Browne
Michael Welch
married Alice Swineshead dau of William Swineshead. He lived also in
Rutland where his son John Browne Married Isabel Sharpe. Thank you for
any reply
Todd A. Farmerie
John Browne, Mayor of London was recently mentioned in the "sir Edward
Belknap" thread. However, the information that I have regarding him
differs significantly from what you have (in fact being similar only in
name, but differing in terms of wife, and place of origin). I have to
wonder if a source hasn't mistakenly identified a Rutland man with an
unrelated London Mayor of the same name. What is the source for your
iformation?
taf
MrSandmich
evidence linking Anne Belwood, wife of Sir John Browne (and sister of Thomas
Belwood aka Belknap) to the family of Sir Hamon Belknap. Has this relationship
been determined yet? One thing that catches my eye is that John Belknap was
involved in a legal transaction with Sir Mathew Browne of Betwchworth. While
evidence is inconclusive, visitation records list Sir John Browne (husband of
Anne Belwood) as being a son of Sir Thomas Browne (of Bechworth) by wife Mary
Metcalfe. The line is listed as follows:
Sir Thomas Browne md. Eleanor Fitzalan
Sir Robert Browne md. Mary Malet
Sir Thomas Browne md. Mary Metcalf
Sir John Browne md. Anne Belwood
Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
The above line needs a considerable amount of research. However, this
Belknap-Browne transaction, and Belwood (aka Belknap) -Browne marriage, may
provide a clue. What should be interesting to many Americans is that Sir John
Browne and wife Anne Belwood appear to be ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch. Using
visitation records (nor currently at my disposal) here is what I have managed
to put together.
1. John Browne md. Anne Belwood
2. Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
3. John Browne md. Christian Carkyke
4. Anne Browne md. John Hall (of Bishopsgate, London)
5. Alice Hall md. Daniel Gorsuch
6. Rev. John Gorsuch md. Anne Lovelace
As is well known, Anne Lovelace is a Gateway ancestor of royal descent.
However, it know looks as though her husband John Gorsuch may also share a
similar pedigree. I know this is a preliminary outline. Anyone have any
thoughts on this line?
Regards,
Todd A. Johnson
Adrian Channing
> Looking for any information on Sir John Browne Mayor of London in 1480
> married Alice Swineshead dau of William Swineshead. He lived also in
> Rutland where his son John Browne Married Isabel Sharpe. Thank you for
> any reply
>
>
There are a number sources which gives the above marriage as Sir John
Browne's first marriage, sometimes Alice and others Jane Swineshed, but
there is nothing in his will to support a previous marriage to Anne
Belwood. I think you mean a son Robert who married Isabel Sharp, at least
that is what I have seen, again there is no evidence of a son Robert (or
John) in either Sir John Browne's Will, or Anne Belwood's Will or for that
matter in the Will of their son William Browne, nor any mention of any
Sharps.
I have also seen it claimed that Sir John came from Oakeham, Rutlandshire,
but again from his will, it is probable he came from Northumberland. He
makes a bequest to his poor kinfolk in Northumberland, to the church of
Lowick, Northumberland and cousins "a Werks" (with many other cousins
named) which I have identified as coming from Wark-on-Tweed of the same
county. (I suspect that Sir John Browne was connected with the Stephen
Browne who was Mayor of London in 1438 and 1448, but I have no proof. Many
of the Mayors of London have family ties with one-another, and Stephen
Browne dose make a bequest to St Nicholas' Church (now the cathedral),
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, indicating he to may have come from up north)
The Robert Browne was Chamberlain of the exchequer and/or Auditor of the
Duchy of Lancaster and per Essex visitations m Isabel d of Sir John Sharp,
and was ancestor of the Browne's of Walcot, Northamptonshire. Pym
Yateman's "Brownes of Bechworth Castle" argues that he was probably from
the same family as the Browne's of Betchworth, near Dorking, Surrey (who
themselves were from the same family as the Viscount Montagues)
At the Society of Genealogist, London, someone has deposited a hand written
tree with the two marriages of Sir John Brown. This document is difficult
to read, but it sites Stow as the authority of the marriage to Jane
Swineshed and gives a ref which I think is 618 f 233, and the ref for
Robert being their son is Harlian m S.S.1541, again difficult to read.
