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wjhonson

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May 18, 2010, 5:45:18 AM5/18/10
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I noticed that Leo doesn't have anything on the ancestry of Bette
Davis, so I started an article here

http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/ancestry-of-bette-davis-actress/4hmquk6fx4gu/503

Anyone who wants, can chime in. I haven't yet sourced all the
connections stated there, and there is one that is a bit odd and may
need to be thrown out. That is the idea that "Harriet Eugenia
Thompson" wife of William A Favor is a daughter of some Charles Otis
Thompson by some Harriet Jane Bailey.

I know it's repeated in dozens of sites, but so far I haven't seen the
actual evidence for that connection, that is who her parents were.

Will Johnson

pj.evans

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May 19, 2010, 12:48:08 AM5/19/10
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On May 18, 2:45 am, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> I noticed that Leo doesn't have anything on the ancestry of Bette
> Davis, so I started an article here
>
> http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/ancestry-of-bette-davis-actress...

>
> Anyone who wants, can chime in.  I haven't yet sourced all the
> connections stated there, and there is one that is a bit odd and may
> need to be thrown out.  That is the idea that "Harriet Eugenia
> Thompson" wife of William A Favor is a daughter of some Charles Otis
> Thompson by some Harriet Jane Bailey.
>
> I know it's repeated in dozens of sites, but so far I haven't seen the
> actual evidence for that connection, that is who her parents were.
>
> Will Johnson

The 1860 and 1870 censuses of Lowell, MA, have a Harriet E Thompson
living with a Harriet A Thompson, who is, judging by her age, the
grandmother of Harriet E.The 1850 census has Harriet A with a 19-year-
old John E Thompson, who is probably her son.

1870: Lowell Ward 4, Middlesex, Massachusetts; Roll M593_628; Page:
167B; Image: 339; Family History Library Film: 552127.
1860: Lowell Ward 4, Middlesex, Massachusetts; Roll M653_507; Page:
628; Image: 632; Family History Library Film: 803507.
1850: Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts; Roll M432_327; Page: 490A;
Image: 594.

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Moody M. Thompson

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Harriet A. Keyes

2 Nov 1827

Lowell

Middlesex


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joseph cook

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May 19, 2010, 6:35:17 AM5/19/10
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On May 18, 5:45 am, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> I noticed that Leo doesn't have anything on the ancestry of Bette
> Davis, so I started an article here
>
> http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/ancestry-of-bette-davis-actress...

>
> Anyone who wants, can chime in.  I haven't yet sourced all the
> connections stated there, and there is one that is a bit odd and may
> need to be thrown out.  That is the idea that "Harriet Eugenia
> Thompson" wife of William A Favor is a daughter of some Charles Otis
> Thompson by some Harriet Jane Bailey.

Will,
Don't know if you are still fuming at me or not, but here's some
input:

4. Edward Elwood Davis married Eliza Jane Morrell 23 Sep 1882 in
Glocester, Providence, Rhode Island. Marriage Record gives parents as
Calvin H. Davis and Anne P. Matthews. Brides parents listed: Alex H.
Morrell Eliza Leavey <sic>. Bride's birthplace: Phillips, Franklin,
Maine. Groom's birthplace: New Hampton, Belknap, New Hampshire (Age
28)

joseph cook

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May 19, 2010, 6:52:01 AM5/19/10
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> Will,
> Don't know if you are still fuming at me or not, but here's some
> input:
>
> 4. Edward Elwood Davis married Eliza Jane Morrell 23 Sep 1882 in
> Glocester, Providence, Rhode Island.  Marriage Record gives parents as
> Calvin H. Davis and Anne P. Matthews.  Brides parents listed: Alex H.
> Morrell Eliza Leavey <sic>.   Bride's birthplace: Phillips, Franklin,
> Maine.  Groom's birthplace: New Hampton, Belknap, New Hampshire (Age
> 28)

Edward Elmwood Davis born 10 Mar 1854 WATERVILLE,KENNEBEC,MAINE to
Calvin H. Davis. * Index to Maine Births and Christenings as indexed
by Church of Latter Day Saints.

