Ancestors of Prince of Wales - Agnes Alvsdatter Bolt
Frank H. Johansen
Here's a some of the ancestry (the first 12 generations) of Agnes
Alvsdatter Bolt, b. 1398, d. 1472. She's mentioned in Gerald Paget's
"Lineage and Ancestry of the Prince of Wales" [Edinburgh: Skilton, 1973] on
page 294 as Prince Charles ancestor number Q1442. None of her ancestors are
mentioned in this book.
One can draw lines back to the old Norwegian, Danish and Swedish Viking
Kings, aswell as several lines to Charlemagne
1. Agnes Alvsadatter BOLT, b. 1398, d. 1472
2. Alv Haraldsson BOLT, b. ca 1345
3. Katharina Jonsdatter SUDREIM, b. ca. 1350
4. Harald Alvsson BOLT, ment. 1340
5. Joron Björnsdatter KAMP
6. Jon Marteinsson, a Swedish nobleman.
7. Agnes Sigurdsdatter SUDREIM
8. Alv BOLT, from Vestfold in Southern Norway
9. ?
10. Björn Amundsson KAMP
11. Goro Torleivsdatter, b. after 1324
12. Sigurd Haftorsson, Baron of Sudreim, Giske and Bjarkey, b. 1315, d.
1392
13. Ingeborg Erlingsdatter of Giske and Bjarkey
20. Amund Björnsson KAMP, b. ca. 1310
21. N. Haftoresdatter
22. ?
23. ?
24. Haftore Jonsson, Baron of Sudreim, b. 1270, d. 1320
25. Agnes Haakonsdatter of Norway [Illegtim]
40. Björn Holtesson KAMP. According to the saga tradition, the KAMP or
KUSSE family descends agantic from the first norwegian king, Harlad the
Fairhaired. But I don't know the exact genealogy. Björn lived at the Holter
farm in Romerike in Southern Norway.
41. Ragnhild Audunsdotter BORG (her tombstone can still be seen at the
ruins of the Hovedöya (= "Main Island") Monastery oustide of Oslo
42. ?
43. ?
48. Jon the Red Ivarsson, Baron of Sudreim, f. ca. 1240
49. N. (Elin?) Haakonsdatter of Oslo
50. Haakon V, King of Norway, b. 1270, d. 1319
51. Katharina Sigurdsdatter
82. Audun Torirsson IN BORG, born ca. 1150, died after 1204. He was a close
relative (a "frende") to Inga of Varteig, mother of king Haakon IV
Haakonsson. His father Haakon III Sverresson and Inga actually met (maybe
Haakon IV was conceived there also) in a feast at Audun's. Audun lived in
Borg (now Sarpsborg) in Southern Norway.
83. ?
84. ?
85. ?
96. Ivar Olavsson, Baron of Sudreim, mentioned 1224
97. Ragnhild Alvsadtter of Tornberg (in Östfold in Sothern Norway)
98. Haakon Torirsson, Bishop of Oslo, d. 1267
99. Elin
100. Magnus "the Lawpatcher" (that means he didn't make the laws, the just
patched togeather the different lawbooks of Norway to a national lawbok),
King of Norway, b. 1238, d. 1280
101. Ingeborg of Denmark, d. 1287
192. Olav Mok, Baron of Sudreim, ment. 1224
193. N. Dagsdatter of Saksvik
196. Torir Olavsson
197. Borghild of Stordal
200. Haakon IV Haakonsson, b. postom. 1204, d. 1263 [see #82]
201. Margrethe Skulesdatter of Rein
202. Erik "Plovpennig", King of Denmark, b. 1216, d. 1250
203. Jutta von Brandenburg und Sachsen
384. [Assumed:] Ivar Aalesson, Baron of Sudreim
385. ?
386. Dag Kaaresson of Saksvik (in Tröndelag in Middle Norway)
387. ?