regards,
Adrian (Surrey, UK) ACha...@CompuServe.Com
Todd A. Farmerie
>
> I have become very interested in this thread. In particular, I am interested in
> evidence linking Anne Belwood, wife of Sir John Browne (and sister of Thomas
> Belwood aka Belknap) to the family of Sir Hamon Belknap. Has this relationship
> been determined yet?
I think it is at the level of speculation based solely on a common
surname.
> One thing that catches my eye is that John Belknap was
> involved in a legal transaction with Sir Mathew Browne of Betwchworth.
In which county is this Betchworth?
> While
> evidence is inconclusive, visitation records list Sir John Browne (husband of
> Anne Belwood) as being a son of Sir Thomas Browne (of Bechworth) by wife Mary
> Metcalfe.
Which visitation?
> The line is listed as follows:
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Eleanor Fitzalan
> Sir Robert Browne md. Mary Malet
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Mary Metcalf
> Sir John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
I have seen a similar line attemting to connect Mayflower passenger
Peter Brown with royalty, but it is faulty. I wonder what the basis for
this is?
> The above line needs a considerable amount of research. However, this
> Belknap-Browne transaction, and Belwood (aka Belknap) -Browne marriage, may
> provide a clue. What should be interesting to many Americans is that Sir John
> Browne and wife Anne Belwood appear to be ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch. Using
> visitation records (nor currently at my disposal) here is what I have managed
> to put together.
> 1. John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> 2. Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
> 3. John Browne md. Christian Carkyke
> 4. Anne Browne md. John Hall (of Bishopsgate, London)
> 5. Alice Hall md. Daniel Gorsuch
> 6. Rev. John Gorsuch md. Anne Lovelace
Curious. A similar line can be compiled for immigrant Oliver Manwaring,
but there is one generation in that line which has serious problems.
taf
John Steele Gordon
> I have become very interested in this thread. In particular, I am interested in
> evidence linking Anne Belwood, wife of Sir John Browne (and sister of Thomas
> Belwood aka Belknap) to the family of Sir Hamon Belknap. Has this relationship
> been determined yet? One thing that catches my eye is that John Belknap was
> involved in a legal transaction with Sir Mathew Browne of Betwchworth. While
> evidence is inconclusive, visitation records list Sir John Browne (husband of
> Anne Belwood) as being a son of Sir Thomas Browne (of Bechworth) by wife Mary
> Metcalfe. The line is listed as follows:
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Eleanor Fitzalan
> Sir Robert Browne md. Mary Malet
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Mary Metcalf
> Sir John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
I believe that John Browne who married Anne Belwood, was a son of a John Browne who
is said to have lived at Oakham in County Rutland. Anne Belwood's ancestry is, I
believe, unknown.
> The above line needs a considerable amount of research. However, this
> Belknap-Browne transaction, and Belwood (aka Belknap) -Browne marriage, may
> provide a clue. What should be interesting to many Americans is that Sir John
> Browne and wife Anne Belwood appear to be ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch.
They are indeed.
> Using
> visitation records (nor currently at my disposal) here is what I have managed
> to put together.
> 1. John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> 2. Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
> 3. John Browne md. Christian Carkyke
> 4. Anne Browne md. John Hall (of Bishopsgate, London)
John Hall, Lord Mayor of London, was married to Jane Browne, not Anne Browne..
> 5. Alice Hall md. Daniel Gorsuch
> 6. Rev. John Gorsuch md. Anne Lovelace
>
> As is well known, Anne Lovelace is a Gateway ancestor of royal descent.
> However, it know looks as though her husband John Gorsuch may also share a
> similar pedigree. I know this is a preliminary outline. Anyone have any
> thoughts on this line?