Calvin H. Davis married to Ann P. Matthews 12 Aug 1851 Meredith, New
Hampshire or July 12, 1851 Waterville,Kennebec,Maine (Recorded at
both locations)

1860 Census Calvin Davis is in Waterville, Maine with his wife as
"Agent for Sale of Books" age 33 (b.c. 1826/7)

1850 census, (before marriage) Calvin and Ann are living in the
household of Moses&Caroline Smart in Whitestown, Oneida, New York.
Both Moses and Calvin are "Teacher". That has to be an interesting
story..

joseph cook

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May 19, 2010, 7:21:28 AM5/19/10
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Last one to tie it to Medieval Genealogy...

Jacob G. Favor's wife, Augusta, died a resident of Ocean Park Maine
Oct 16, 1914. Her original Death Certificate lists her maiden name as
"Freeman" born March 31, 1832 Prospect Park, Maine

Jacob G. Favor's marriage transcribed in Maine Marriage index as :
Jacob G. Favor, 23 married Augusta Freeman, 22 01 May 1854 in Lowell,
Mass. Cutting and Hannah Favor Parents, and Peletiah and Mary
Freeman parents.

Peletiah Freeman 1870 Census Prospect, Maine is a farmer, 63 years
old.
1850 Peltiah is "stone cutter" in census in Prospect, Waldo, Maine.
Wife mary is 37 y.o.

Cutting and Hannah married 04 Jun 1826 Belknap, New Hampshire *New
Hampshire Marriages 1720-1920 Indexed and Transcribed by Church of
Latter Day Saints.

Cutting Favor is claimed descent as follows (by random unsourced
internet garbage)
:
1. Cutting Favor
2. Aaron Favor and Ruth Sanborn
3. Theopolis Sanborn m. Mary Sleeper
4. Daniel Sanborn m. Anna Tilton
5. Abraham Sanborn m. Dorothy Smith
6. Thopolis Smith m. Mary Stanyan
7. John Stanyan m. Mary Bradbury
8. Thoms Bradbury m. Mary Perkins

If memory serves, Thomas is an Edward I descendant.

Joe Cook

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lma...@att.net

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May 19, 2010, 12:35:58 PM5/19/10
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wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:

>Through her shared descent from Samuel Whiting (1597-1679) and Elizabeth St John (1605-77), Bette Davis >is a cousin of Senator John Kerry, and also a cousin of US President Calvin Coolidge. Through her shared >descent from Oliver St John (d. 1582) and his wife Agnes Fisher (b 1526/8), Bette Davis is a cousin of Sarah >Ferguson, Duchess of York, of actor Cary Elwes and of Diana, Princess of Wales. Through her shared >descent from Edward Bulkeley and Olive Irby, she is a cousin of George W Bush.


------------- The line does not go through Oliver St. John married to
Agnes Fisher.
Thats a different St. John family.
Heres part of the correct line, according to Richardson's Magna Carta
Ancestry:

John Saint John = Sibyl ferch Morgan ap Jenkin
Alexander Saint John = Jane (Dalison) Leventhorp
Henry Saint John = Jane Neale
Oliver Saint John = Sarah Bulkeley
Elizabeth Saint John = Rev. Samuel Whiting

Since Bette Davis descends from the couple James Davis & Cecily
Thayer,
she is also related to other Presidents, outlined in Gary Roberts,
Ancestors
of American Presidents.

Leslie

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May 20, 2010, 4:37:07 AM5/20/10
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Thanks Joe for the updates on Bette's ancestry. There is a perhaps slightly better source for the marriage of Calvin Davis to Anne Matthews and the births of their children. That is Batch M503262 (marriages) and Batch C503261 (births) which claims to be Vital records from the town clerk.

I'm suspicious however of exactly what this is or isn't, because Edward E Davis is consistent about saying that he was born in New Hampshire, and even his obit states this.
I think it's likely the family moved about quite a bit in the first few years and so had children in various New England states, and *then* settled in Waterville where they evidently re-recorded the births of their children later.

Will


Leo

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May 20, 2010, 8:20:56 AM5/20/10
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Dear Leslie,
I cannot reply using your message, I haven't worked out why.