392. Olav "Jarlemaag", wich means something like "Brother-in-law of the
Earl" ("maag" could actually mean anyone of your male in-laws). From the
Orkneys, b. 1145, d. 1194
393. Elin Eiriksdatter
400. Haakon III Sverresson, King of Norway, b. ca. 1173, d. 1204
401 Inga of Varteig, see #82
402. Skule Jarl Baardsson, later the first norwegian duke or "hertug"
403. Ragnhild Nikolasdatter of Giske
404. Valdemar II the Victorer, King of Denmark, b. 1170, d. 1241
405. Berengaria/Bengerd of Portugal, b. 1194, d. 1221
768. Aale Varg, Baron of Sudreim
769. A daughter of King Harald Gille of Norway
772. ?
773. ?
784. Svein Aasleivsson of Gairsey in the Orkneys, b. 1115, d. 1171
785. Ragnhild Ogmunsdatter
800. Sverre Sigurdsson, King of Norway, b. ca. 1151, d. 1202
801. Margareta Eriksdotter of Sweden
802. ?
803. ?
804. Baard Guttormsson, "Baron" of Rein
805. Rangdid Erlingsdatter of Kvie
806. Nikolas Paalsson, "Baron" of Giske
807. ?
808. Valdemar I the Great, King of Denmark, b. 1131, d. 1182
809. Sophie Wolodarovna of Minsk, b. 1141, d. 1198
810. Sancho I Martino, Rey de Portugal, b. 1154, d. 1212
811. Dulcia of Aragon and Barcelona, b. 1160, d. 1198
1536. [Assumed:] Ivar Haakonsson, Baron of Sudreim
1537. ?
1538. Harald Gille, King of Norway, d. 1136
1539. One of his mistresses
1568. Olav Rolvsson of Gairsey, b. 1080
1569. Aasleiv Gunnarsdatter from Caithness. Often, when the mother was of
higher birth, the son took the mother's name as surname instead of his
father's. Therefore, the son of Olav Rolvsson and Aasleiv Gunnsarsdatter
was known as Svein AASLEIVsson.
1600. [Assumed:] Sigurd Haraldsson, King in Norway. Sverre claimed to be
his son, and he truly believed it himself. But it has never been proven.
And it can never be proven neither that he was nor that he was not.
1601. A woman from the Faeroys.
1602. Erik the Holy, King of Sweden, d. 1160
1603. Christina Björnsdotter of Sweden
1608. Guttorm Aasulvsson, "Baron" of Rein
1609. Bergljot Sveinsdatter
1610. Erling of Kvie in Valdres in Middle Norway
1611. ?
1612. Paal Skoftesson, "Baron" of Giske
1613. Sigrid Torkelsdatter of Fosen
1616. Knud Lavard, Duke of Southern Jutland (Schleswig) and Vendland
(Mecklenburg), b. 1096, d. 1131
1617. Ingeborg Mstislawska of Novgorod
1618. Wolodar Gljebovitsj, Prince of Minsk, d. after 1167
1619. Richiza of Polen, b.1116, d. after 1155
1620. Affonso I, King of Portugal, b. 1110, d. 1185
1621. Mafalda of Savoy, b. 1125, d. 1157
1622. Ramon Berengar IV, Conde de Barcelona, b. 1132, d. 1162
1623. Petronilla, Reina de Aragon
3072. Haakon Ivarrson of Sudreim, Jarl (= "Earl") (in Norway, they weren't
necesseraly Jarl/Earl "of Somwhere". Usually, it was just one "Jarl" at the
time, and it was a kind of semi-heridatry-elective title. Sudreim is in
Romerike in Southern Norway.
3073. Ragnhild Magnusdatter of Norway [Illegitim]
3076. Magnus "with the naked feat", King of Norway, b. 1073, d. 1103.
(These norwegian epithets (?) seems rather silly when translated don't
they? I mean, on the continet the kings were know as the Brave, the
Magnificent or the Great. In Norway they were known as "with the naked
feet" or "the Fairhaired")
3077. One of his mistresses.
3136. Rolv Olavsson of Thinwall (Tingvoll) on the Orkenys, b. 1040
3137. ?
3138. Gunnar Haavardsson, of Caithness
3139. ?
3200. = 1538.