When Brice Clagett's "Seven Centuries," the ancestors of his children for twenty
generations, comes out, hopefully by the end of the year, it will deal with this
line. It will, I am sure, deal fully with what is known, what is likely, and what
is rubbish.
John Steele Gordon
Adrian Channing
Todd A. Johnson wrote
> I have become very interested in this thread. In particular, I am
interested in
> evidence linking Anne Belwood, wife of Sir John Browne (and sister of
Thomas
> Belwood aka Belknap) to the family of Sir Hamon Belknap. Has this
relationship
> been determined yet? One thing that catches my eye is that John Belknap
was
> involved in a legal transaction with Sir Mathew Browne of Betwchworth.
I guess you mean the sale of Bardinden manor, or was there something else.
There is a problem with dates here John Belknap died before 1485, while Sir
Mathew Browne of Betchworth was born in 1473, so not of age by 1485. John
sold Bardinden in c1422 to someone called Engham and temp Henry VIII it was
sold to Sir Mathew Browne.
While
> evidence is inconclusive, visitation records list Sir John Browne
(husband of
> Anne Belwood) as being a son of Sir Thomas Browne (of Bechworth) by wife
Mary
> Metcalfe. The line is listed as follows:
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Eleanor Fitzalan
> Sir Robert Browne md. Mary Malet
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Mary Metcalf
> Sir John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
>
This is as per the pedigree at the Society of Genealogist, London just
mentioned in my last post.
Sir George Browne of Betchworth (beheaded 1483) father of Sir Mathew Browne
of Betchworth, and Sir Anthony Browne ancestor of the Viscount Montague
family are shown as brothers of the Sir Robert Browne who m Mary Malet.
There is no doubt that the father of Sir George and of Anthony was a Sir
Thomas Browne (-1460 executed) of Eygthorne, Kent; Betchworth Castle &c.
and that their mother was Eleanor dau and heir of Sir Thomas Fitzalan of
Betchworth, (She m2 Thomas Vaughn) however the book I also quoted in my
last message (The Brownes of Bechworth Castle by John Pym Yateman 1903)
shows that the age gap between Sir Robert and theses two brothers make it
impossible that they had had the same mother, and unlikely to have had the
same father.
David Faris in his Plantagenet Ancestry of the Seventeenth-Century
Colonists has ignored Pym Yateman's arguments and shows Robert Browne, wife
of Mary Mallet as son of Sir Thomas and Alianor (elsewhere Faris has used
Pym Yateman as a source, but not here) Faris quotes the pedigree prepared
in 1585 by Walter Browne g-son of Sir George Browne of Betchworth, as well
as referring to Kemp and Paget. Pym Yateman (who is not without faults)
also quotes this pedigree, (and includes a copy thereof, but v difficult to
read) which gives this brother Robert who left a dau and heiress Elenor.
He then says, whilst it was another writer who states Robert was a knight,
that he m Mary d of Sir William Mallet and had a son, Sir Thomas who m Mary
Metcalf. This statement, per Pym Yateman, was included in the Kent
Heraldic Visitation, but the editor had stated it should accepted with
caution.
> The above line needs a considerable amount of research. However, this
> Belknap-Browne transaction, and Belwood (aka Belknap) -Browne marriage,
may
> provide a clue. What should be interesting to many Americans is that Sir
John
> Browne and wife Anne Belwood appear to be ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch.
Using
> visitation records (nor currently at my disposal) here is what I have
managed
> to put together.
> 1. John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> 2. Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
> 3. John Browne md. Christian Carkyke
> 4. Anne Browne md. John Hall (of Bishopsgate, London)
I agree thus far, (I have John Hall of London per the Will of her father)
but don't know about Anne Browne's issue
> 5. Alice Hall md. Daniel Gorsuch
> 6. Rev. John Gorsuch md. Anne Lovelace
>
> As is well known, Anne Lovelace is a Gateway ancestor of royal descent.
