Bruce of Airth: A Royal Descent from Robert III, King of Scots
The...@aol.com
Hello Suzanne, et al.,
In a previous thread [1], I queried whether anyone of the list had
further documentation concerning the family of Bruce of Airth, co.
Stirling. Specifically, the question was as to the identification of the
wife of Sir Robert Bruce of Airth (d. ca. 1519) as a daughter of
Alexander Montgomery, Master of Montgomery (d.ca. 1470) and Catherine
Kennedy in Scots Peerage [2].
Major William Bruce Armstrong concluded a long-term research effort
with the privately published work, The Bruces of Airth and Their Cadets.
As he determined, the details in the secondary source (the 'Memorials')
used in Scots Peerage identifying this individual as 'Helen Montgomery'
and her spouse as 'Sir James Bruce' were in error, but the placement was
correct: in fact, the daughter's name was Euphemia, or Euphame
Montgomery, and her husband was the Sir Robert Bruce of Airth in
question [3].
This descent obviously includes additional lines from Charlemagne,
Henry I of England (via Robert, Earl of Gloucester), and several Magna
Carta sureties (incl. Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester). Amongst the
identifiable individuals whose ancestry is affected by the above:
1. Alexander Hamilton, emigrant to New York (ca. 1774),
Signer of the U.S. Consitution, 1st Secretary of the
Treasury (d. 12 July 1804)
2. Sir Patrick Houstoun, 5th Baronet, emigrant to Georgia
(1734), President of the Royal Council of Georgia (d. 1762)
3. Robert Livingston, emigrant to Boston (1673; later, New
York), of Livingston Manor; speaker of the New York
legislature, 1718-1725
~ and thereby, Presidents George H. W. Bush and George
W. Bush of the United States.
4. Daniel Roberdeau, emigrant to Pennsylvania (ca. 1742),
merchant, Brigadier General of the Pennsylvania Associators,
member, 2nd Continental Congress, Signer of the Articles
of Confederation (d. 1795)
Hope this is of interest.
Cheers,
John *
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PEDIGREE from King Robert III of Scots to Elizabeth Livingston,
wife of Gabriel Cunyngham, laird of Craigends
1 Robert III of Scotland
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Birth: 1337
Death: 4 Apr 1406, Dundonald Castle, Carrick (co. Ayr)[1]
Burial: Paisley Abbey, co. Renfrew[1]
Occ: King of Scots 1390-1406
Father: Robert II of Scotland (1315-1390), King of Scots
Mother: Elizabeth Mure (-<1355), dau. of Adam Mure of Rowallan
John
given as hostage for the release of King David II (replaced
by his brother Walter, June 1358 - Foedera VI:91[2] ]
created Earl of Carrick 22 Jun 1368[1]
succeeded his father as King of Scots (Robert III), 1390 - 1406
cf. Scots Peerage (Kings of Scots)[1]
Thompson and Hansen 6(2):150-1 #576[3]
Spouse: Annabela Drummond
Father: Sir John Drummond (->1360), laird of Stobhall and Cargill
Mother: Mary de Montfichet
Marr: 13 Mar 1365, date of dispensation[4]
Children: Margaret (-<1456)
David (1378-dvp1402), Duke of Rothesay
James I, King of Scots (k. 1437)
Robert (-<1406)
Princess Mary (->1431)
Elizabeth
1.1a Princess Mary Stewart*
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Death: aft 1431
she m. 1st George Douglas, 1st Earl of Angus,
2nd Sir James Kennedy[1]
Spouse: Sir James Kennedy, laird of Dunure
