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Mabel Falewell (living 1450), wife of William Fortescue and John Trumpyngdon, Gent.
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Douglas Richardson
Aug 27, 2014, 3:53:33 PM8/27/14
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Dear Newsgroup ~
Two 17th Century New World immigrants, Agnes (Harris) (Spencer) Edwards and Margaret (Wyatt) Allyn, descend from William Fortescue, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, who died sometime before 1440. Both immigrants have numerous American descendants.
Hingeston-Randolph, Register of Edmund Stafford (1886): 275 states that William and his wife, "Matilda, alias Mabilia," and his parents were granted a license for an oratory in 1410 by Edmund Stafford, Bishop of Exeter for his father's mansion at Whympton (in Modbury), Devon. This record may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=W8BgAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA275
Matilda is Latin for Maud and Mabilia is Latin for Mabel. Maud and Mabel are two different names. As such, the exact name of William Fortescue's wife has never been known.
Evidence that William Fortescue's wife was actually named Mabel is proven by a fine dated 1425, whereby Mabel's parents, John and Agnes Falewell, settled lands on themselves for life, with successive remainders on Mabel, wife of William Fortescue, and her heirs; George Denysyll [Densyll] and Agnes his wife and their heirs, and John Boson and his heirs. For an abstract of this important fine, see Chris Phillips' website at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html. Mabel's given name is also established by three later Common Pleas lawsuits cited below.
Mabel Fortescue and Agnes Densyll were evidently daughters and co-heirs of John and Agnes Falewell. John Boson, Esq., was evidently a nephew of John Falewell, which explains his inclusion in the remainders of the 1425 fine. John Boson, Esq., is a lineal ancestor of Anne Boleyn, Queen of England, wife of King Henry VIII of England.
That Mabel Falewell was an heiress is confirmed by Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
Following William Fortescue's death, his widow, Mabel, married (2nd) before 1440 (date of lawsuit) John Trumpyngdon, Gent., of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon. This marriage has never been noticed by any Fortescue family historians to my knowledge. In 1440 John Boson sued John and his wife, Mabel, acting as executors of William Fortescu, and two others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass. In 1450 John and his wife, Mabel, sued George Denyshull [Densyll] in the Court of Common Pleas in a writ of formedon descender regarding a half share in two messuages and lands in Ratley, Devon. In 1450 Joan Hille, executrix of John Boson, Esq., sued John and his wife, Mabel, "formerly the wife of William Fortescu" in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. John Trumpyngdon, Gent., was living in 1468.
I've copied below my current file account of William Fortescue and his wife, Mabel Falewell. For further information on the ancestry and descendants of William Fortescue, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, please see my book, Royal Ancestry [5 volume set], published in 2013.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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WILLIAM FORTESCUE, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, son and heir. He married before 17 Nov. 1410 (grant of oratory) MABEL FALEWELL (or FALEWYLL, VALEWYLL, VEALWYLLE), daughter and co-heiress of John Falewell, of Velwell (in Rattery), Devon, by his wife, Agnes. They had one son, John, Esq. He and his wife, Mabel, and his parents were granted a license for an oratory in 1410 by Edmund Stafford, Bishop of Exeter for his father's mansion at Whympton (in Modbury), Devon. He and his wife, Mabel, had license for divine service in their manor of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon 8 Nov. 1421. In 1425 John Falewill and Agnes his wife settled tenements in Northford (in Dartington), Week (in Dartington), Stancombe (in Sherford), Bowden (in Sherford), Higher Velwell (in Rattery), and Lower Velwell (in Rattery), Devon on themselves for life, with successive remainders on Mabel, wife of William Fortescue, and her heirs; George Denysyll [Densyll] and Agnes his wife and their heirs, and John Boson and his heirs. WILLIAM FORTESCUE died testate before 1440. His widow, Mabel, married (2nd) before 1440 (date of lawsuit) JOHN TRUMPYNGDON, Gent., of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon. In 1440 John Boson sued John and his wife, Mabel, acting as executors of William Fortescu, and two others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass. In 1450 John and his wife, Mabel, sued George Denyshull [Densyll] in the Court of Common Pleas in a writ of formedon descender regarding a half share in two messuages and lands in Ratley, Devon. In 1450 Joan Hille, executrix of John Boson, Esq., sued John and his wife, Mabel, "formerly the wife of William Fortescu" in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. JOHN TRUMPYNGDON, Gent., was living in 1468.