You quote Richardson's Magna Carta

1.John Saint John=Sibyl ferch Morgan ap Jenkin
2.Alexander Saint John=Jane (Dalison) Leventhorp
3.Henry Saint John=Jane Neale
4.Oliver Saint John=Sarah Bulkeley
5.Elizabeth Saint John=Rev.Samuel Whiting

Generations 4 and 5 are in Ancestral Roots by Weis, and generations 4 is identical in Joseph Foster's book. Generation 4 is also in Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2515 but Sarah Bulkeley is called Sarah Buckley

Generation 3. Henry Saint John is called Thomas by Joseph Foster and also by Burke's Peerage 1999 page 2515.
In BP Thomas is not given a wife, but Thomas here is given as parents

Generation 2. Oliver Saint John, 1st Baron Saint John of Bletsho married to Agnes Fisher

BP removes your generation 1 and your gen.1 are turned into the grandparents of Oliver St.John generation 2.

Are there other sources who can establish the correct order?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Douglas Richardson

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May 21, 2010, 12:36:44 AM5/21/10
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On May 19, 10:35 am, lmah...@att.net wrote:

< Since Bette Davis descends from the couple James Davis & Cecily
< Thayer,
< she is also related to other Presidents, outlined in Gary Roberts,
< Ancestors
< of American Presidents.
<
< Leslie

I have four descents from James Davis and Cecily Thayer, and three
more Thayer descents from Cecily Thayer's cousins, Richard and Thomas
Thayer. I also descend from James Davis' brother.

DR

wjhonson

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May 21, 2010, 10:50:19 PM5/21/10
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As I stated, I've updated my article to point-out the oddity of
Harriet Jane Bailey appearing in Iowa *after* she had supposedly
already been married and had a child, which which child stayed behind
in Massachusetts.

However I've now found, in a round-about fashion, that there *is* an
apparently reasonable source for this marriage and child as follows

http://www.archive.org/stream/baileygenealogyj00bail/baileygenealogyj00bail_djvu.txt
"The Bailey Genealogy: James, John, and Thomas, and Their
Descendants", by Mollis R Bailey. The Citizen Company of Somerville
1899, reprint Parker River Researchers 1980. Online at Archive.org
Page 254
"Harriet Jane Bailey born August 9, 1837, was the daughter of Benjamin
Bailey and his wife Latta Hopkins Fletcher Bailey. She married at
Lowell, Mass., Charles O Thompson, January 9, 1852. She died June 21,
1857. Children: Eugenia born 1853, married a Mr Favor; resides in
Lowell"

Those trying to find Harriet's death record in Lowell might instead
try looking in Makee, Iowa perhaps. I wonder if there isn't more to
this story? Divorce? Abandonment? Court fight perhaps? Might be an
interesting addition to Bette's ancestry to find a scandal like we've
found with Elizabeth Taylor's prostitute ancestress.

pj.evans

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May 21, 2010, 11:00:35 PM5/21/10
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On May 21, 7:50 pm, wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> As I stated, I've updated my article to point-out the oddity of
> Harriet Jane Bailey appearing in Iowa *after* she had supposedly
> already been married and had a child, which which child stayed behind
> in Massachusetts.
>
> However I've now found, in a round-about fashion, that there *is* an
> apparently reasonable source for this marriage and child as follows
>
> http://www.archive.org/stream/baileygenealogyj00bail/baileygenealogyj...

> "The Bailey Genealogy: James, John, and Thomas, and Their
> Descendants", by Mollis R Bailey.  The Citizen Company of Somerville
> 1899, reprint Parker River Researchers 1980.  Online at Archive.org
> Page 254
> "Harriet Jane Bailey born August 9, 1837, was the daughter of Benjamin
> Bailey and his wife Latta Hopkins Fletcher Bailey.  She married at
> Lowell, Mass., Charles O Thompson, January 9, 1852.  She died June 21,
> 1857.  Children: Eugenia born 1853, married a Mr Favor; resides in
> Lowell"
>
> Those trying to find Harriet's death record in Lowell might instead
> try looking in Makee, Iowa perhaps.  I wonder if there isn't more to
> this story?  Divorce? Abandonment?  Court fight perhaps?  Might be an
> interesting addition to Bette's ancestry to find a scandal like we've
> found with Elizabeth Taylor's prostitute ancestress.