Father: Gilbert Kennedy
Mother: Agnes Maxwell
Marr: 1405
Children: John
Gilbert (->1478)
James (-1466), Bishop of St. Andrews
Other Spouses George Douglas, 1st husband
1.1a.1 Gilbert Kennedy
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Death: aft 6 Mar 1478[1]
Occ: Lord Kennedy
laird of Dunure
succeeded either grandfather or elder brother John
created 1st Lord Kennedy, 20 March 1457/58[1]
an instrument taken by Alexander Bruce, procurator alleging Robert,
Lord Fleming was infeft with the 40 merk land of Kirkintilloch
(and not Gilbert, Lord Kennedy), 'done in the Justiced Court of
Dunbritton before John, Earl of Argyle, Lord Campbell, and Robert,
Lord Boyd, Justices upon the south side of Forth, dated 15th
February 1461.' Witnesses: Alexander, Lord Montgomery; Robert,
Lord Maxwell; John Stewart, Lord Darnley; Alexander Cunyngham,
Lord Kilmaurs; William 'of Douglas;' Sir John Houstoun of that Ilk,
Sir William Sympill, knights [Charter Chest/Wigtown p. 7, no. 31[5]]
close associate of King James III (and his brother James Kennedy,
Bishop of St. Andrews)
(cf. Scots Peerage, sub Kennedy, Earl of Cassilis, for full career[1])
Spouse: Katherine Maxwell
Father: Herbert Maxwell (-<1453)
Mother: NN Herries
Marr: abt 1440[1]
Children: Catherine
NN
John (-<1509), 2nd Lord Kennedy
1.1a.1.1 Catherine Kennedy
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'Catherine, daughter of Gilbert Lord Kennedy ' [SP III:432[1] ]
Re: her husband, Alexander Montgomery:
Master of Montgomery
succeeded his father, but d. before his grandfather Alexander, Lord
Montgomery
cf. SP III:432[1]
Spouse: Alexander Montgomery, Master of Montgomery
Birth: bef Jul 1445[1]
Death: abt 1470[1]
Father: Alexander Montgomery (-1452), Master of Montgomery
Mother: Elizabeth Hepburn
Marr: bef 1459[1]
Children: Hugh (<1463-<1545), Earl of Eglinton
Euphemia
John, 'procurator ' for his sister Euphemia Montgomery
in re: the lands of Baldoran, 1508 [6]
James (->1516)
Marjory
1.1a.1.1.1 Euphemia Montgomery
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also, Euphame
'Robert Brus and Euphame Montgomery his spouse', had charter from Patrick
Colquhoun of Glen, of lands in Wester Baldorane in the earldom of Lennox,
dated Baldorane, 24 Oct 1496
[Armstrong p. xiv, cites Ex Acta Dom. Conc.,
vol. xxxii. fol. 148, 18 March 1519[6] ]
' Instrument of Resignation of Robert Bruce of Erth, knight, and John
Montgomery, procurator of Euphemia Montgomery, spouse to Sir
Robert Bruce of Erth, of the lands of Baldoran, into the hands of
George Colquhoun of Glen, their superior, in favour of Sir Robert
Bruce, and Euphemia his wife. Given in the chamber of the Earl of
Levenax, at Holyrood, 25 April 1508. '
' Precept of Seisin by Mathew earl of Levenax and lord Darnley,
in favour of Robert Bruce of Airth, knight, and Euphemia Montgomery
his spouse, of the lands of Baldoran. Dated 26 April 1508. '
[ 'Fine seal of the Earl of Lennox attached.'
Armstrong p. xxxv - Blair Writs[6] ]
' Precept of Seisin, by Thomas Dunlop of Auchenskaith, and Marion
Lindsay his spouse, in favour of Robert Bruce of Airth, knight, and
Euphemia Montgomery his spouse, of the lands of Dunlopisland,
following on previous charter, dated 9 October 1511. Witnessed
by James Montgomery, brother-german to Hugh, Earl of Eglintoun.'
