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Re: Any Scots royal lines for immigrant John1 Borland of Boston, Massachusetts?

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Matt A

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May 18, 2013, 6:29:54 PM5/18/13
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> These Hamiltons are very confusing, seeming to prefer to intermarry
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> almost exclusively with other Hamiltons or those descended maternally
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> from Hamiltons, so finding any royal descent is beyond my abilities at
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> this time.

Well I can't vouch for the accuracy of the ODNB, or that Douglas' Hamilton-Baillie marriage is the one we are after, but preliminarily accepting both, the simplest solution is that the 1st Earl of Arran was a grandson of James II.

-Matt Ahlgren
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Matt A

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May 18, 2013, 7:54:35 PM5/18/13
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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:30:23 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > Well I can't vouch for the accuracy of the ODNB, or that Douglas' Hamilton-Baillie marriage is the one we are after, but preliminarily accepting both, the simplest solution is that the 1st Earl of Arran was a grandson of James II.
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> > -Matt Ahlgren
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> Right, but perhaps we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves (there are many
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> other links to be verified). Including the marriages of David
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> Hamilton, father of James of Bothwellhaugh, who apparently had wives
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> Janet Hamilton and Christian Schaw.
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> Also, if you want to be confused about the Muirhead family at this
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> time, read ...
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> http://www.motherbedford.com/Muirhead/Muirhead109.htm
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> On a positive note, the Privy Council volume linked to above shows, p.
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> 114, shows that James Baillie's wife Katherine Hamilton was stated to
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> be the sister of "James Hamilton of Barncluthe." This proves that in
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> fact she was a daughter of John Hamilton of Udston, in the parish of
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> Hamilton.

Right. Apologies for posting before reading all of your links.

-Matt
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kelsey.jack...@googlemail.com

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May 19, 2013, 5:46:08 AM5/19/13
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A better source for the Muirheads of Lachop is Nisbet's _Heraldry_, Vol. II, appendix pp. 258-268. Nisbet gives the following pedigree for the family under discussion:

Margaret Muirhead married John Hamilton of Udstoun. She was daughter of,

James Muirhead of Lachop who married Janet Hamilton, daughter of James Hamilton of Bothwelhaugh. He was son of,

James Muirhead, younger of Lachop, who married Janet Baillie, daughter of Alexander Baillie of Carfine. He was son of,

John Muirhead of Lachop who married Margaret Hepburn, sister of Patrick, Earl of Bothwell.

Numerous royal descents can be derived through this stem using readily available secondary sources such as the _Scots Peerage_.

All the best,
Kelsey

On Sunday, 19 May 2013 00:30:23 UTC+1, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > Well I can't vouch for the accuracy of the ODNB, or that Douglas' Hamilton-Baillie marriage is the one we are after, but preliminarily accepting both, the simplest solution is that the 1st Earl of Arran was a grandson of James II.
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> > -Matt Ahlgren
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kelsey.jack...@googlemail.com

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May 20, 2013, 5:01:30 AM5/20/13
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Dear Johnny,

It looks as if I spoke too soon in saying this family would be straightforward. Here are few more bits and pieces which may at least help to establish the senior male line. If I'm reading them and Nisbet correctly, they seem to disagree with the pedigree in the latter, which may well mean it needs to be reevaluated. The key would seem to be deciding how to translate "nepos" in this context -- is the younger James a nephew or a grandson?

All the best,
Kelsey

Charter of William Portuus of Glenkirk in favour of Cristine Mureheid, legitimate daughter of James M. de Lauchop and affianced spouse of John Portuus, son and heir apparent of the said William -- the six pound land of Quhitslaid in the barony of Glenquhum, Peebles, 31 August 1544 (Reg. Mag. Sig., 1513-1546, no. 3023).

Royal Charter to James Mureheid, nepos and heir apparent of James M. de Lauchop -- the ten pound lands of Balgraden in the stewartry of Kirkcudbricht -- which James M. de Lauchop resigned -- 33 October 1550 (Reg. Mag. Sig., 1546-1580, no. 528).

Charter of James Mureheid of Lauchope who, for the implementation of a contract dated 13 August 1576, sells to Thomas Hamilton in Bartramschottis and Katherine Bailyie his spouse, an annual-rent of 20 merks out of the 10 merk lands of Lauchope in the barony of Lauchope [given elsewhere in the document as the barony of Boithuill], Lanark. Amongst the witnesses are James Mureheid in Schawfute and James Mureheid, son of James of Lauchope -- 26 March 1577 (Reg. Mag. Sig., 1546-1580, no. 2899).

