Wistan Browne of South Weald (-1581)
ADRIANCH...@aol.com
I have finally completed the transcription of the Will of Wistan Browne of
South Weald, Essex; pr 27 April 1581; PROB 11/63, the grand nephew of the Sir
Anthony Browne whose Will I recently transcribed. I give the summary of his
will, all information ascertainable from the Will except my additional notes
in square brackets. How many Wills names their male ancestors up to
gr-grandfather? If anybody wants the whole lot, let me know — it is longer than that
of Sir Anthony
Will summary:
Wistan Browne (born White Roding; PCC Will 16 Jan 1579/80 pr 27 April 1581
to be bur South Weald) of South Weald, Essex; Catholic; s&h of George Browne
(-<1580) of White Roding himself s&h of John Browne of Abbess Roding s&h of
Sir Wistan Browne of Abbes Roding kt.
m1 Mary (-<1579 bur South Weald) d of Sir Edward Capell (-<1579/80) kt, m2
Elizabeth (->1579/80) [d of Giles Paulett, probably related to the Paulett
Marquis of Winchester family as they received a wedding present from the widow
of the 2nd Marquis, see below]
Issue who are all minors:
Son &h: Anthony Browne [by m1, he dsp 1589 or 1583]
Daughters: (i) Katherine (by m1) and (ii) Jane als Johan [by m1]
Cousin and next heir of great uncle Sir Anthony Browne kt of South Weald a
Justice of the Common Plees [Sir Anthony was br of the above John Browne]
Cousin John Cobden (possibly Dobden)
Aunt: Lady Jane Browne (living) [probably the widow of Sir Anthony Browne]
Brother: John Browne
Cousin: Richard Cutte (executor) [als Cutts; Sir Anthony Browne’s sister
Catherine m John Cutts and left issue including Richard]
Others:
Mrs ffynch
Lady Marquis Dowager of Winchester, [Winifred d of John Brydges Knt mayor of
London, 3rd wife of John Paulet 2Mq Winchester] Reference to her wedding
gift on Wiston’s m2.
Richard Pease farmer
John Wright of Marke, White Roding, bailiff of Marke
Harry Banckes (parson)
Thomas Leventhorpe [Wistan’s mother was Elizabeth Leventhorpe]
Lady Dorothy Huddelstone wife of Sir Edmund Huddelstone knight [Sir Anthony
Browne’s step dau Dorothy who m Edmund Huddleston]
Sir John Peter knt (good friend and neighbour) (executor and to be custodian
of son Anthony) [Probably the Sir John Petre (1549-1613) 1st Bn Petre of
Ingatestone whose mother was Anne d of Sir William Browne mayor of London in
1513 (This was Ann’s m2, her m1 to Thomas s of Sir John Tyrell of Heron’s
place)]
Brother Henry Capell (executor) {Wistan m1 Mary d of Sir Edward Capel and
brother of Sir Henry Capel who, incidentally, m1 Mary d of Sir Anthony Browne of
Cowdrey]
Thomas Wallinger (loving friend) (executor)
George Monke (servant, to be Bailiff)
Edward Humberstone (to be keeper of my Park Tuckewoode hall)
Request to Lord Burghley, I think to consent that Sir John Peter to be son’s
custodian
Principal Properties (all Essex):
Weld Hall
Rookewood Hall
Colvile Hall als Knightys als Brownes manor, White Roding
Churchehall manor, Pakelsham (with the living)
Lord of the manor of Langenhoo
Moiety of Rectory lands & tenements, Langenhoo
Marks manor, White Roding
Lands called Much Biggins and little Biggyns
1/3rd of mannor of Costedhall
1/3rd of the market and fair in Brentwood
1/3rd of free chappell or chantries in Brookestrete
1/3rd of 100 acres of land called Spittle lands in Brookestrete and South
Weald
Adrian
mj...@btinternet.com
> I have finally completed the transcription of the Will of Wistan Browne of
> Anthony Browne whose Will I recently transcribed. I give the summary of his
> will, all information ascertainable from the Will except my additional notes
> in square brackets. How many Wills names their male ancestors up to
> of Sir Anthony
Many thanks, Adrian, for having taken the time to transcribe and then
share that. It is an amazing genealogical document. Wouldn't it be
good if all wills were as detailed and informative!
Cheers, Michael
wjhonson
the spouse of Mary d of Sir Anthony Browne of Cowdrey.
I agree that Mary Browne married *some* Henry Capell, but I suggest it
was someone else.
Henry Capell, the one you mentioned, was born in 1537 and died in
1588. His first wife was Katherine Manners, dau of Thomas Manners the
Earl of Rutland by his wife Eleanor Paston.
This Henry however, also had an uncle, also Henry Capell, who died in
1558 and who also held the Manor of Hadham.
This older Henry might be a better match for Mary Browne.