[Armstrong p. xxxvi - Blair Writs[6] ]
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Memorials record (cited in SP) correct as to her parentage, but not her
name:
' Helen, said to have been married to Sir James Bruce of Airth ', daughter
of Alexander Montgomery and Catherine Kennedy his wife
[SP III:433, sub Montgomery, Earl of Eglinton, citing Memorials i.27][1]
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re: her husband, Sir Robert Bruce:
knt., of Airth
adherent of the party of Prince James (later James IV), the castle of
Airth was attacked in 1488 by royal forces:
' In 1488-89 he had a precept for a certain sum in the Lord Treasurer's
accounts "to the byggin of his place of Ercht that was byrnt, c ti"
before the battle of Sauchie by the forces of James III. '
[Armstrong p. 13; p. xv, cites Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer
of Scotland, vol. i. 1473 to 1498, p. 90[6] ]
served heir to his father, 8 Oct 1488 [precept of Archibald, abbot
of Holyrood concerning the 6 oxgates of 'Erth' - Armstrong, p. xxxii[6]]
had a charter from King James IV dated 29 June 1489, confirming
the charter of James II to his grandfather Alexander Bruce[6]
'Robert Brois of Arthe', party to the concord with William Mentieth
of Kerse and his other uncles concerning the murder of his father,
as appointed by the Lords of Council at Edinburgh, 18 Oct 1490
[Armstrong, pp. xi-xii[6] ]
'Robert Brus and Euphame Montgomery his spouse', had charter from Patrick
Colquhoun of Glen, of lands in Wester Baldorane in the earldom of Lennox,
dated Baldorane, 24 Oct 1496
[Armstrong p. xiv, cites Ex Acta Dom. Conc., vol. xxxii. fol. 148,
18 March 1519[6] ]
' Instrument of Resignation of Robert Bruce of Erth, knight, and John
Montgomery, procurator of Euphemia Montgomery, spouse to Sir
Robert Bruce of Erth, of the lands of Baldoran, into the hands of
George Colquhoun of Glen, their superior, in favour of Sir Robert
Bruce, and Euphemia his wife. Given in the chamber of the Earl of
Levenax, at Holyrood, 25 April 1508. '
' Precept of Seisin by Mathew earl of Levenax and lord Darnley,
in favour of Robert Bruce of Airth, knight, and Euphemia Montgomery
his spouse, of the lands of Baldoran. Dated 26 April 1508. '
[ 'Fine seal of the Earl of Lennox attached.' Armstrong p. xxxv,
Blair Writs[6] ]
also said to have fallen at Flodden, 9 Sept 1513
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called 'James' in the Memorials record, in error
[SP III:433, sub Montgomery, Earl of Eglinton][1]
Spouse: Sir Robert Bruce, laird of Airth[1]
Birth: bef 8 Oct 1467[6]
Death: ca 1519
Father: John Bruce (-1483), Master of Airth
Mother: Elizabeth Menteith, dau. of William Mentieth of Kerse
Children: Janet (->1545)
Robert (->1548), laird of Airth
John (-<1513)
Isobel
1.1a.1.1.1.1 Janet Bruce
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Death: aft 2 Aug 1545[1]
' Janet, daughter of Sir Robert Bruce of Airth '
[SP: Livingston of Kilsyth[1] ]
granted ward and marriage of grandson William Livingston, minor but
recognized as laird of Kilsyth, 2 Aug 1545 [1]
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re: her husband:
of Kilsyth, co. Stirling
agreed to enfeoff his mother 'in the lands of Middlethird of
Glasford', 1 July 1506 (Livingston, p. 212)[7]
' served heir to the lands of Castletoun and Balmalloch in
the barony of Callendar, on 15 March 1513-14, by
Alexander, Master of Livingston, who gave him sasine with his
own hands 'as son and heir of the late William Livingston of
Kilsyth, who had died under the king's banner in battle in
Northumberland--qui obiit sub vexillo Regis in campo bellico
apud Northumberland.'[7]
Spouse: William Livingston, laird of Kilsyth
Death: bef 21 Jul 1545[1],[7]