The Allamakee county cemetery records give the year as 1856, and her
age as 20 years; the grave is Lot 41 of Oakland main cemetery.
Whether this is the correct person is another question, since there's
not enough other information in the cemetery records to be sure it's
the same person. (There are other Thompsons in that cemetery.)

Wayne Johnson

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Aug 25, 2023, 11:33:31 AM8/25/23
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Bette Davis is in my family tree. I can assure you that she is a Mayflower descendant. This is how she is related to me: Ruth Elizabeth "Bette" Davis - Actress - "Hollywood Royalty" 1908-1989
6th cousin 2x removed
Harlow Morrell Davis 1885-1938
Father of Ruth Elizabeth "Bette" Davis - Actress - "Hollywood Royalty"
Edward Elwell Davis 1854-1905
Father of Harlow Morrell Davis
Calvin Harlow Davis 1827-1895
Father of Edward Elwell Davis
Abigail Stevens 1798-1870
Mother of Calvin Harlow Davis
Simon Stevens - 3rd Grandfather of Actress Bette Davis 1755-1825
Father of Abigail Stevens
Otho Stevens - 4th Grandfather of Actress Bette Davis 1726-1759
Father of Simon Stevens - 3rd Grandfather of Actress Bette Davis
Ensign Otho Stevens - 5th Grandfather of Bette Davis 1702-1771
Father of Otho Stevens - 4th Grandfather of Actress Bette Davis




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Bruce Fogwell

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Aug 26, 2023, 9:05:16 AM8/26/23
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How is she a Mayflower descendant? I don't see any path in this tread.
Thanks in advance.

Darrell E. Larocque

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Aug 27, 2023, 10:45:41 AM8/27/23
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Bruce,

It looks like it is through William Brewster.

1. Harlow Morrell Davis (1885-1938)
2. Harlow is the son of Eliza Jane (Morrell) Davis
3. Eliza is the daughter of Eliza (Seavey) Morrell
4. Eliza is the daughter of Kezia (Hinckley) Seavey
5. Kezia is the daughter of Josiah Hinckley (1742-1811)
6. Josiah is the son of Samuel Hinckley III (1711-1767)
7. Samuel is the son of Mary (Freeman) Hinckley (1687-aft.1757)
8. Mary is the daughter of Edmund Freeman (1657-1719)
9. Edmund is the son of Mercy (Prence) Freeman (bef.1631-1711)
10. Mercy is the daughter of Patience (Brewster) Prence (abt.1600-bef.1634)
11. Patience is the daughter of William Brewster (abt.1566-1644)

Darrell E. Larocque
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Leslie Mahler

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Aug 28, 2023, 5:37:29 PM8/28/23
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On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 2:01:33 PM UTC-7, Olivier wrote:
> Thomas of Brotherton, Duke of Norfolk 1300-1338
> &1316 Alice de Hayles de Harwich 1302-ca 1327
> |
> Margaret Plantagenêt ca 1322-1399
> &1338 John, lord Segrave †1353
> |
> Elizabeth Segrave 1338-/1368
> & John Mowbray 1340-1368
> |
> Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk 1366-1399
> &1384 Elizabeth Fitzalan 1366-1425
> |
> Isabel Mowbray ca 1396-1452
> &1423 James de, Baron Berkeley ca 1394-1463
> |
> Maurice de, Baron Berkeley 1441-1506
> &1465 Isabel Mead ca 1444-1514
> |
> Anne Berkeley 1494-1586
> & William Dennys 1470-1533
> |
> Isabel Dennis 1509-1572
> &1531 John Berkeley ca 1506-1545
> |
> Richard Berkeley ca 1531-ca 1605
> & Elizabeth Reade
> |
> Elizabeth Berkeley †
> & Thomas Throckmorton 1525-1607
> |
> Hannah Throckmorton 1570-1664
> &1586 Isaac Johnson 1550-1643


"There is NO primary or secondary evidence that links either Mary Johnson, wife of Rev. Joseph Peaslee
or John Johnson, the immigrant to Roxbury, Mass., New England to this couple.
(NEHGR 146:261-78, Great Migration Begins, 1105-1110.)"
from:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Throckmorton-921#Sources