Will Johnson
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writes:
Will Johnson
<<<<<
Will,
Thanks for that, you may well be correct as my information on the Capells is
not that solid. In fact I have Mary Browne as Henry Capell's 1st wife and
that she was widow of John Grey of Pirgo (younger son of Thomas Grey 2nd
Marquess of Dorset) I did not have the 1537 birth date of Henry Capell. I have a
note of the uncle Henry Capell, mentioned in his grandfather's will (William
Capell, will pr 1515/6) and that he was of Rayne Hall, but no more on him,
presumably he was his fathers heir and died sp. I must look at this further.
cheers,
Adrian
ADRIANCH...@aol.com
Capells (page 171/2)
We have Wiston Browne of Rookwood m1 Mary Capell sister of Henry Capell of
Raynes Hall
But then it has this Henry Capell's son, Sir Gamaliell Capell m Jayne 2nd
daughter and heir of Wiston Browne of Rookwood [Morant states this dau was by
Wistons m1, ie Mary Capell]
Adrian
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In a message dated 2/13/2008 5:25:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ADRIANCH...@aol.com writes:
Henry Capell, mentioned in his grandfather's will (William
Capell, will pr 1515/6) and that he was of Rayne Hall, but no more on him,
presumably he was his fathers heir and died sp. I must look at this
further.>>
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IIRC this uncle Henry was that one who only held Hadham for 1 year.
The family held both Rayne and Hadham, I'm not sure exactly where this Henry
lived mostly.
I'll check my notes later today and see if I have anything more.
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wjhonson
First do you happen to have that Will of Sir William Capell PCC 13
Holder, died 6 Dec 1515. I don't have the date of the Will nor when
it was proved. I'd like to see if he specifically calls Henry his
"grandson". I don't think he would call him "of Rayne" as he couldn't
be more then 10 years old and his father was yet living.
The father of Sir Henry Capell, Knt of Rayne and Hadham (only of
Hadham from 1556 to 1557 as he died that year) was Sir Giles Capell,
Knt of Rayne by his wife "Jatbelle" Newton co-heiress of her father
Richard esq of Weeke by his wife Lettice Hampton.
Afaik, Giles and Jatbelle only had two children, Henry and his brother
and heir Edward who was later of course of Hadham and of Aspenden (by
what I don't know).
This Sir Henry Capell who died in 1557 has no surviving issue as his
brother Edward was his own heir to Hadham.
I'm not sure if Sir Giles ever lived at Hadham, he certainly didn't
from 1515 to 1522 as his mother Margaret Arundel lived there and was
holding for life after William died in 1515. She died obviously in
1522. Her own will is PCC 2 Ayloffe but I don't know what it says.
Sir Giles Capell has a will PCC 6 Wrastley. He died *at* Rayne on 29
May 1556, long after his wife Jatbelle who died "bef 23 Nov 18H8" (not
ON it). Sir Giles is named, alone, with his brother-and-sister in-law
Thomas Griffin and Joan (Newton) Griffin in a courtroll dated 1527
where Joan is specifically called "one of the daughters and heirs of
Rd Neuton decd" so apparently Giles wife Jatbelle was then already
dead, but I'm not sure.
*DO not ask me* where the heck a bizarre name like "Jatbelle" comes
from, but it's also been rendered Isabel although apparently in error.
Sir Henry Capell born 25 Oct 1505 has a proof-of-age dated 23 Nov
18H8, he was also heir of his mother seperately, although I'm not sure
what he got from her.
It's quite possible that Mary (Browne) Capell *might* be named or
mentioned either in the estate of Jatbelle, or that of Sir Giles. So
at least this long-monologue gives a few more places to look.
Will Johnson
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a daughter that? Wasn't jezebel a ancient name for a prostitute, or
something like that. My biblical history is bad.
Ken
wjhonson
I agree the problem being that now we have first cousins marrying.
Seems possibly ...not likely.
mj...@btinternet.com
Once the Reformation came, first cousin marriages ceased to be a
problem. The Church of England's rules on marrying relatives (the
Table of Kindred and Affinity) did not prohibit cousin-marriages of
any kind.
The Table of Kindred and Affinity dates from 1560.
From my brief review of the chronology, it seems that the Jane Brown/
Gamaliel Capell marriage took place no earlier than the reign of
Elizabeth (it was Jane's second marriage; her first was to Edward
Wyatt of Tillingham); the IGI has a *submitted* date for the Jane
Brown/Gamaliel Capell marriage of 1584, FWIW.
MA-R
wjhonson
> From my brief review of the chronology, it seems that the Jane Brown/
> Gamaliel Capell marriage took place no earlier than the reign of
> Elizabeth (it was Jane's second marriage; her first was to Edward
> Wyatt of Tillingham); the IGI has a *submitted* date for the Jane
> Brown/Gamaliel Capell marriage of 1584, FWIW.