Father: William Livingston (-1513), laird of Kilsyth
Mother: Elizabeth Graham, dau. of Patrick, lst Lord Graham
Marr: 16 Oct 1504[1]
Children: William (-<1539), Master of Kilsyth
Alexander (-<1564), laird of Over and Nether Inches
Robert
James
John
Elizabeth (?1518-)
Isabel
Margaret
1.1a.1.1.1.1.1 Elizabeth Livingston
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Birth: ? 1518
called Elizabeth in Scots Peerage (Livingston, Viscount Kilsyth, p.188) [1]
' Margaret Livingston, daughter to Kilsyth, by Lady Margaret Graham *,
daughter to the Earl of Monteith ' Cunyngham MS[8]
* her name was Elizabeth; confused with later marriage of the
daughter/sister of the Earl of Mentieth to a descendant of William
Livingston of Kilsyth (d. 1545)[1]
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re: her husband Gabriel Cunyngham, laird of Craigends:
of Craigends, co. Renfrew
probable minor at time of father's death, viz. mother's suit against
the Sempills, 17 Nov 1533[10]
' 18th. Gabriel the 3d, married Margaret Livingston, daughter to Kilsyth,
by Lady Margaret Graham, daughter to the Earl of Monteith;
had -
William; and
James, of Ashenyeards.' Cunyngham MS.[8]
Spouse: Gabriel Cunyngham, 3rd laird of Craigends, co. Renfrew
Birth: ? 1515
Death: 10 Sep 1547, Battle of Pinkie Cleugh[8]
Father: William Cunyngham (<1496-1533), laird of Craigends
Mother: Giles Campbell (<1496-), dau. of George, laird of Loudoun
Children: Elizabeth
William (-<1568), laird of Craigends, co. Renfrew
James (->1593), laird of Ashinyards, co. Ayr
Janet (-1607), m. Sir Patrick Houstoun of that Ilk
1. "The Scots Peerage," Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., 1904-1914 (9 vols).
2. Thomas Rymer, ed., "Foedera, Conventiones, Literae, et Cujuscunque
Generis Acta Publica," Editio Secunda: London: J. Tonson, 1727,
Vol VI (p. 584), Vol VI:41, letter of safeconduct from Robert the
Stewart to Berwick (1357).
3. Neil D Thompson and Charles M Hansen, ""A Medieval Heritage: The
Ancestry of Charles II, King of England"," The Genealogist, 2:157-168,
3:25-44, 3:175-194, 4:144-158, 5:64-72, 5:226-239, 6:100-103,
6:148-165,, 7-8:137-143, 9:40-44, 10:73-85, 11:63-72, 11:184-193,
12:83-90, 12:250-256, 13:92-99, 13:252-256, 14:81-84, 14:207-210,
15:99-103, 15:220-224, 16:93-98, 16:227-231, 17:61-64, a graphical
summary of this ambitious project provided by the Foundation for
Medieval Genealogy, URL: http://fmg.ac/Projects/CharlesII/
4. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D.,
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 5th ed., 1997
(W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
5. "Charter Chest of the Earldom of Wigtown, 1214-1681," Anonymous,
Edinburgh: Printed for the Society by J. Skinner & Co., 1910,
.pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com.
6. "The Bruces of Airth and Their Cadets," Major William Bruce Armstrong,
Edinburgh: privately printed, 1892.
7. The Livingstons of Callendar and their Principal Cadets: The history
of an old Stirlingshire family, "Edwin Brockholst Livingston
(Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, 1920)," .pdf images provided by
Genealogy.com http://www.genealogy.com/
re: the Livingstons of Kilsyth (cf. Chapter IX, THE LIVINGSTONS,
VISCOUNTS OF KILSYTH), pp. 210 et seq.
8. "Genealogy of the Roberdeau Family," Roberdeau Buchanan, Washington:
Joseph L. Pearson, Printer, 1876, 19, 21, incorporates the Robert
Cunyngham MS, entitled 'Genologie of the Right Honorable The Earl of
Glencairn's Family', dated ca. 1710 with updated information to 20
October 1740, pages 10-24 of this publication.
9. "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages," Burke's Peerage,
from Genealogy.com Family History: Notable British Families, p. 460
(Ros).
