Ralph De Burun, Lord of Horestan Castle

[brotherly...@gmail.com]

Any opinions on this alleged pedigree? It comes to me credited to a 1965 book called "The Byron Chronicle, A History of the Byron and Byrom Families, 1066-1800" by Mark Bennett Byron III.

Of the progenitor, Ralph de Burun, the author writes, "Ralph de Burun born in Normandy accompanied William the Conqueror to England or followed soon thereafter. There is no record of his marriage, his wife's name or date of death. The name of only one son is recorded. Ralph until his death was Lord of Horestan Castle in Derbyshire and as described earlier held other lands in the counties of Derby, Nottingham and Lancaster."

A distant descendant, Henry Byrum (1675-1717) is believed to have come to colonial Virginia as an indentured servant in 1696.

I know that I can count on someone on this list to tear this to bits (or maybe, possibly confirm it). Regardless, I appreciate your help.

Mark



1 Ralph De Burun, Lord of Horestan Castle d: Unknown
. 2 Hugh De Burom (d. 1166), Lord of Horestan Castle d: Unknown
.... +Albreda d: Unknown
.... 3 Roger De Burun (1137-ca.1199), Lord of Horestan Castle d: Unknown
....... +Nicola De Verdun d: Unknown
....... 4 Geoffrey De Biron d: bef. 1246
.......... +Edith d: Unknown
.......... 5 Geoffrey De Byrom, de Glazebrook b. bef. 1246
............. +Alice De Heriz d: Unknown
............. 6 Richard De Byrom, de Glazebrook de Houghton
................ 7 Henry De Byrom, de Glazebrook d: Unknown
................... 8 Henry Byrome, de Byrome de Glazebrook d. Abt 1342
...................... +Alice De Holland d: Unknown
...................... 9 Simon Byrome, de Byrom d: 1385
......................... +Joan d: Unknown
......................... 10 Thomas Byrom, de Byrom d: Unknown
............................ 11 Henry Byrom, de Byrom d: Unknown
............................... +Lucy Parr d: Unknown
............................... 12 John Byrom, de Byrom d: Unknown
.................................. +Margaret Lever d: Unknown
.................................. 13 Henry Byrom, de Byrom d: 1506
..................................... +Constance Abram d: 1542
..................................... 14 John Byrom, of Byrom d: Unknown
........................................ 15 Thomas Byrom, of Byrom d: Unknown
........................................... +Leland d: Unknown
........................................... 16 Henry Byrom, of Byrom b: 1504 d: Unknown
.............................................. +Elizabeth Bold m: April 20, 1529 d: Unknown
.............................................. 17 Henry Byrom, of Lowton b: September 29, 1545 in Winwick, England d: Unknown
................................................. 18 Peter Byrom b: Abt. 1570 d: Unknown
.................................................... +Margery Parr d: Unknown
.................................................... 19 Henry Byrom, of Prescot Parrish b: March 24, 1615/16 d: September 1684
....................................................... +Margaret Golden m: January 24, 1638/39 d: Unknown
....................................................... 20 Henry Byrom, of Parr d: Unknown
.......................................................... +Ann Callen m: April 12, 1669 d: Unknown

[Doug Smith]

You can find a little ore on parts of this family:

William Dugdale, Vis. of the County Palatine of Lancaster, 1664/5, Chetham Society Vol. LXXXIV, (1872), p 66. Joseph Gillow, Lord Burghley's Map of Lancashire in 1590, (Catholic Record Society, 1907), p 45. VCH Lancashire, (1907), Vol 3: 377-382.

Doug Smith

[Doug Smith]

The first part from Herbert Robertson, London, 1893/5, Stemmata Robertson, p. 204/5, is part of the ancestry of the Lords Byron. It goes:
1. Ralph
2. Hugh
3. Hugh
4. Sir Ralph married to Nichola de Verdun

Sir Ralph was father of Robert and Peter de Byron. They held Horestan Castle, Derbyshire and lands in Notts and Lancs. based on Stemmata Robertson.

I do not know if there was a third son Geoffrey......


Doug Smith

[Wjhonson]

There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that the Byrum family and the Bryon family are related

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[Doug Smith]

see also

http://booksnow1.scholarsportal.info/ebooks/oca9/38/byrompedigreesib00rain/byrompedigreesib00rain.pdf

Doug

[Doug Smith]

also....


'Townships: Lowton', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 150-154. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41398 Date accessed: 24 November 2012.
>
>
> Doug

[steven...@gmail.com]

This article is right on..Ralph was the earliest record line I could find and I saw where Henry and his brother were Gunsmiths and indentured to pay their ride to America.
SB

[steven...@gmail.com]

See the response I put on the last thread.
SB

[aby...@sintonisd.us]

> Roger De Burun married Nicola Verdun. They had a son called Geoffrey Byron, and he had a son named Geoffrey as well. He was known as Geoffrey de Byrom de Glazebrook.

[aby...@sintonisd.us]

On Saturday, November 24, 2012 at 9:02:24 AM UTC-6, wjhonson wrote:
> There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that the Byrum family and the Bryon family are related
>
>

> The name has changed spelling numerous times as seen throughout the entire Byrom family tree. It was De Burun at the oldest I can find.

[aby...@sintonisd.us]

On Saturday, November 24, 2012 at 6:01:24 AM UTC-6, Doug Smith wrote:

Roger was the husband of Nicola. Not Ralph. They did have a son named Geoffrey. Geoffrey had a son named Geoffrey de Byrom de Glazebrook.