Leslie


> Mary Johnson 1604-1694
> &1646 Joseph Peaslee 1600-1660
> |
> Jane Peaslee 1627-1684
> &1646 John Davis 1621-1694
> |
> James Davis 1662-1749
> &1688 Elizabeth Chesley 1669-1748
> |
> Samuel Davis 1692-1789
> &ca 1715 Martha Chesley 1692-1789
> |
> Thomas Davis 1732-
> & Elizabeth Roberts 1736-
> |
> Stephen Davis 1762-
> & Mary Boynton
> |
> Mark Davis 1796-1869
> &1822 Abigail Stevens 1798-1870
> |
> Calvin Harlow Davis 1827-1876
> &1851 Ann P. Mathews 1831-
> |
> Edward Elwell Davis 1854-1905
> & Eliza Jane Morrell ca 1856-1906
> |
> Harlow Morrell Davis 1885-1938
> &1907 Ruth Augusta Favor 1885-1961
> |
> Ruth Elizabeth Davis 1908-1989

Will Johnson

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Aug 28, 2023, 6:22:17 PM8/28/23
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Even stronger argument
John /Johnson/ of Pinchbeck, co Linc; of Ayscoughfee Hall, Spalding, co Linc (purchased)
heir of his father
Will dated 4 Feb 1666/7, proved at Lincoln 1667
bur 10 Mar 1666/1667 Spalding, co Linc
married firstly to Jane /Ogle/
heiress of her father
bap 23 May 1596 Pinchbeck, co Linc

She was LIVING in 1638, the year her HEIR was born
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0rd4Z9NkXlLp8J_MX0&id=aPcMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR1#PPA731,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=AqRCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1270#v=onepage&q&f=false

So clearly John Johnson and Hannah could not have married 35 years earlier

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Darrell E. Larocque

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Aug 29, 2023, 4:21:57 PM8/29/23
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Thank you Leslie and Will for clearing up this unsourced line... I am a descendant of John Davis and Jane Peaslee and I have never heard of this Johnson line before at all, and nobody knows for sure if either Mary Johnson OR Jane Severance was the mother of Jane.

That being said, Bette Davis does have a well sourced royal and noble ancestry through the immigrant Lieutenant John Samborne, know in America as Sanborne or Sanborn. This line is accepted and well sourced through the following reference:

Clifford L. Stott, FASG, "The English Ancestry and Royal Descent of John, Stephen, and William Sanborn/Samborne of Hampton, New Hampshire," The American Genealogist, 92 (2021/2022):1-16 (to be continued).

1. Ruth is the daughter of Ruth Augusta (Favor) Davis (1886-1961)
2. Ruth is the daughter of William Aaron Favor (1854-1911)
3. William is the son of Jacob Gordon Favor (1830-1899)
4. Jacob is the son of Cutting Favor III (1806-1881)
5. Cutting is the son of Ruth (Sanborn) Favor (1786-1879)
6. Ruth is the daughter of Theophilus Sanborn (1753-1839)
7. Theophilus is the son of Daniel Sanborn (1728-1812)
8. Daniel is the son of Abraham Sanborn (1696-1757)
9. Abraham is the son of Joseph Sanborn (1659-bef.1727)
10. Joseph is the son of John Samborne (bef.1619-1692)

Darrell

Olivier

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Aug 30, 2023, 8:04:46 AM8/30/23
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Richard Samborne 1580
& Ann Bachiler 1598..1600
|
William Sanborn †1692
& Mary Moulton †1686
|
Mehitable Sanborn
&1669 Daniel Tilton
|
Abigail Tilton 1670-1759
&1689 Christopher Page 1670-1751
|
Shubael Page 1707-1791
& Hannah Dow †1796
|
Mary Page 1736-1778
& Christopher Smith 1736-1814
|
John Smith 1760-1842
& Martha Drake 1767-1841
|
John Smith 1792-1866
& Mary Mudgett 1797-1869
|
Mary Smith 1823-1908
&1843 Jacob Lee Merrill 1818-1889
|
George David Merrill 1861-1924
&1883 Mary Bird 1862-1925
|
Gertrude May Merrill 1887-1938
&1907 Frederick George Sanders 1873-1944
|
Doris Sanders 1920-2011
&1941 Gordon Markle 1918-1982
|
Thomas Markle 1944
&1979 Doria Ragland 1956
|
Meghan Markle 1981
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