10. "Archaeological and Historical Collections rel. to the County of
Renfrew," Paisley: Alexander Gardner, 1890 (2 Volumes), Vol. I,
pp. 160-163; Vol. II, pp. 18-45.
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NOTES TO POST:
[1] John P. Ravilious, <Bruce of Airth: Possible Descent from
Robert III (was: CP Correction...)>, SGM, 11 August 2003.
[2] SP III:432, which identifies one daughter as:
' iv. Helen, said to have been married to Sir James Bruce
of Airth. '
[3] Major William Bruce Armstrong, The Bruces of Airth and Their
Cadets (Edinburgh: privately published, 1892).
Among the records cited by Armstrong:
A. 'Robert Brus and Euphame Montgomery his spouse', had charter
from Patrick Colquhoun of Glen, of lands in Wester Baldorane
in the earldom of Lennox, dated Baldorane, 24 Oct 1496
[Armstrong p. xiv, cites Ex Acta Dom. Conc., vol. xxxii.
fol. 148, 18 March 1519 ]
B. ' Instrument of Resignation of Robert Bruce of Erth, knight,
and John Montgomery, procurator of Euphemia Montgomery,
spouse to Sir Robert Bruce of Erth, of the lands of
Baldoran, into the hands of George Colquhoun of Glen, their
superior, in favour of Sir Robert Bruce, and Euphemia his
wife. Given in the chamber of the Earl of Levenax, at
Holyrood, 25 April 1508. '
' Precept of Seisin by Mathew earl of Levenax and lord
Darnley, in favour of Robert Bruce of Airth, knight, and
Euphemia Montgomery his spouse, of the lands of Baldoran.
Dated 26 April 1508. '
['Fine seal of the Earl of Lennox attached.' Armstrong
p. xxxv - Blair Writs ]
' Precept of Seisin, by Thomas Dunlop of Auchenskaith, and
Marion Lindsay his spouse, in favour of Robert Bruce of
Airth, knight, and Euphemia Montgomery his spouse, of the
lands of Dunlopisland, following on previous charter, dated
9 October 1511. Witnessed by James Montgomery,
brother-german to Hugh, Earl of Eglintoun.'
[Armstrong, p. xxxvi - Blair Writs ]
* John P. Ravilious
Patricia Junkin
anyone seen any substantion for the marriage of Robert Bruce and Helen
Vipont b. c. 1310?
Pat
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>From: The...@aol.com
>To: GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
>Subject: Bruce of Airth: A Royal Descent from Robert III, King of Scots
>Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2003, 5:53 PM
John Ravilious
Dear Pat,
There are two 'traditional' known marriages for Robert _the_ Bruce:
that to Isabel of Mar (mother of Marjory), and the last, to Elizabeth de
Burgh, his Queen (and mother of David II).
There is the added marriage found by Douglas Richardson (see the SGM
archives), but that involved the FitzAlan family. Besides this and the
two marriages mentioned above, I am unaware of another other spouse of
the oft-married King Robert [although he did have a number of illegitimate
children].
Any chance the Vipont/Vieuxpont match you mentioned might involve
another Robert Bruce/de Brus?
Cheers,
John
paju...@erols.com ("Patricia Junkin") wrote in message news:<E1AK5Yl-...@smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net>...
> And into this well documented discussion, may I interject a question? Has
> anyone seen any substantion for the marriage of Robert Bruce and Helen
> Vipont b. c. 1310?
> Pat
>
> ----------
> >From: The...@aol.com
> >To: GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Bruce of Airth: A Royal Descent from Robert III, King of Scots
> >Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2003, 5:53 PM
> >
>
> > Wednesday, 12 November, 2003
> >
> >
> > Hello Suzanne, et al.,
> >
> > In a previous thread [1], I queried whether anyone of the list had
> > further documentation concerning the family of Bruce of Airth, co.