References:
Thomas Fortescue, Lord Clermont, Fam. Hist. of Fortescue in all its Branches (1869): 1-10. Hingeston-Randolph, Reg. of Edmund Stafford (1886): 271, 275, 282. Vivian, Vis. of Cornwall (1887):100 (Coryn ped.). Vivian, Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 352-367 (Fortescue ped.). Worthy, Devonshire Wills (1896): 456-468 (re. Fortescue fam.). Benolte, Vis. of Surrey 1530, 1572 & 1613 (H.S.P. 43) (1899): 14 (Fortescue ped.: "Willm. Fortescue of Wimston in com. Devon = Mabell d. of Wm. Wallwell.") (Fortescue arms: Azure, a bend engrailed argent, cotised or, within a bordure gobony of the second and first.). C.P.R. 1385-1389 (1900): 263. Genealogist 20 (1904): 88. C.P.R. 1391-1396 (1905): 674. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 451. Rpt. & Trans. Devonshire Assoc. 3rd Ser. 3 (1911): 207. Watkin, Hist. of Totnes Priory & Medieval Town, Devonshire 2 (1917): 757 (Boson ped.), 766 (author states Mabel, wife of Edmond Bosome, was most probably a daughter of John Falwell). C.F.R. 20 (1949): 230-231. Lacy, Reg. of Edmund Lacy 1 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 7) (1963): 88. Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/717, image 1479d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no717/bCP40no717dorses/IMG_1479.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758, image 622d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0622.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758, image 649d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0649.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/46/80, #35 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].
Two 17th Century New World immigrants, Agnes (Harris) (Spencer) Edwards and Margaret (Wyatt) Allyn, descend from William Fortescue, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, who died sometime before 1440. Both immigrants have numerous American descendants.
Hingeston-Randolph, Register of Edmund Stafford (1886): 275 states that William and his wife, "Matilda, alias Mabilia," and his parents were granted a license for an oratory in 1410 by Edmund Stafford, Bishop of Exeter for his father's mansion at Whympton (in Modbury), Devon. This record may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=W8BgAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA275
Matilda is Latin for Maud and Mabilia is Latin for Mabel. Maud and Mabel are two different names. As such, the exact name of William Fortescue's wife has never been known.
Evidence that William Fortescue's wife was actually named Mabel is proven by a fine dated 1425, whereby Mabel's parents, John and Agnes Falewell, settled lands on themselves for life, with successive remainders on Mabel, wife of William Fortescue, and her heirs; George Denysyll [Densyll] and Agnes his wife and their heirs, and John Boson and his heirs. For an abstract of this important fine, see Chris Phillips' website at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html. Mabel's given name is also established by three later Common Pleas lawsuits cited below.
Mabel Fortescue and Agnes Densyll were evidently daughters and co-heirs of John and Agnes Falewell. John Boson, Esq., was evidently a nephew of John Falewell, which explains his inclusion in the remainders of the 1425 fine. John Boson, Esq., is a lineal ancestor of Anne Boleyn, Queen of England, wife of King Henry VIII of England.
That Mabel Falewell was an heiress is confirmed by Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
Following William Fortescue's death, his widow, Mabel, married (2nd) before 1440 (date of lawsuit) John Trumpyngdon, Gent., of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon. This marriage has never been noticed by any Fortescue family historians to my knowledge. In 1440 John Boson sued John and his wife, Mabel, acting as executors of William Fortescu, and two others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass. In 1450 John and his wife, Mabel, sued George Denyshull [Densyll] in the Court of Common Pleas in a writ of formedon descender regarding a half share in two messuages and lands in Ratley, Devon. In 1450 Joan Hille, executrix of John Boson, Esq., sued John and his wife, Mabel, "formerly the wife of William Fortescu" in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. John Trumpyngdon, Gent., was living in 1468.
I've copied below my current file account of William Fortescue and his wife, Mabel Falewell. For further information on the ancestry and descendants of William Fortescue, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, please see my book, Royal Ancestry [5 volume set], published in 2013.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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WILLIAM FORTESCUE, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, son and heir. He married before 17 Nov. 1410 (grant of oratory) MABEL FALEWELL (or FALEWYLL, VALEWYLL, VEALWYLLE), daughter and co-heiress of John Falewell, of Velwell (in Rattery), Devon, by his wife, Agnes. They had one son, John, Esq. He and his wife, Mabel, and his parents were granted a license for an oratory in 1410 by Edmund Stafford, Bishop of Exeter for his father's mansion at Whympton (in Modbury), Devon. He and his wife, Mabel, had license for divine service in their manor of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon 8 Nov. 1421. In 1425 John Falewill and Agnes his wife settled tenements in Northford (in Dartington), Week (in Dartington), Stancombe (in Sherford), Bowden (in Sherford), Higher Velwell (in Rattery), and Lower Velwell (in Rattery), Devon on themselves for life, with successive remainders on Mabel, wife of William Fortescue, and her heirs; George Denysyll [Densyll] and Agnes his wife and their heirs, and John Boson and his heirs. WILLIAM FORTESCUE died testate before 1440. His widow, Mabel, married (2nd) before 1440 (date of lawsuit) JOHN TRUMPYNGDON, Gent., of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon. In 1440 John Boson sued John and his wife, Mabel, acting as executors of William Fortescu, and two others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass. In 1450 John and his wife, Mabel, sued George Denyshull [Densyll] in the Court of Common Pleas in a writ of formedon descender regarding a half share in two messuages and lands in Ratley, Devon. In 1450 Joan Hille, executrix of John Boson, Esq., sued John and his wife, Mabel, "formerly the wife of William Fortescu" in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. JOHN TRUMPYNGDON, Gent., was living in 1468.