> However, it know looks as though her husband John Gorsuch may also share
a
> similar pedigree. I know this is a preliminary outline. Anyone have any
> thoughts on this line?
>
-
>
Regards
Adrian (Surrey, UK) ACha...@CompuServe.Com
Michael Welch
John Browne was suppose to be the son of John Browne. As to Alice or Jane
Swineshed she was his first wife. The way I come through this line is
through Olive Welby through the Bulkeleys maternal G-Grandmother Olive
Browne who married Cuthebert Overton or as his name's been written
Guthlac Overton born abt 1478. The article that I was talking about was
written by John Hunt.
MrSandmich
ago when I wasn't as concerned with documentation as I am now). I have a Browne
pedigree (from an unknown visitation) on pages 217-218 listed under the heading
of "Additional Pedigrees". It is listed on the same page as a description of
the arms for the family of Kelsams. The pedigree is entitled "Browne of
Betchworth Castle" (reference given as Stowe 618, fo. 233).
The pedigree begins with a certain Sir Anthony Browne Knight of the Bath. Page
218 lists the following "Sir John Browne Knight & lord maior of London had 2
wives". The wives are listed as "Anne his wife daughter of .... Belwood of
Lancashire". The other "Jane daughter and heire of Sir William Swineshed
Knight". This pedigree shows Sir John as a son of "Sr Thomas Browne Knight
Master of the List in the time of K.E. 4 son & heir of Sir Rob." The wife of
Sir Thos. is listed as "Mary his wife daughter of ...Metcalfe of Nappa in com.
Yorkshire". Thomas is shown as the son of "Sir Robert Browne Knight 5 son of
Sir Thomas". His wife is listed as "Mary daughter of Sir William Malett Kt".
Lastly, Sir Robert is listed as son of "Sir Thomas Browne Knight treasurer of
ye household to K. H. 6.". This pedigree states that Betchworth Castle is
located in Kent. I am well aware that visitation records are often times
unreliable. However, this is being posted for those who requested the
information. Hoping this will stimulate further discussion relating to the
ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch.
Regards,
Todd A. Johnson
G . EDWARD ALLEN
It isn't Cuthbert; it really is Guthlac or Guthlake. It is a sain's
name. Robert Browne who married the Sharpe is in no way descended
from the mayor Sir John, even though they appear to share the same coat
of arms.
I have read the registered version of Sir John's will. He was either
very pious or very good at hedging his bets concerning the hereafter.
He left varying sums to almost everyone he knew or to whom he was
related to pray for his soul. If Sir Robert had been his son, even if
illegitimate, he would surely have been mentioned in the will.
I am more inclined to suspect a connection with the Brownes of Stamford.
Kay Allen AG all...@pacbell.net
ALAN O. WATKINS
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> From: G . EDWARD ALLEN <all...@pacbell.net>
> To: GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: Browne
> Date: 21 July 1998 16:33
Todd A. Farmerie
just came across an interesting connection between two families being
discussed here.
Mayor John Munday, who was son-in-law of Mayor William Browne, was
father by an earlier marriage of "Dame Margaret Haward" Her London
i.p.m. indicates that her first husband was Alderman Nicholas Jennyngs,
and that one of her coheiresses was married to Francis "Williams alias
Crumwell", which clearly represents a member of the Protector's family.
taf
Raymond l. montgomery
I have looked at this info and i dont understand it,.
it has King Henry the sixth, (does one exist? i dont know of one) before
king Edward the forth,
and i have Robert Browne and his wife as being born abt 1464 that was
married to Margaret Mallett (is this Mary)
of Becthworth Castle,
There are alot of things here that are hard to be understood,. I am
wondering if you stated this backwards and the pedigree should go the
other way??
Sincerely
ray
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Hmmmmmm. You have heard of King Henry VIII --- the one with the six wives?
Now, how did you think we got to Henry VIII without having a Henry VI before
him --- as well as a Henry VII?
Looking forward to your response.
Sincerely,
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Raymond l. montgomery wrote in message
<19980725.212448....@juno.com>...
