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Leo van de Pas via

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Aug 24, 2014, 6:49:29 PM8/24/14
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Dear Brian,

I am not sure this helps, but John Vaughan is mentioned in the Complete Peerage Volume II page 424.

This refers to his only daughter Frances who married Lord Burgh, footnote B "The statement that she is the daughter of John Vaughan, of Golden Grove, Carmarthen, is wrong. In the main segment her father is identified as John Vaughan, of Sutton on Derwent, and Anne Pickering.

Anne Pickering (descendant of Edward I) married three times
(1) Sir Francis Weston and had (at least) Henry
(2) Sir Henry Knyvett and had Thomas, Henry, Catherine
(3) John Vaughan and had Francis and Frances

Anne is an ancestor of
Queen Elizabeth II
Lady Diana Spencer (also descended from John Vaughan)
Camilla, duchess of Cornwall
Sarah Ferguson (also descended from John Vaughan)
David Cameron, British Prime Minister

Hope this is of interest
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


I am trying to identify a particular Edward Vaughan. Below is the pertinent information that I have been able to gather. In his will, he mentions his "cousin John Vaughan that married my Lady Knevet;" this being John Vaughan Esq. of Sutton-upon-Derwent, Yorks. (son of Thomas Vaughan of Porthaml, Brec.), who married Anne d/o Sir Christopher Pickering of Killington, Westmld., wid. of Sir Henry Knevet. (John Vaughan has a Hist. of Parl. profile)

I would be extremely grateful for any help in identifying him.


Captain Edward Vaughan of St. Olave, London, will written 23 April 1561, and proven 10 June 1561 (PROB 11/44/234). He was son of... Vaughan, by his wife Anne d/o... After his decease, she then married William Lego of London.[1], [2] Married Emme d/o Sir Matthew Browne of Betchworth Castle, Surrey. Had issue: 2 sons, John, heir, born 1542; and Dominic, seminary priest.[3], [4] And 3 daus., Elizabeth, Jane, and Mabel. Groom Porter to Henry VIII.[5] , [6] Captain of troops at Guines, Calais, 1541-1543.[7] In 1544, commissary with German mercenaries.[8] Pensioner for the Siege of Boulogne.[9] Captain of Portsmouth, Hants., to oversee coastal defenses and dissolving of monasteries within region, 1545-1549.[10], [11] Died on 8 May 1561, and buried at St. Olave, Silver Street, London.[12]






[1] PROB 11/30/68 (Anne Lego)
[2] E 163/9/33 Edward Vaughan to John Darnall, "brother Wiseman"
[3] T.F. Knox, 1st and 2nd Diaries of the English College, Douay (1878), p. 259-60.
[4] G. Anstruther, The Seminary Priests 1558-1603 (1969), p. 365-6.
[5] J.G. Nichols, Topographer and Genealogist Vol. II (1853), p. 267.
[6] J. Gairdner et al., Letters and Papers, For. and Dom. Hen. VIII Vol. 19 part 1 (1903), 141.69
[7] J. Gairdner et al., Letters and Papers, For. and Dom. Hen. VIII Vol. 18 part 1 (1901), 960
[8] J.A. Muller, The Letters of Stephen Gardiner (1933), p. 284.
[9] J. Gairdner et al., Letters and Papers, For. and Dom. Hen. VIII Vol. 19 part 1 (1903), 275
[10] J. Gairdner et al., Letters and Papers, For. and Dom. Hen. VIII Vol. 21 part 2 (1910), 747
[11] J.A. Muller, The Letters of Stephen Gardiner (1933), p. 272-6.
[12] C 142/130/128, Inq. p.m. (Edward Vaughan)



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Adrian via

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Aug 24, 2014, 7:34:53 PM8/24/14
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In _The Brownes of Bechworth Castle_, by John Pym Yeatman 1903, p 49
He gives the issue of Sir Matthew Browne including:
(5th d) Emmet Browne, married to John Stukley, and he died sp., after she
married "Vaughan ye Gwinpocher," and by him had issue Dionisius Vaughan, and
a daughter married to Bedingfield.

I don’t know Yeatman’s source for this.

Note that Sir Matthew Browne (1473-1557) was eldest son of George Browne (d.
1483 Ex) and grandson of Thomas Browne (1414-1460 Ex.) Thomas Browne’s
widow Eleanor d&h of Sir Thomas Fitzalan of Betchworth Cstl m2 THOMAS
VAUGHAN (-1483 Ex) s of Robert Vaughan of Monmouth by Margaret NN. Also
another son of Thomas Browne was ANTHONY BROWNE (d 1506 Calais, will 25 Sep
1505 proved 19 Nov 1506 request bur Resurrection Chapel, St Nicholas'
Church, Calais) In 1486 knighted; In 1485- Standard bearer for Eng; In
1486-1506 Constable of Queenborough Castle; In 1503- Constable of Calais
Castle and owned property there.

I believe that “Guines” was the name of the castle in Calais.

Adrian (Surrey UK)
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Brian Hessick

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Aug 24, 2014, 8:50:10 PM8/24/14
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Thanks for that Adrian.
I meant to mention that he married Emme Browne, wid. of... Stewkley.

Concerning "Gwinpocher". It would seem that this is mistranscribed. Any thoughts about where this might be? Using wildcards in Discovery, I found a similar place called Gwenegochen, but again there is only one example of this reference.
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Brian Hessick

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Aug 26, 2014, 4:10:08 AM8/26/14
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There are a few things worth mentioning. In Anstruther's Seminary Priests, it states about (Edward's son) Dominic Vaughan, "Nothing is known of his antecedents, except that he is called nobilis."

John Darnall, Baron of the Exchequer, was uncle to Captain Edward Vaughan, by what means I do not know. In his will written 29 July 1540, he mentions a number of Vaughan relatives:


"my nephew Edward VAUGHAN"
"unto my said cousin Edward's wife"
"unto my said cousin Edward VAUGHAN"
"unto my nephew Bartholomew VAUGHAN"
"to Robert VAUGHAN the elder my cousin"
"to my cousin Robert his younger brother"

The latter two although say cousin never do use the word nephew, even though he at times will interchangeably use the words nephew and cousin as seen elsewhere in his will.


I can't help but wonder if "Vaughan ye Gwinpocher" may be referring to [Blaen] y Cwm, Penmachno, in Caernarfonshire, Wales, where there was a Vaughan estate. A bit of a stretch but I cannot find anything remotely close in spelling to "ye Gwinpocher". Yet it would make sense since in 1587, a Robert Vaughan was living at that estate. We know this through the will of John Vaughan Esq. of Westminster, Middx. (1587), where he mentions his father and mother Robert and Elizabeth Vaughan along with his own estates in Penmachno.

All for now,
Brian

Brian Hessick

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Aug 28, 2014, 8:12:53 AM8/28/14
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Thanks to Adrian for providing an image of origins to the pedigree of Sir Matthew Browne of Bechworth Castle, Surrey.

For the record, I would like to give my own interpretation to what the pedigree says hoping that it may clarify any confusion caused by the transcription in "The Brownes of Bechworth Castle" by John Pym Yeatman.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Sir_Matthew_Browne%2C_pedigree_of_daugters.jpg


In box 5, I believe it states:

Emme Browne married
to Stukley and he died
without issue and after she
married Vaughan Esquire
groom porter, and by him
had issue, Dominick
Vaughan and a daughter
married to Beningfield

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