3201. = 1539 (or antoher of his mistresses)
3204. Jedvard Thordsson, a Swedish "nobleman"
3205. N. Svensdotter, of Sweden
3206. Björn "Ironside", King in Sweden, d. 1134
3207. ?
3216. Aasulv Skulesson, "Baron" of Rein
3217. Tora Skoftesdatter of Giske
3218. Svein Haraldsson, a pretender to the Norwegian throne
3219. ?
3220. Ketil Vilhjalmsson of Torgar in Middle Norway
3221. ?
3224. Skofte Ogmundsson, "Baron" of Giske, the first Norwegian Cruciader,
d. 1100 in the Holy Land
3225. Ranghild Paalsdatter of the Orkneys
3232. Erik "Ejegod", King of Denmark, d. 1103
3233. Bothilde Thurgotsdatter
3234. Mistislaw I Vladmiritsj (in the Saga, know as Harald Valdemarsson),
Grand Duke of Kiev and Novgorod, b. 1076, d. 1132
3235. Christina Ingesdotter of Sweden
3236. Gljeb Vsevoloditsj, Prince of Minsk, d. 1118
3237. Anastanisa of Wladimir, b. 1075, d. 1151
3238. Boleslaw III, Krol Polski, b. 1086, d. 1138
3239. Salome von Berg-Schelklingen, d. 1144
3240. Enrique de Borgondie, Conde de Portugal, b. 1066, d. 1112
3241. Teresa de Leon y Castilla, b. 1079, d. 1130
3242. Amadeo III, Conde de Savoya, d. 1148
3243. ?
3244. Ramon Berengar III, Conde de Barcelona, b. 1082, d. 1131
3245. Dulce I, Comtesse de Provence etc
6144. Ivar the White Jarnskjeggesson, mentioned 1024
6145. Tora Amundsdatter
6146. Magnus the Good, King of Norway
6147. Bergljot Halfdansdatter of Ringerike
6152. Olav III Kyrre, King of Norway, d. 1093
6153. Ingrid Svendsdatter of Denmark
6272. Olav Rolvsson, of Thinwall (Tingvoll), b. ca. 1000
6273. ?
6276. Haavard Gunnarsson, of Caithness
6277. ?
6408. Thord Bonde
6409. ?
6410. Sven Stenkilsson, Prince of Sweden
6411. ?
6412. Inge Stenkilsson, King of Sweden
6413. ?
6432. Skule Tostigsson of Northumbria, "Baron" of Rein in Tröndelag in
Middle Norway. Son of Tostig Godwinesson, Earl of Northumbria (brother of
Harold Godwinesson) and Judith of Flanders
6433. Gudrun Nevsteinsdatter
6434. = 3224.
6435. = 3225.
6436. Harald Torkelsson
6437. Torbjörg Haakonsdatter of Sudreim, daughter of #3072 and #3073
6440. Vilhjalm Ketilsson of Torgar, nephew of #6433, d. 1138
6441. Jartrud Jonsdatter of Bjarkey in Northern Norway (for a long time,
Bjarkey was Norway's most northern outpost)
6448. Ogmund Torbergsson, "Baron of Giske"
6449. Aalov Tordsdatter
6450. Paal Torfinnsson, Jarl / Earl of the Orkneys
6451. = 3073.
6464. Svend Estridssen, King of Denmark, b. ca. 1018, d. 1076
6465. One of his mistresses
6466. Thurgot Fagerskind, a Danish nobleman
6467. ?
6468. Vladimir Monomachos, Grand Duke of Kiev (and Novgorod) (nephew of the
wife of Henri I of France), b. 1053, d. 1125
6469. Gytha Haroldsdaughter of England (daughter of Harold Godwinesson)
6470. = 6412.
6471. = 6413.
6472. ?
6473. ?
6474. Jaropolk, Prince of Vladimir, d. 1085
6475. Kunigunde von Weimar, b. 1055, d. 1117
6476. Wladyslaw I Herman, Ksiaz Polski
6477. Judith von Böhmen, b. befor 1060, d. 1086
6478. ?
6479. ?