>Todd
>I have looked at this info and i dont understand it,.
>it has King Henry the sixth, (does one exist? i dont know of one) [sic]
before
>king Edward the forth, [sic]
>and i have Robert Browne and his wife as being born abt 1464 that was
>married to Margaret Mallett (is this Mary)
>of Becthworth Castle,
>There are alot of things here that are hard to be understood,. I am
>wondering if you stated this backwards and the pedigree should go the
>other way??
>Sincerely
>ray
<snip>
James Masters
confirmation of the children of Sir Thomas Browne married to Eleanor Fitzalan.
I believe that Sir Thomas was the Treasurer of the Household of King Henry VI and
Sheriff of Kent in 1444 and 1460. He was born about 1413 and was hanged by the
Yorkists at Tyburn on 29 July 1460.
Sir Thomas married Eleanor Fitzalan about 1431, daughter of Sir Thomas Fitzalan of
Beechworth (Bechworth?) Castle, Surrey by which marriage Beechworth Castle came
into the Browne family.
Sir Thomas Browne and Lady Eleanor Fitzalan had at least five children viz.
1). Sir George Browne of Beechworth Castle, Surrey born about 1440 and beheaded at
Tower Hill on 4 December 1483, Sheriff of Kent 1481, Member of Parliament 1472,
1473 and 1483 married, about 1471, Elizabeth Paston (1436 - 1 Feb 1488), daughter
of Sir William Paston and Agnes Berry. Their children included Sir Matthew Browne
(d. after 1530) of Beechworth Castle, Surrey, Sheriff of Surrey 1496 and Member of
Parliament for Surrey 1495 who married Fridiswide Guildford, daughter of Sir
Richard Guildford of Hemsted, Kent. Sir George and Elizabeth may have had another
son Simon Browne of Browne Hall in Lancashire and I would be interested in anyone
who can confirm this.
2). Sir Robert Browne who married Mary Malet, daughter of Sir William Malet
3). Sir Anthony Browne, died about 1505, Standard Bearer of England and Constable
of Castle at Calais show married Lucy Neville (d. 25 Mar 1534) daughter of John
Neville, 1st Marquess of Montagu and Earl of Northumberland and his wife Isabel de
Inglethorpe.
4). William Browne who d.s.p.
5). Catherine Browne who married Humphrey Sackville.
Many Thanks!
Sources for the above include
a). Burke's Dormant Baronetcies
b). History of Parliament, Biographies of the Members of the Common House
1439-1509 by Col. Josiah C. Wedgewood
c). Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth Century Colonists by David Faris
MrSandmich wrote:
> I have become very interested in this thread. In particular, I am interested in
> evidence linking Anne Belwood, wife of Sir John Browne (and sister of Thomas
> Belwood aka Belknap) to the family of Sir Hamon Belknap. Has this relationship
> been determined yet? One thing that catches my eye is that John Belknap was
> involved in a legal transaction with Sir Mathew Browne of Betwchworth. While
> evidence is inconclusive, visitation records list Sir John Browne (husband of
> Anne Belwood) as being a son of Sir Thomas Browne (of Bechworth) by wife Mary
> Metcalfe. The line is listed as follows:
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Eleanor Fitzalan
> Sir Robert Browne md. Mary Malet
> Sir Thomas Browne md. Mary Metcalf
> Sir John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
>
> The above line needs a considerable amount of research. However, this
> Belknap-Browne transaction, and Belwood (aka Belknap) -Browne marriage, may
> provide a clue. What should be interesting to many Americans is that Sir John
> Browne and wife Anne Belwood appear to be ancestors of Rev. John Gorsuch. Using
> visitation records (nor currently at my disposal) here is what I have managed
> to put together.
> 1. John Browne md. Anne Belwood
> 2. Sir William Browne md. Alice Keble
> 3. John Browne md. Christian Carkyke
> 4. Anne Browne md. John Hall (of Bishopsgate, London)
> 5. Alice Hall md. Daniel Gorsuch
> 6. Rev. John Gorsuch md. Anne Lovelace
>
> As is well known, Anne Lovelace is a Gateway ancestor of royal descent.
