; b. ca. 1370;d. 1445/54.
4. William Vaux of Bottisham; living 1373-1381; perhaps did not die
until winter 1400/01.
5. [?Joan], sister of }ir Wm. Thirning of Lathbury, Bucks. and
Harrowden, Northants.
6. Sir Thomas Drakelowe of Wileby; killed before 26 March 1378.
8. William Vaux.
9. Joan. I have always wondered if Moriarty doubled up on 4 & 5.
There is further, but he is not sure which son of Robert Vaux is the
father of Wm. 8.
10. John Thirning of Little Harrowden; d. after 1331.
11. Joan.
12. Thomas Drakelowe; d. after 1369; md. after 1346.
13. Alice de Wileby of Wileby, NoHants.
20. William Thirning of Little Harrowden; d. after 1310.
21. Matilda.
26. Robert de Wileby.
27. Emma.
Sources: "The Early pedigree of Vaux of Harrowden and the Marriage of
Thomas Gifford and Eleanora Vaux." G. Andrews Moriarty. Miscellanea
Genealogica et Heraldica 5th Series, vol. 4:102 et seq.
"Uhe Origin of the Family of Vaux of Harrowden." G. Andrews Moriarty.
Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica 5th Series, vol. 5:279 etseq.
More can be found in the VCHs for Bucks., NoHants., and Cambridge.
Kay Allen AG all...@pacbell.net
40. William Thirning of Little harrowden; d. after 1280.
41. Alice.
G . EDWARD ALLEN
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> MVon...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Thomas GIFFARD, Esq. b. 1408 in Fringford Co. Oxford
> > m. Eleanor VAUX d/o William VAUX, Esq.
> >
> > Who was William VAUX and does he have a proven line?
>
>
> 1 Robert de Vallibus aka: Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 2 William de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 3 Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 4 Sir Oliver de Vaux d: Aft. 1244 ref #: BPci:2203
> +Petronilla ref #: BPci:2203
> 5 Roger de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
I see that flakin' Burke's Peerage strikes again. I really do not think
that this will fly! Kay Allen AG see previous post for better sources.
David Collyer
Many thanks for the De VAUX info. However, I wonder where the connection
lies between this mob and......
Beatrice De VAUX (c.1149 - 24 Mar 1217) m.c.1174 William De BRIWERE.
I have no forebears for her as yet.
Thanks
David in Ballarat, Australia
>Direct Descendants of Robert de Vallibus
>
> 1 Robert de Vallibus aka: Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 2 William de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 3 Robert de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
> 4 Sir Oliver de Vaux d: Aft. 1244 ref #: BPci:2203
> +Petronilla ref #: BPci:2203
> 5 Roger de Vaux ref #: BPci:2203
ED MANN
>
> Dear Ed,
>
> Many thanks for the De VAUX info. However, I wonder where the connection
> lies between this mob and......
> Beatrice De VAUX (c.1149 - 24 Mar 1217) m.c.1174 William De BRIWERE.
>
> I have no forebears for her as yet.
Me either.
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