James Mureheid of Lachoipe served heir to his father James Mureheid of Lachoipe in the lands of Over and Nether Lauchoipes, the lands of Polterlandis, Frielandis, and Auchinloy in the lordship and barony of Bothuile (8l. 13s. 14d. old extent, 34l. 13s. 4d. new extent), and the lands of Trinnildyke and Blenscheilburne in the barony of Cambusnethane (40s. old extent, 8l. new extent). 12 February 1624 (Inq. Ret., Lanark, no. 144). He was retoured his father's heir in lands within Kirkcudbright, Edinburgh, Renfrew, and Linlithgow also.

On Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:59:21 UTC+1, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > A better source for the Muirheads of Lachop is Nisbet's _Heraldry_, Vol. II, appendix pp. 258-268.  Nisbet gives the following pedigree for the family under discussion:
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> > Margaret Muirhead married John Hamilton of Udstoun.  She was daughter of,
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> > James Muirhead of Lachop who married Janet Hamilton, daughter of James Hamilton of Bothwelhaugh.  He was son of,
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> > James Muirhead, younger of Lachop, who married Janet Baillie, daughter of Alexander Baillie of Carfine.  He was son of,
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> > John Muirhead of Lachop who married Margaret Hepburn, sister of Patrick, Earl of Bothwell.
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> > Numerous royal descents can be derived through this stem using readily available secondary sources such as the _Scots Peerage_.
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> > All the best,
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> > Kelsey
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> Thanks, Kelsey, for the note on better sources for the Muirheads. I
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> note that the Muirhead website quotes the following document:
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> ‘Confirmation of Assignation dated 23 May, 1575 by James Muirhead
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> sometime of Lachop to Margaret Muirhead his daughter of an annualrent
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> of 65 merks alienated by him and Elizabeth Hamilton his spouse by John
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> Hamilton of Pedderisburne from the lands of Drumgalloch and Blakrig in
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> the parish of Monkland, to be “intromitted with by her until the
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> redemption thereof by a payment of 650 merks and 20 pounds of lent
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> silver”.The Sovereign gives this to her despite her father being
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> forfeited.’
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> This makes it look like Margaret's mother might have been Elizabeth
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> Hamilton, not Janet Hamilton.

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JBrand

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Feb 18, 2023, 12:24:13 AM2/18/23
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[I'm putting back an updated version of my removed posting, as I've found more information on this family.]

The Scots immigrant John1 Borland of Boston (husband of Sarah Neal), may have remote royal ancestry through his Baillie or Hamilton lines.

Josephine C. Frost, _Ancestors of Henry Rogers Winthrop and his wife, Alice Woodward Babcock_ (1927), gives:

2. JOHN BORLAND, son of John and Marion (Mack) Borland, was born in Bangor, Ireland, Dec. 23, 1633, and married Mch. 5, 1657, Beatrix (daughter of James Baillie), who at Isle of Eelin in Larn [? Lanark], died about 1674. Issue: John, John, Francis, Janet, Anna.

3. JOHN BORLAND, son of John and Beatrix (Baillie) Borland, was born Feb. 3, 1659, and became a prominent merchant of Boston, Mass., making his will there in 1726 and dying March 30, 1727. He mentions his wife Sarah; only son Francis; three nieces, Cecil, Anna and Euphamie, daughter[s] of his brother Francis Borland, late of Glasford, in North Britain, clerk; ...

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The brother, Rev. Mr. Francis Borland of Lanarkshire, Scotland, left a surviving diary, now housed at the University of Edinburgh, which has been studied in detail by Jack Ramsay ("The Borland Memorial," _Journal of Presbyterian History_, 41 [1963]: 141-64).

Per this diary of Rev. Francis Borland, the family was in Ireland only briefly in the late 1650s, living most of the rest of the time at Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Francis also mentions his brother John, "who was bred a Merchant ... & traded to New England about the year 1680, where afterwards providence did cast his lot in Boston of New England. Here the Lord did order for him a prudent and virtuous wife Sarah Neal, whom he married in [sic] October 23, 1683 by whom he hath several children" (Ramsay, p. 145, footnote 22). The mother of John and Francis is named by Francis as "Beautrice Boulie born about 1624, married March 5, 1657," who was a daughter of "James Boulie Laird of Park in Blantyne Parish and Katherin Hamilton daughter of the Laird of Edstou in Hamilton Parish" (p. 43, footnote 6).

Elsewhere, Rev. Francis Borland mentioned "boarding with my Aunt Janet Bailie," so it's unclear why the name "Boulie" was employed in the details about his mother, unless Ramsey had some difficulties with the handwriting at that point in the manuscript (perhaps the surname was capitalized in that passage ?).

