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Tony Hoskins

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Apr 4, 2006, 8:28:19 PM4/4/06
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Hello Renia,

Although the follwing is from 1660, it might be of interest. I will
look further in re: the cost at the title's inception in 1611.

This, from Peps' _Diary_:

Friday 22 June 1660 To my Lord, where much business. With him to White
Hall, where the Duke of York not being up, we walked a good while in the
Shield Gallery. Mr. Hill (who for these two or three days hath
constantly attended my Lord) told me of an offer of 500l. for a
Baronet's dignity, which I told my Lord of in the balcone in this
gallery, and he said he would think of it.
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Chris Dickinson

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Apr 4, 2006, 9:03:25 PM4/4/06
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Anthony Hoskins wrote:


>Friday 22 June 1660 To my Lord, where much business. With him to White
>Hall, where the Duke of York not being up, we walked a good while in the
>Shield Gallery. Mr. Hill (who for these two or three days hath
>constantly attended my Lord) told me of an offer of 500l. for a
>Baronet's dignity, which I told my Lord of in the balcone in this
>gallery, and he said he would think of it.


Not very much!

I'm just beginning to look at a marriage contract dated 1653 between two
yeomen, in which £400 is being exchanged [one of them is John Steele, one of
John Steele Gordon's ancestors, admittedly a rich yeoman!].

This sounds to me as though the £500 is an introductory price, just to get
the Duke to sniff in the right direction. Unless in 1660 no-one wanted
baronetcies because they thought other titles would come flooding through,
or so many baronetcies had been created already that their value had
collapsed.


Chris


Nathaniel Taylor

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Apr 4, 2006, 9:50:41 PM4/4/06
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In article <s432aca7.076@CENTRAL_SVR2>,

hos...@sonoma.lib.ca.us ("Tony Hoskins") wrote:

> Hello Renia,
>
> Although the follwing is from 1660, it might be of interest. I will
> look further in re: the cost at the title's inception in 1611.
>
> This, from Peps' _Diary_:
>
> Friday 22 June 1660 To my Lord, where much business. With him to White
> Hall, where the Duke of York not being up, we walked a good while in the
> Shield Gallery. Mr. Hill (who for these two or three days hath
> constantly attended my Lord) told me of an offer of 500l. for a
> Baronet's dignity, which I told my Lord of in the balcone in this
> gallery, and he said he would think of it.

Derek Hirst, _Authority and Conflict: England, 1603-1758_ (Harvard UP,
1986), 113, says the first grants (1611) were against payment of L 1095;
"By 1614, baronetcies had brought in over L 90,000."

Elsewhere (Wikipedia, alas) I see the fee explained as the equivalent of
3 years' pay for 30 men-at-arms at 8d per day per man, but it adds up to
the same.

Nat Taylor

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http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

my children's 17th-century American immigrant ancestors:
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