6480. Henri de Bourgogne, b. 1035, d. 1065/77
6481. Sibylle de Barcelona, d. after 1074
6482. Alfonso VI, Rey de Leon y Castilla, b. 1040, d.1 109
6483. Agnes de Aquitaine, b. 1052, d. ca. 1079
6484. Umberto II, Conde de Savoya, d. 1103
6485. ?
6488. Ramon Berengar II, Conde de Barcelona, b. 1055, d. 1082
6489. Matilda of Apulia and Calabria (Guiscard)
6490. ?
It's somewhat unfinished in the Iberian and Brandenburg/Sachsen lines, but
this should be well known stuff.
Regards
Frank H. Johansen
D. Spencer Hines
Frank H. Johansen wrote:
>
> Here's a some of the ancestry (the first 12 generations) of Agnes
> Alvsdatter Bolt, b. 1398, d. 1472. She's mentioned in Gerald Paget's
> "Lineage and Ancestry of the Prince of Wales" [Edinburgh: Skilton, 1973] on
> page 294 as Prince Charles ancestor number Q1442. None of her ancestors are
> mentioned in this book.
> One can draw lines back to the old Norwegian, Danish and Swedish Viking
> Kings, aswell as several lines to Charlemagne
>
> 1. Agnes Alvsadatter BOLT, b. 1398, d. 1472
>
Good Stuff. Thanks.
Unfortunately, I don't have access to Paget, as I suspect many others do
not.
Could you please show the linkage to Prince Charles from Agnes BOLT, or
at least to some well-known figure, whom we can link to Prince Charles
on our own?
--
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Yale University Press, New Haven, 1996, Document 94, "Letter to Molotov
for Politburo Members, pp. 152-155.
Håvard Moe
"Frank H. Johansen" <frank.j...@hm.telia.no> wrote:
>Here's a some of the ancestry (the first 12 generations) of Agnes
>Alvsdatter Bolt, b. 1398, d. 1472. She's mentioned in Gerald Paget's
>"Lineage and Ancestry of the Prince of Wales" [Edinburgh: Skilton, 1973] on
>page 294 as Prince Charles ancestor number Q1442. None of her ancestors are
>mentioned in this book.
>One can draw lines back to the old Norwegian, Danish and Swedish Viking
>Kings, aswell as several lines to Charlemagne
I will comment only on the norwegian lines here.
>
> 12. Sigurd Haftorsson, Baron of Sudreim, Giske and Bjarkey, b. 1315, d.
> 1392
From what I've seen he d. 1402.
> 13. Ingeborg Erlingsdatter of Giske and Bjarkey
A decendant of Tore Hund ("Dog") of Bjarkøy, one of the slayers of St.
Olav at Stiklestad in 1030.
> 24. Haftore Jonsson, Baron of Sudreim, b. 1270, d. 1320
> 25. Agnes Haakonsdatter of Norway [Illegtim]
> 48. Jon the Red Ivarsson, Baron of Sudreim, f. ca. 1240
d. aft jun 1312
> 49. N. (Elin?) Haakonsdatter of Oslo
I haven't seen the mother of Hafthor mentioned, what are your
references to this? I won't comment this line as it is new to me.
References?
> 50. Haakon V, King of Norway, b. 1270, d. 1319
> 51. Katharina Sigurdsdatter
I haven't seen the mother of Agnes ever mentioned, what are your
references to this?
> 96. Ivar Olavsson, Baron of Sudreim, mentioned 1224
Every reference I have seen list Ivar, son of Jon at Sudreim (ment.
1240), as the father of Jon Ivarsson "Raud". Do you have any sources
to this? I also wonder where the lineage from Sudreim back to Håkon
Ivarson Jarl is from. As far as I know there are no known ancestors of
Jon at Sudreim.
> 97. Ragnhild Alvsadtter of Tornberg (in Östfold in Sothern Norway)
I haven't seen the mother of Jon ever mentioned, what are your
references to this?
> 100. Magnus "the Lawpatcher" (that means he didn't make the laws, the just
> patched togeather the different lawbooks of Norway to a national lawbok),
> King of Norway, b. 1238, d. 1280
> 101. Ingeborg of Denmark, d. 1287
> 192. Olav Mok, Baron of Sudreim, ment. 1224
See my comment on 96. Can Olav Mok be connected to Sudreim? Where is
he mentioned 1224?