>
A qualified *maybe*. Gamaliel Capell was "fourth son" and "aged 4 in
1570" (Vis Essex) so I would rather suspect "1584" as being a "not
married before" type date. We've seen how people being people,
frequently remove "bef", "aft", "circa" etc which then launches a
whole series of re-corrections.
While Jane Browne was "second daughter and co-heiress" and also "minor
at the time of her father's will dated 1581". So all of that
certainly gives us a quite narrow window as Mary Capell, her eldest
daughter was already having a child in 1621 by William Luckyn, 1st
Bart of Little Waltham.
I have Jane's birthrange currently as 1563/81 and would welcome
anything helping to narrow it more. Especially work on her mother
Mary Capell whose birthrange I currently have only as 1528/55 which is
tantamount to saying "I have no idea!"
Will Johnson
ADRIANCH...@aol.com
writes:
>>>>>>
I have Jane's birthrange currently as 1563/81 and would welcome
anything helping to narrow it more. Especially work on her mother
Mary Capell whose birthrange I currently have only as 1528/55 which is
tantamount to saying "I have no idea!"
Will Johnson
>>>>>>>
Will,
Morant' Essex has:
He [Wistan] married first Mary daughter of Sir Edward Capel by whom he had
Antony .... and two daughters
Catharine, wife of Sir Nicholas Waldegrave; and
Jane, married first to Edward Wyatt Esq.; of Gellingham, and afterwards to
Gamalied, fourth son of Henry Capel* Esq., the first then aged 18 and the
second 16 years (Inquis 25 Eliz. Oct. 3 nu 181 [1583])
(044, page 118, Vol. I)
Adrian
ADRIANCH...@aol.com
writes:
>>>
OK let's see.
First do you happen to have that Will of Sir William Capell PCC 13
Holder, died 6 Dec 1515. I don't have the date of the Will nor when
it was proved. I'd like to see if he specifically calls Henry his
"grandson". I don't think he would call him "of Rayne" as he couldn't
be more then 10 years old and his father was yet living.
>>>>
Will,
This Will, or rather extracts, is in Test Vet pp 533-4 (Vol II)
Sir WILLIAM CAPEL, KNT.
William Capel, Knight, Alderman of London {fn Ancestor of the Earls of
Essex. This eminent merchant is celebrated for his resistance of the extortions
of Empson and Dudley, in consequence of which he was imprisoned in the Tower,
where he continued until the accession of Henry VIII. He was knighted 17th
December 1485, and represented the City of London in Parliament in the 7th
Henry VII. and again in 1512 and 1514, and died September 6th, 1515}; my wife
Margaret {fn Daughter of Sir Thomas Arundel, of Lanhearn, co. Cornwall,
Knight}; my son Sir Giles Capel and his sons Henry and Edward Capel; my daughters
... {fn Dorothy, wife of John Lord Zouche, of Haryngworth.}, wife of Sir John
Zouche, and Elizabeth, wife of William Paulet {fn First Marquess of
Winchester}; my manors of Hadham and Walkern, in the county of Herts, Bacons in Essex,
Beames in Wiltshire, Kingsworth and Claversham in Hampshire, Norton in Kent,
South Wotton, Goderston, and Massingham, in Norfolk, and Stoneham Aspall in
Suffolk. Proved 17th March 1515 {fn 1515-16}
p 594-5
Margaret Lady Capell.
Dame Margaret Capell, widow of Sir William Capell. To my son Sir Giles
Capell King Edward the Fifth's chain, with remainder to Henry and Edward Capell
respectively, remainder to my daughter Elizabeth Paulet and her heirs.
Proved 18th April 1522
Adrian
wjhonson
> p 594-5
> Margaret Lady Capell.
> Dame Margaret Capell, widow of Sir William Capell. To my son Sir Giles
> Capell King Edward the Fifth's chain, with remainder to Henry and Edward Capell
> respectively, remainder to my daughter Elizabeth Paulet and her heirs.
> Proved 18th April 1522
>
> Adrian
Dorothy (Capell) Zouche may already be dead. She died sometime
between Jan 1515 and Oct 1527, but surely she is the mother of the six
(at least) Zouche children of John, 8th Baron Zouche of Harryngworth
(born from about 1510 to about 1520 more or less).
Sir William Capell is possibly much older than Margaret Arundell. I
wonder if possibly, although Dorothy is his daughter, that Dorothy is
not *her* daughter?
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Ken
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Dear Ken,
" the name Jezebel came to be used as slang for impure
women on account of Je-ze-ba`al, daughter of Eth- Ba`al, King of the Phoenician
city-state who married Ahab, son of Omri, King of Israel. She was in fact
Ahab`s faithful wife but she led him to turn his face away from Yahweh, the
Jew`s name for God and to worship Ba`al in his place.
Sincerely,
James W
Cummings
Dixmont,
Maine USA