The marriage of John Borland and Beatrice is in the extracted IGI (batch M11647-2), at Hamilton, Lanarkshire, on 28 January 1657 (not 5
March), their names given as "Johne Borland" and "Bitrix Bailzie." Bailzie is a more common variant of Baillie.

Beatrice Baillie's parents are apparently the ones found in this complaint to the Privy Council in 1630:

"Complaint by Katharine Hamiltoun, spouse to James Baillie of Parke, as follows:---On 18th February last she obtained decreit before their
Lordships ordaining her said husband to infeft her in a legal way in the half of his living of Parke, Auchintibber and Corsbasket, with the
burden of the entertainment of their three daughters and payment of the annual rent of 1000 merks. He has not obeyed the decreet and has been put to the horn accordingly and comtemptuously remains thereat ..." (P. Hume Brown, ed. _The Register of the Privy Council of
Scotland_, 2nd series, vol. 4, pp. 95-96 [extensive petition by Katherine Hamiltoun]).

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http://books.google.com/books?id=EcYvAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA95&dq=%22entertainment+of+their+three%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n-aXUdmbMvPG4APeioGAAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22entertainment%20of%20their%20three%22&f=false

James Baillie has a known mistress, Jean Henderson of Parke, and Katherine Hamilton accused both of them to the Council the following year, 1631, "the complainer appearing by her brother, James Hamilton of Barncluthe ..." (p. 114).

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Register_of_the_Privy_Council_of_Sco/EcYvAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=barncluthe&pg=PA748&printsec=frontcover

Sir James Balfour Paul, _The Scots Peerage_, 2:41-42, shows that James Hamilton "of Barncleuch" had a sister "Catherine, married to Baillie of Park"; these two were children of John Hamilton of Udston, parish of Hamilton, and his spouse Margaret Muirhead of Lachop. Compare the place name of Udston, Hamilton parish, with Francis Borland's statement about his great-grandfather Hamilton "of _Edstou_ in Hamilton Parish" (I suspect what Francis really wrote was "Edston," close enough to Udston.)

Rev. Francis Borland mentions being educated at Glasgow in the 1670s in some fashion by "Mr. Francis Kincaid, my uncle in law" (Ramsey, p. 143).

The following records, drawn from the IGI, show a Francis Kincaid with wife Margaret Baillie and numerous family at Hamilton and nearby Glasgow.

Hamilton, Scotland, baptisms of children of Francis Kincaid with no wife named:

--Christian Kincaid, dau., bapt. 1647
--William Kincaid, son, bapt. 1649

Glasgow, Scotland, records of Kincaids, all baptisms showing the mother's family name ("Baillie"):

--George Kincaid, son Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1652
--Margaret Kincaid, who married in 1653 to Matthew Cumming
--Matthew Kincaid, son Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1653
--Sarah Kincaid, dau. Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1655
--Janet Kincaid, dau. Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1656
--Francis Kincaid, son Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1658
--Jean Kincaid, dau. Francis & Margaret, bapt. 1660

This Kincaid-Baillie family is central in a complex legal dispute between Kincaid, Cumming and Scot, over the lands of John Baillie of Parke and Corsebasket, apparently a brother of Beatrix Baillie, wife of John Borland (though no Borlands are found in the dispute) [see Brown's _Supplement to the Dictionary of the Decisions of the Court of Session_ 4: 515-16]:

December 24, 1701. I reported the competition about the estate of Mr John Kincaid of Corsebasket, advocate, betwixt Matthew Cumming and Margaret Scot, his sister's children, and his nearest of kin. John Baillie of Park, heritor of the lands of Corsebasket, makes a tailzie of these lands in 1659, to himself and the heirs of his own body; whilk failing, to John Kincaid his nephew, and the heirs of his body; then to Francis Kincaid and his heirs, and, last of all, to Margaret Kincaid their sister, and the heirs of her body. After Baillie's decease, John Kincaid does not prosecute the tailzie, but charges Baillie's sisters, as heirs of line, to enter heir to him in the said lands of Corsebasket; which they accordingly did, and disponed to him these lands, but exactly in the terms of their brother's tailzie, whereupon John is infeft; but afterwards resolving to change the holding, he resigns in the hands of the Duchess of Hamilton, superior, and prevails with her Grace to get them changed from ward to feu; and in this charter the tailzie is neglected, and the lands taken to himself, and the heirs of his own body; which failing, to his brother Francis, and the heirs of his body; and these also failing, the fee to return to himself, and his own heirs whatsomever; and on this he is also infeft. On John Kincaid's decease in June 1700, Matthew Cumming, eldest son to Margaret Kincaid, the last branch and member of the tailzie made by John Baillie, serves himself heir of provision and tailzie to the said John Baillie, and thereon infefts himself as _haeres ex asse_ in the whole lands; Margaret Scot, a niece of John Kincaid's by another sister, retours herself heir portioner to her uncle, and being also infeft, pursues, etc. etc. ...