> 193. N. Dagsdatter of Saksvik
> 200. Haakon IV Haakonsson, b. postom. 1204, d. 1263 [see #82]
> 201. Margrethe Skulesdatter of Rein
> 202. Erik "Plovpennig", King of Denmark, b. 1216, d. 1250
> 203. Jutta von Brandenburg und Sachsen
Daughter of Albrecht II von Sachsen and Agnes von Österreich.
>
> 384. [Assumed:] Ivar Aalesson, Baron of Sudreim
See my comment on 96 and 192. Can Ivar Åleson be connected to Sudreim?
Where?
> 386. Dag Kaaresson of Saksvik (in Tröndelag in Middle Norway)
He was son of Kåre "Kongsbror" at Austråt, son of Sakse in Vik. The
mother of Dag Kåresson was Borghild, daughter of Dag Eilivsson and
Ragnhild, daughter of Skofte Ogmundsson. What kind of references do
you have to the Dagsdotter m. Olav Mok?
> 400. Haakon III Sverresson, King of Norway, b. ca. 1173, d. 1204
> 401. Inga of Varteig, see #82
> 402. Skule Jarl Baardsson, later the first norwegian duke or "hertug"
> 403. Ragnhild Nikolasdatter of Giske
> 404. Valdemar II the Victorer, King of Denmark, b. 1170, d. 1241
> 405. Berengaria/Bengerd of Portugal, b. 1194, d. 1221
>
> 768. Aale Varg, Baron of Sudreim
See my comment on 96/192/384. Can Åle Varg be connected to Sudreim?
Where?
> 769. A daughter of King Harald Gille of Norway
I hav not found any daughter of Harald Gille connected to Åle Varg.
Reference?
> 800. Sverre Sigurdsson, King of Norway, b. ca. 1151, d. 1202
> 801. Margareta Eriksdotter of Sweden
Sverre Sigurdsson was married twice. First with Astrid Roesdotter with
whom he had two sons (Sigurd and Håkon) and two daughters (Cecilie and
Ingebjørg). With Margareta of Sweden he had one daughter, Kristina,
later to be married with king Filip Simonsson of Sweden.
> 804. Baard Guttormsson, "Baron" of Rein
> 805. Rangdid Erlingsdatter of Kvie
> 806. Nikolas Paalsson, "Baron" of Giske
Known as Nikolas Kuvung, b. abt 1140, d. abt 1217
> 808. Valdemar I the Great, King of Denmark, b. 1131, d. 1182
> 809. Sophie Wolodarovna of Minsk, b. 1141, d. 1198
> 810. Sancho I Martino, Rey de Portugal, b. 1154, d. 1212
> 811. Dulcia of Aragon and Barcelona, b. 1160, d. 1198
>
> 1536. [Assumed:] Ivar Haakonsson, Baron of Sudreim
See my comment on 96/192/384/768. Can Ivar Håkonsson be connected to
Sudreim? Where?
> 1538. Harald Gille, King of Norway, d. 1136
> 1539. One of his mistresses
> 1600. [Assumed:] Sigurd Haraldsson, King in Norway. Sverre claimed to be
> his son, and he truly believed it himself. But it has never been proven.
> And it can never be proven neither that he was nor that he was not.
> 1601. A woman from the Faeroys.
Acctually Ireland or "Sudrøyane" (Orkneys, Shetland and the Hebrid
islands).
> 1608. Guttorm Aasulvsson, "Baron" of Rein
> 1609. Bergljot Sveinsdatter
Guttorm Åsulvsson of Rein was married three times. First with Bergljot
Sveinsdotter, second with Sigrid Torkjellsdotter and last with Eldrid,
dt. of Joan Smørbalte. I have recorded Eldrid as the mother of Bård
Guttormsson. Reference?