References:
Thomas Fortescue, Lord Clermont, Fam. Hist. of Fortescue in all its Branches (1869): 1-10. Hingeston-Randolph, Reg. of Edmund Stafford (1886): 271, 275, 282. Vivian, Vis. of Cornwall (1887):100 (Coryn ped.). Vivian, Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 352-367 (Fortescue ped.). Worthy, Devonshire Wills (1896): 456-468 (re. Fortescue fam.). Benolte, Vis. of Surrey 1530, 1572 & 1613 (H.S.P. 43) (1899): 14 (Fortescue ped.: "Willm. Fortescue of Wimston in com. Devon = Mabell d. of Wm. Wallwell.") (Fortescue arms: Azure, a bend engrailed argent, cotised or, within a bordure gobony of the second and first.). C.P.R. 1385-1389 (1900): 263. Genealogist 20 (1904): 88. C.P.R. 1391-1396 (1905): 674. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 451. Rpt. & Trans. Devonshire Assoc. 3rd Ser. 3 (1911): 207. Watkin, Hist. of Totnes Priory & Medieval Town, Devonshire 2 (1917): 757 (Boson ped.), 766 (author states Mabel, wife of Edmond Bosome, was most probably a daughter of John Falwell). C.F.R. 20 (1949): 230-231. Lacy, Reg. of Edmund Lacy 1 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 7) (1963): 88. Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/717, image 1479d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no717/bCP40no717dorses/IMG_1479.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758, image 622d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0622.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758, image 649d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0649.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/46/80, #35 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].
jmb...@albion.edu
Aug 27, 2014, 8:19:26 PM8/27/14
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Just FYI, the History of Parlaiment Online gives a different account, under the entry for John Bosom (d.1440):
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/bosom-john-i-1440
This says that John's parents were "Edmund Bosom (d.1407/8), of Bosomzeal by Mabel, prob. da. of John Falewell." Later it describes the family as "well-connected," giving by way of example that "John's aunt, Isabel, married William Fortescue of Whympstone; his sister, Joan, married Henry Fortescue of Wood Barton, the elder brother of the future chief justice and himself c.j.KB in Ireland" ... Among other things. I haven't sorted through their sources, but yours seem to define the situation more accurately and with more certainty. Is there any legitimacy, or at least logical origin to their claims?
Cheers,
Jim+
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/bosom-john-i-1440
This says that John's parents were "Edmund Bosom (d.1407/8), of Bosomzeal by Mabel, prob. da. of John Falewell." Later it describes the family as "well-connected," giving by way of example that "John's aunt, Isabel, married William Fortescue of Whympstone; his sister, Joan, married Henry Fortescue of Wood Barton, the elder brother of the future chief justice and himself c.j.KB in Ireland" ... Among other things. I haven't sorted through their sources, but yours seem to define the situation more accurately and with more certainty. Is there any legitimacy, or at least logical origin to their claims?
Cheers,
Jim+
jhigg...@yahoo.com
Aug 27, 2014, 9:06:33 PM8/27/14
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On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:53:33 PM UTC-7, Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Dear Newsgroup ~
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This language regarding the three Harleian manuscripts appears, with one important difference, in the 7th (1993) edition of Weis' "Ancestral Roots", in Line 246E, noted as "prepared by Douglas Richardson". In 1993 you say that these manuscripts refer to the "Falwell" family, while now you say they refer to the "Falewell" family. Which surname is actually used in the manuscripts?
> Dear Newsgroup ~
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> That Mabel Falewell was an heiress is confirmed by Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
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> That Mabel Falewell was an heiress is confirmed by Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
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> WILLIAM FORTESCUE, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, son and heir. He married before 17 Nov. 1410 (grant of oratory) MABEL FALEWELL (or FALEWYLL, VALEWYLL, VEALWYLLE), daughter and co-heiress of John Falewell, of Velwell (in Rattery), Devon, by his wife, Agnes.
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> WILLIAM FORTESCUE, of Whympston (in Modbury), Devon, son and heir. He married before 17 Nov. 1410 (grant of oratory) MABEL FALEWELL (or FALEWYLL, VALEWYLL, VEALWYLLE), daughter and co-heiress of John Falewell, of Velwell (in Rattery), Devon, by his wife, Agnes.
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Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
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Harleian MS 1567, fo. 46; Harleian MS 1091, fo. 58; Harleian MS 9, fo. 10v, all of which show Fortescue quartering the Falewell arms (available at British Library, London).
This language regarding the three Harleian manuscripts appears, with one important difference, in the 7th (1993) edition of Weis' "Ancestral Roots", in Line 246E, noted as "prepared by Douglas Richardson". In 1993 you say that these manuscripts refer to the "Falwell" family, while now you say they refer to the "Falewell" family. Which surname is actually used in the manuscripts?
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