> However, it know looks as though her husband John Gorsuch may also share a
> similar pedigree. I know this is a preliminary outline. Anyone have any
> thoughts on this line?
>
> Regards,
>
> Todd A. Johnson
James Masters
Adrian Channing
Yateman (1903)
THOMAS BROWNE alais MILLS (1414-20 Jul 1460 Hung drawn and quarterd, with
five others, on the day of his conviction) Sir; of Eygthorne, Kent;
Betchworth Cstl, Surrey; London; and other properties in Kent; Lancastrian;
Treasurer of royal household; In 1444 & 1460 said to have been sheriff of
Kent, but this dose not agree to list of sheriffs given by Hasted; In 1458
comm. re Lubeck quarrel; ?Trustee for Rd Duke YORK (1411-30 Dec 1460); In
1459 attainted at Coventry; His Trustee for Horton and other properties in
Kent was JOHN BROWNE Ld Mayor 1480 also, in 1476 Melton manor was held by
JOHN BROWNE Ld Mayor 1480 a property which in 1461/2 was granted to THOMAS
VAUGHN (see below); A Kent herald shows THOMAS as gg-f of this JOHN but
dates seem wrong; m 1434 Eleanor d&h of Sir THOMAS FITZALAN (Earl of
Arundel family) of Betchworth Castle She m2 THOMAS VAUGHN.
That he m. Eleanor d&h of Sir Thomas Fitzalan has not been disputed by any
sources I have seen. The tree produced by Sir Thomas' g-gs Walter Browne
gives their marriage.
The above give a strong indication that there is a link between these
Brownes and the Lord Mayor of London Brownes, but the exact relationship
has not been satisfactorily found.
Sir Thomas Browne's sons living in 1466 are established by the following
extract from an inquisition dated 22 March 1466 (1465/6?), the property
section of which includs Betchworth Castle:
And after the deaths of the said Thomas and Eleanor [Browne] the said
lands, etc., shall remain to William, Archbishop of York, George, Bishop
of Exeter, Richard, Earl of Warwick, John, Earl of Worcester, Henry, Earl
of Essex, with Humphrey, Lord Cromwell, John Lord Stourton, William, Lord
Hastings, and John, Lord Wenlock, and shall remain at their discretion for
the sons of the said Thomas Browne, namely, William, George, Thomas,
Anthony, Robert, Leonard, and Edward between them, according to the last
will of the said Thomas Browne for that purpose made. If any of them are
deceased, then according as the said feoffees shall determine.
My notes on Sir Thomas' issue are:
A) GEORGE (-3 Dec 1483 bhd London for supporting Dk BUCKINGHAM, Er RICHMOND
& LAMBERT SIMNEL against Rd III, bur Black friers, Ludgate, London) Sir;
In c1461 Ed IV reversed attainer on his father but not all eststes
restored; of Bechworth Cstl & probably London; In 1471/2 knghtd; In 1481
Sheriff of Kent; In 1483 in Kentish rebelion; m 1471 Elizabeth (-1 Feb
1488 bur Black friers) d of Sir WILLIAM PASTON & wdw of ROBERT POYNINGS
(-17 Feb 1460/1 bat of St Albans)
His descendants lived in Betchworth Castle (which was no more than a
fortified house) for many generations. The building was pulled down early
in this century, I think for its building materials. There are still some
remains, trouble is, it is situated in the middle of a private golf course,
and trespasses are most unwelcome, one day I will pluck up enough courage
to go and see it.
I have his issue as
Mathew (1473-6 Aug 1557); Sir; In 1485 restored in blood; m Fridiswide or
Wilfred d of Sir Richard Guildford of Hempsted, Kent.
Mary m after 1487 to Bradbridge.
