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Thomas Bradley 1633 of VA, son of Thomas Bradley DD, desc. of Edward III

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Richard Bradley

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May 4, 2007, 9:30:22 PM5/4/07
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Regarding the previous comments on this list, I am actively researching this family and I am a descendent of Thomas Bradley of New Kent County, VA. So, yes there are possibly thousands of unknowing descendents of the Plantagenet line in the US. The Thomas Bradley in New Kent County fits the time period for a birth of 1633 and he seems to be of the right class (some say he was a burgess but I have not been able to prove this).
However, I have found no definite proof. One problem is that I cannot find the will of Thomas Bradley DD, supposedly dated about 1673, which might have given more information about his son in America. Brothwick does not have it and Canterbury does not have it indexed.

As stated on this list, the coat of Arms registered by Thomas Bradley in Yorkshire refers for proof to the Visitations of Berkshire. However, a later compilation (in the 1800's) of the Berkshire Visitations, repeats the Yorkshire information but notes it was not found in the original Berkshire at all but was included because of the reference. Interestingly, a Roger de Bradley had a similar coat of arms in the late 1300's but I don't have his descendents. Also, someone working on Lincolnshire genealogies in the 1800's tied the genealogy of Thomas Bradley DD into the Bradleys of Louth but it seems to be a false linking.

I would really like to prove the link between the Rev. Thomas Bradley DD and the Thomas Bradley of New Kent, VA but it may ultimately prove impossible in Virginia because New Kent and subsequent counties had all their records burned. Any proof will come from English (likely Yorkshire) records.

But if the link can be proven, it is a fascinating gateway to the Beauforts, the letter writing Paston family, Robin Hood!!!, John of Gaunt, Edward III, and Melusine (do you know this reference?)

The only remaining question is -- How many descendents of the Plantagenets, Tudors, Stuarts, and the Windsors have to be eliminated so I can take my rightful place as the King of England?

WJhonson

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May 4, 2007, 9:55:45 PM5/4/07
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I have precedence over you and I shant tell you where I live.

John Townsend

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May 5, 2007, 7:40:59 AM5/5/07
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Some us missed the earlier post about Thomas Bradley. Where did this Thomas
Bradley DD die? The will (about 1673?) may have been proved in a provincial
court. Remember also there were administrations in P.C.C. as well as wills,
and these are not indexed in Documents Online.

Regards,

John Townsend
Antiquarian Bookseller/Genealogist
http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk


Brad Verity

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May 6, 2007, 3:43:22 PM5/6/07
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On May 4, 6:30 pm, "Richard Bradley" <rbraba...@msn.com> wrote:

> Regarding the previous comments on this list, I am actively researching this family and I am a descendent of Thomas Bradley of New Kent County, VA. So, yes there are possibly thousands of unknowing descendents of the Plantagenet line in the US. The Thomas Bradley in New Kent County fits the time period for a birth of 1633 and he seems to be of the right class (some say he was a burgess but I have not been able to prove this).

Dear Richard,

Thanks for posting to the newsgroup. You'll find it can be a great
resource, not just of information, but as a forum to bounce an idea
off of, as there are several experts and logical minds among the
posters.

Perhaps a summary of what you have researched so far on your Thomas
Bradley of New Kent County would be helpful. When does he appear in
records?, etc.

> However, I have found no definite proof. One problem is that I cannot find the will of Thomas Bradley DD, supposedly dated about 1673, which might have given more information about his son in America. Brothwick does not have it and Canterbury does not have it indexed.

Late 19th-century genealogist John W. Clay, in his 'Additions to
Dugdale's Visitation', makes no mention of a will for Rev. Bradley, so
he never came across one. But that may only mean it was never
published, not that there never was one.

> As stated on this list, the coat of Arms registered by Thomas Bradley in Yorkshire refers for proof to the Visitations of Berkshire. However, a later compilation (in the 1800's) of the Berkshire Visitations, repeats the Yorkshire information but notes it was not found in the original Berkshire at all but was included because of the reference. Interestingly, a Roger de Bradley had a similar coat of arms in the late 1300's but I don't have his descendents. Also, someone working on Lincolnshire genealogies in the 1800's tied the genealogy of Thomas Bradley DD into the Bradleys of Louth but it seems to be a false linking.

Rev. Thomas himself, in 1665, didn't seem to know his ancestry past
his grandfather John Bradley, who was a Yorkshire soldier in Henry
VIII's army.

> I would really like to prove the link between the Rev. Thomas Bradley DD and the Thomas Bradley of New Kent, VA but it may ultimately prove impossible in Virginia because New Kent and subsequent counties had all their records burned. Any proof will come from English (likely Yorkshire) records.

There are two ladies, Vickie Elam White and MichaelAnne Guido, who are
well-versed in colonial Virginia genealogy and who may have some
suggestions for you. They only post here occasionally, but perhaps
they will come across these posts.

> But if the link can be proven, it is a fascinating gateway to the Beauforts, the letter writing Paston family, Robin Hood!!!, John of Gaunt, Edward III, and Melusine (do you know this reference?)

I don't know the Melusine reference, and wasn't aware Robin Hood's
identity had been determined.

> The only remaining question is -- How many descendents of the Plantagenets, Tudors, Stuarts, and the Windsors have to be eliminated so I can take my rightful place as the King of England?

I think if all of the descendants of Henry VII are eliminated, the
next in line is in Australia, or something like that.

Cheers, --------------Brad

Don Stone

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May 10, 2007, 7:33:33 PM5/10/07
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Richard Bradley wrote:
> The only remaining question is -- How many descendents of the Plantagenets, Tudors, Stuarts, and the Windsors have to be eliminated so I can take my rightful place as the King of England?

Sorry, you're not even on the list of possible successors, due to the
Act of Settlement 1701 (unless you're a Protestant descendant of
Electress Sophia of Hanover).

-- Don Stone

WJhonson

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May 11, 2007, 12:02:31 AM5/11/07
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<<In a message dated 05/10/07 16:35:34 Pacific Standard Time, don....@verizon.net writes:
Sorry, you're not even on the list of possible successors, due to the
Act of Settlement 1701 (unless you're a Protestant descendant of
Electress Sophia of Hanover). >>


See! They stole the county then they rewrote the rules!
Nice trick, those Germans pulled.
Will Johnson

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