Hawise (de Grey?)
Mardi Carter
given. She was wife of Ralph Basset of Drayton who d. 31 Dec 1299, who
was son of Ralph Basset (d. 1265) and Margaret de Somery.
Hawise was purportedly dau. of John de Grey (d. abt 1265/6) of Shirland,
co. Derby, and his second wife Emma de Cauz.
No documentation was given for this marriage (of Ralph Basset and
Hawise) or for the ancestry of Hawise. Can anyone corroborate and give
sources? They were parents of:
Margaret m. Edmund de Stafford
Ralph m. Joan Beauchamp; d. 1342
Maud m. (1) William Heriz, (2) John Grey
mbc
Douglas Richardson
At the present time, I'm unaware of any evidence as to the identity of
Hawise, wife of Ralph Basset (died 1299), Lord Basset, of Drayton. I
toyed with the theory was Hawise was a de Lisle, but my research ran
into a snag and I haven't been able to resolve the problem to my
satisfaction yet. Whoever Hawise was, she appears to have been closely
related to Hugh Despenser (died 1326). He referred to Hawise's son,
Ralph, as his kinsman as he did Richard de Grey of Codnor, John de
Warenne, Earl of Surrey, and John de Segrave. The Despenser kinship
can not be explained. If anyone wants to take a crack at it, by all
means, please go ahead.
Ralph Basset and his wife, Hawise, did have three children, but not as
you give them. Their actual children were as follows:
1. Ralph Basset, died 1343, married Joan de Grey, daughter of
John, Lord Grey of Wilton. It was their grandson, also named Ralph,
died 1390, who married Joan de Beauchamp. This line died out.
2. John Basset, who died without issue.
3. Margaret Basset, died 1337, married (lst) Edmund de Stafford;
(2nd) Thomas de Pipe. Margaret has many descendants.
Although it is commonly claimed that there was a fourth child, Maud
Basset, who married William de Heriz, this is incorrect. Maud did
exist but she belongs two generations further back in the Basset
family. The confusion over Maud's placement in the Basset family tree
is caused by a faulty IPM taken in 1390 after the death of Ralph
Basset, last Lord Basset of Drayton. A close examination of the
chronology involved and a review of the charter evidence shows the IPM
was very much in error. In medieval genealogy, chronology is
everything.
Incidentally, another possible clue to Hawise Basset's identity may be
offered by the knowledge that her granddaughter, Margaret Basset, was
closely related to her husband, John de Bohun, Earl of Hereford. The
Basset-Bohun kinship is also not easily explained. I suspect the
kinship comes through an unidentified Fiennes wife in the ancestry of
John de Bohun. This matter deserves further study.
All for now. Best always, Douglas Richardson
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