The following issue have also been ascribed to Sir George but are not
mentioned in his will and I think are an error
Richard m d of Sands
William
Simon
I understand the last comes from a book on the descendants (or perhaps s/b
ascendantsts) of a Michael Dayton (included in The Browne Papers compiled
by the late Haygate-Browne), and is not mentioned by any other source that
I have seen, frankly I don't belive it.
The Paston family are from Norfolk and are the family whose letters have
been published (including a v. brief one from Sir George Browne)
The Poynings are a well known Sussex family, there is a village named
after them, or perhaps the other way round. It was a distant relative of
his who introduced the so called Poyning Laws in Ireland, in which the Ir
were suppose to follow English language, customs and laws
B) THOMAS
C) ROBERT; The link with the Lord Mayor of London Brownes has been made
by ascribing him as a knight and marrying him of to Mary d of William
Mallet but this is not shown on Walter Browne's tree. Pym Yateman argues
it is not true. Robert's daughter Eleanor m1 Thomas Fogg (-16 Aug 1512
bur Ashford), of Ashford, Kent and m2 William Kempe (1487-28 Jan 1535 bur
Wye), of Ollantigh, Wye, Kent and sheriff of Kent. She left issue by both.
Her Will (which I have not seen) is dated 21 Aug 1560 and she is bur in Wye
D) ANTHONY; Sir (-1506 Calais, will 1505 proved 1506 request bur in St
Nicholas Chapel alias Reserection Church, London) In 1486 knighted; In
1485- Standard bearer for Eng; In 1486-1506 Constable of Queenborough
Castle; In 1503- Constable of Calais Castle; Owned property in Calais (As
did the Sir William Browne Lord Mayor of London in 1507 and the Stephen
Browne Lord Mayor in 1438 & 1448); m1 Alice (-bur St Nicholas Chapel) m2
Lucy (-Will 1531 bur 1534 Bisham Abbey) d&ch of JOHN NEVIL (-bur Bisham
Abbey) Mq of MONTAQU and wdw of Sir THOMAS FITZWILLIAM, of Aldwarke co
York. She left Bagshot manor and many other properties in her Will
Sir Anthony's Will is short, and I think made in haste. He left (probably
by m1, or base) Anne one of the wives of Charles Brandon, later Duke of
Suffolk, and by Lucy, with other issue he had Sir Anthony father of Sir
Anthony 1st Viscount Montague. These Brownes residence was at Cowdray,
near Midhurst, Sussex, but also had property at Battle Abbey (hence the
acquisition of the Battle Abbey Rolls which were destroyed in the Cowdray
fire of 1793), Sothwark, Weybridge and many more monastic properties gained
after the reformation, most of which Sir Anthony II received from his half
brother Sir William FitzWilliam, Earl of Southampton.
E) WILLIAM. I think one of the Burke's editions also tries to marry him
off to Mary d of Sir William Mallet , clearly an error.
F) LEONARD
G) EDWARD
H) Katherine m HUMPHREY or RICHARD SACKVILE of Buckhurst co Sussex,
said to be connected to Duke of DORSET family
regards Adrain
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Reedpcgen
<<a). Burke's Dormant Baronetcies
<<b). History of Parliament, Biographies of the Members of the Common House
1439-1509 by Col. Josiah C. Wedgewood
Neither of these two sources is necessarily accurate or reliable.
Wedgwood [sic] had many helpers and was just not as thorough or accurate as
Bindoff, Roskell and the other editors who succeeded in the continuing series
of Parliamentary biographies (which are actually VERY good).
<<c). Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth Century Colonists by David Faris
Faris at least cites his sources and tries to be accurate.
Aren't two good sources for this family:
(1) John Gough Nichols, "Honeywood Evidences," _The Topographer and
Genealogist_ , v. 2 (John Bower Nichols and Sons: London, 1853); and
(2) John Pym Yeatman, _The Brownes of Beechworth Castle ... (by the author: [n.
p.], [1903])?
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Maggie Riceman
P.S. It was so nice not to have to wade through your unpleasant comments
while you were gone. PLEASE, don't go away mad, just GO AWAY!!!!!