End of Quote.
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https://www.google.com/books/edition/Supplement_to_the_Dictionary_of_the_Deci/r6xKAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22betwixt+matthew+cumming%22&pg=PA515&printsec=frontcover

The only baptisms of persons named immediately above which I can't find are those of Francis and Margaret Kincaid's two elder children John Kincaid and Margaret Kincaid; but the Cumming marriage of Margaret Kincaid is in the Glasgow records along with the baptisms of her younger siblings.

kelsey.jack...@googlemail.com

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Feb 18, 2023, 5:16:55 AM2/18/23
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If it's a royal descent you're looking for, I think I can offer at least a provisional one for this man:

1. John Borland, 1659-1727 (as above)

2. Beatrix Baillie = John Borland (as above)

3. Katharine Hamilton = James Baillie of Park (as above - from their son's memoir)

4. Margaret Muirhead = John Hamilton of Udston, living 1593 (_Scots Peerage_, ii. 41).

5. Janet Hamilton = James Muirhead of Lachop (Nisbet, _Heraldry_, ii. appx. 258-268).

6. David Hamilton, 1st of Bothwellhaugh = Christian Schawe (John Anderson, _Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton_ [Edinburgh, 1825], 240).

7. John Hamilton, 1st of Orbistoun = Jean Hamilton (Anderson, _Memoirs_, 271).

8. Gavin Hamilton, Provost of Bothwell, fl. 1453-1482 = Jean Muirhead (Anderson, _Memoirs_, 270-271; _Scots Peerage_, iv. 348-349).

[The following generations are pretty well-trodden, so I haven't provided individual sources - this is taken from Genealogics]

9. Janet Livingstone = Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow, d. before 1441

10. NN Dundas = Sir Alexander Livingstone of Callendar, d. 1451

11. Christian Stewart = Sir James Dundas of that Ilk

12. Isabel of Lorn = Sir John Stewart of Innermeath and Lorn

13. Jonet Isaac = Eoin of Lorn

14. Matilda Bruce = Thomas Isaac

15. Robert I Bruce, King of Scots

Obviously the usual caveats apply to a long pedigree assembled from secondary sources, but if anyone is interested this might be a useful first avenue to examine. As I noted in my posts of a decade ago, there's also the possibility of royal descent through the Muirheads of Lachop but the pedigree of that family needs to be established from the primary record before any progress can be made there.

All the best,
Kelsey

JBrand

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Feb 18, 2023, 10:10:44 AM2/18/23
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Thanks, very nice. I'll leave this one to the descendants to nail down exactly (there are a few, including former Senator and Secretary of State John Kerry).

A few additional details from Rev. Borland's Diary/ Memorial.

He was born in Ireland in 1661, the same year his parents returned to Moorhourses in Hamilton parish.

Park or Parke is in Blantyre, not Blantyne, Parish.

The author of the Borland article is Ramsay, not Ramsey (I used both above).

Francis Borland was a graduate of Glasgow University.

Francis mentions his mother died in 1674, which agrees with information from the American branch, but doesn't give a location.

His parents' children were John (b. and d. 1658), another John (b. 1659, the immigrant), Francis, Anna, and Janet.

JBrand

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Feb 18, 2023, 10:17:40 AM2/18/23
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Oh, also .... I still haven't seen _The Borland Family_ by Constance Borland (Knickerbocker Press, 1911).

Also, Moorhouses (not Moorhourses).

Johnny Brananas

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Jun 27, 2023, 5:32:33 PM6/27/23
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Although the Ramsay article in _Journal of Presbyterian History_ apparently does not mention it, the immigrant's father remarried after the death of his first wife Beatrix Baillie: "John Borland remarried (1676), to Anna Stirling, but [Rev.] Francis [Borland] does not supply details about the children of this couple."

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Narratives_of_the_Religious_Self_in_Earl/WMMFDAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22anna+stirling%22+borland&pg=PA140&printsec=frontcover

I assume that this second marriage is the one recorded in the middle of a bunch of contemporary genealogical jottings, apparently by a certain Dr. Stirling, entered in blank spaces of a copy of William Wilson's _A Register or A Generall Almanack for Every Yeare_ (London, 1646).

"Anna Stirlinge maried to .... [illegible] thursday the 4 of Janur 1666; maried againe to Jon Borland July the 11 July [sic] 1676."

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101076468725&view=1up&seq=167

The writer's name may not even be Stirling/ Sterling, but he mentions brothers and brothers-in-law by that name.
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