> 1610. Erling of Kvie in Valdres in Middle Norway
> 1612. Paal Skoftesson, "Baron" of Giske
> 1613. Sigrid Torkelsdatter of Fosen
I have recorded the mother of Nikolas Kuvung as Ragnhild. Do you have
any references?
> 3072. Haakon Ivarrson of Sudreim, Jarl (= "Earl") (in Norway, they weren't
> necesseraly Jarl/Earl "of Somwhere". Usually, it was just one "Jarl" at the
> time, and it was a kind of semi-heridatry-elective title. Sudreim is in
> Romerike in Southern Norway.
Can Håkon Ivarsson Jarl be connected to Sudreim? I do have problems
with the Sudreim-line you have given here. Can it be documented?
> 3073. Ragnhild Magnusdatter of Norway [Illegitim]
> 3076. Magnus "with the naked feat", King of Norway, b. 1073, d. 1103.
Aka Magnus Berrføtt (Bare-feet)
> 3077. One of his mistresses.
> 3216. Aasulv Skulesson, "Baron" of Rein
> 3217. Tora Skoftesdatter of Giske
> 3218. Svein Haraldsson, a pretender to the Norwegian throne
> 3219. ?
> 3220. Ketil Vilhjalmsson of Torgar in Middle Norway
> 3221. ?
> 3224. Skofte Ogmundsson, "Baron" of Giske, the first Norwegian Cruciader,
> d. 1100 in the Holy Land
> 3225. Ranghild Paalsdatter of the Orkneys
I have recorded the mother of Pål Skoftesson as Gudrun Tordsdotter,
daughter of Tord Foleson. What references do you have?
> 6144. Ivar the White Jarnskjeggesson, mentioned 1024
Who is Jarnskjegge?
> 6145. Tora Amundsdatter
I haven't seen her mentioned. Reference?
> 6146. Magnus the Good, King of Norway
> 6147. Bergljot Halfdansdatter of Ringerike
I haven't seen her mentioned. Reference?
> 6152. Olav III Kyrre, King of Norway, d. 1093
> 6153. Ingrid Svendsdatter of Denmark
The identity of the mother of Marnus Berrføtt is disputed. It is
though pretty sure that she wasn't Ingrid of Denmark but a mistress,
probably named Tora. Snorri, Hrokkinskinna and Ryggjarstykket names
her Tora Jonsdotter. Morkinskinna og Fagerskinna names her Tora
Arnesdotter. Most likely is a daughter of Ragnvald Jarl, mistress of
Olav Kyrre and later married with Ljot Jarl at Godøy. Ragnvald Jarl is
assumed to be identic with Ragnvald Brusesson Orkenøyjarl, son of
Bruse, Jarl of the Orkneys and hence great-grandson of Malcom II
MacKenneth of Scotland.
> 6432. Skule Tostigsson of Northumbria, "Baron" of Rein in Tröndelag in
> Middle Norway. Son of Tostig Godwinesson, Earl of Northumbria (brother of
> Harold Godwinesson) and Judith of Flanders
> 6433. Gudrun Nevsteinsdatter
> 6436. Harald Torkelsson
> 6437. Torbjörg Haakonsdatter of Sudreim, daughter of #3072 and #3073
> 6440. Vilhjalm Ketilsson of Torgar, nephew of #6433, d. 1138
> 6441. Jartrud Jonsdatter of Bjarkey in Northern Norway (for a long time,
> Bjarkey was Norway's most northern outpost)
What references do you have to the relation between Vilhjalm and his
aunt, and to the marriange/offspring of Vilhjalm and Jartrud?
> 6448. Ogmund Torbergsson, "Baron of Giske"
> 6449. Aalov Tordsdatter
I haven't seen the mother of Skofte mentioned, what are your
references to this?
---
Håvard Moe
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Alan Beattie
There is a Shetland family of Bolt which were very powerful in the
Medieval period and supposedly from the Norwegian family.
Are there any mentions of Shetland connections in the Norwegian records?
--
Alan Beattie
Looking for ancestors from Shetland - ARTHUR, BEATTIE, BLANCE, GRAHAM, IRVINE,
and from Sussex - EDWARDS, MEWETT, TESTER, TODMAN, KILNER.