> > Stirling. Specifically, the question was as to the identification of the
> > wife of Sir Robert Bruce of Airth (d. ca. 1519) as a daughter of
> > Alexander Montgomery, Master of Montgomery (d.ca. 1470) and Catherine
> > Kennedy in Scots Peerage [2].
> >
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John Ravilious
Hello All,
The following is additional information with regard to the first post in
this thread.
A. The maritagium of Janet Bruce
As originally noted, Sir Robert Bruce of Airth and his wife Euphame
Montgomery had charters for lands in Baldorane as early as 1496 [1].
The account in SP for William Livingston does not directly address
lands received as the maritagium of Janet (or 'Jonet') Bruce, whom he
married under terms of a contract dated 16 October 1504 [2]. However,
the subsequent account of his career does state,
" He obtained possession of the lands of Baldorane by a charter
granted in his favour by Walter Stewart, dated 23 July 1524. " [3]
The lands of Baldorane evidently came to William Livingston as a
result of either prior agreement concerning his marriage, or due to the
death of Sir Robert Stewart and the administration of his estate. The
lands of Baldorane are next found in the hands of the 3rd son of William
Livingston and Janet Bruce, known as 'Robert of Baldoran' [4].
B. "The Bruces of Airth" and chronology
Maj. Armstrong did not have the benefit of access to Scots Peerage at
the time of printing his work in 1892. While in general, he did an excellent
job with the records at hand, he did rely on previous publications ["The
Bruces and Comyns", and "The Peerage of Scotland" by Douglas] that placed
Janet Bruce as the daughter of Sir John Bruce, and thereby as sister of Sir
Robert Bruce [5].
This was disproved by Balfour Paul, who noted same in the account of
William Livingston, citing "Protocol Book of James Young" and "Protocol
Book of John Graham" (the relevant entry from the latter being dated 21
July 1545) [6].
Hope the foregoing is helpful.
John
NOTES
[1] From Major William Bruce Armstrong, The Bruces of Airth and Their
Cadets (Edinburgh: privately published, 1892):
A. 'Robert Brus and Euphame Montgomery his spouse', had charter
from Patrick Colquhoun of Glen, of lands in Wester Baldorane
in the earldom of Lennox, dated Baldorane, 24 Oct 1496
[Armstrong p. xiv, cites Ex Acta Dom. Conc., vol. xxxii.
fol. 148, 18 March 1519 ]
B. ' Instrument of Resignation of Robert Bruce of Erth, knight,
and John Montgomery, procurator of Euphemia Montgomery,
spouse to Sir Robert Bruce of Erth, of the lands of
Baldoran, into the hands of George Colquhoun of Glen, their
superior, in favour of Sir Robert Bruce, and Euphemia his
wife. Given in the chamber of the Earl of Levenax, at
Holyrood, 25 April 1508. '
' Precept of Seisin by Mathew earl of Levenax and lord
Darnley, in favour of Robert Bruce of Airth, knight, and
Euphemia Montgomery his spouse, of the lands of Baldoran.
Dated 26 April 1508. '
['Fine seal of the Earl of Lennox attached.' Armstrong
p. xxxv - Blair Writs ]
[2] Scots Peerage, V:187, sub Livingston, Viscount Kilsyth
[3] Ibid., V:187, note 5, cites the collection known as 'Kilsyth Charters'.
[4] Ibid., V:188.
[5] Armstrong, p. 13.
[6] Scots Peerage, V:187, notes 9, 10.
The...@aol.com wrote in message news:<119.2b6c32...@aol.com>...
> Wednesday, 12 November, 2003
>
>
> Hello Suzanne, et al.,
>
> In a previous thread [1], I queried whether anyone of the list had
> further documentation concerning the family of Bruce of Airth, co.
> Stirling. Specifically, the question was as to the identification of the
> wife of Sir Robert Bruce of Airth (d. ca. 1519) as a daughter of
> Alexander Montgomery, Master of Montgomery (d.ca. 1470) and Catherine
> Kennedy in Scots Peerage [2].
>
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