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Douglas Richardson

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Aug 11, 2002, 8:59:39 PM8/11/02
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 297-298 (sub Saint Amand) states that
Amaury de Saint Amand, 1st Lord Saint Amand, married a woman named
Mary, but it provides no source for this statement.

Recently, I found a reference to Mary, wife of Sir Amaury de Saint
Amand, in a contemporary episcopal register which shows that on 11
July 1304, Mary de Saint Amand presented to the church of Westwydehaye
"in the name of Sir Amaury her husband, absent in distant parts."
[Reference: C.T. Flower, Registrum Simonis de Gandavo Diocesis
Saresbriensis A.D. 1297-1315, 2 (Canterbury & York Soc., vol. 41)
(1934): 633].

This record proves that Sir Amaury de Saint Amand and his wife, Mary,
married before 11 July 1304. For reasons not known to me, the editor
of the bishop's register didn't identify the parish of Westwydehaye.
It presumably lies in Salisbury diocese which was the area covered by
the register.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royala...@msn.com

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Aug 12, 2002, 1:54:03 AM8/12/02
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Sunday, 11 August, 2002


Dear Douglas,

Another interesting find, which may help in unraveling part of the St.
Amand ancestry.

While I have not found a great deal as of yet, I have determined that
'Westwydehaye' was West Woodhay, co. Berks. [also known as Woodhay Oseville].

1. According to the Berkshire History site [1],

' In times past the village of West Woodhay was
known as Woodhay Oseville, named after the Lords
who held the manor until about 1250. Near the
present church, but half a mile from the old
one, stands the motte of a small castle or
hunting lodge. It was probably built by the
Oseville ancestor, William FitzSwale, in the
early twelfth century. He was the son of
Swalo, the man given the manor after the
Norman Conquest. The St. Amands later lived
there, but they probably abandoned the castle,
about 1300,...'

2. As to continued activity of the St. Amands in
the area, we find charters for a market and
fair at West Woodhay in 1317 [2]:

A. Market (Charter) Tues;

granted 28 July 1317, by King Edward II to
John de Sancto Amando (CChR, 1300-26, p.
359). To be held at the manor.

B. Fair (Charter), vfm, Purification (2 Feb);

granted 28 July 1317, by King Edward II to
John de Sancto Amando (CChR, 1300-26, p.
359). To be held at the manor.

Unless the St. Amand family acquired the manor and/or castle by purchase,
perhaps this will help in finding part of the maternal ancestry of that
family.....?

Good luck, and good hunting.

John *


NOTES

[1] Berkshire History is located at

www.berkshirehistory.com/castles/woodhay_cast.html

[2] Information as to this and other charters for
medieval fairs and markets found at

www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/

This provides an index of the shires for which
records are available.


* John P. Ravilious

Chris Phillips

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Aug 12, 2002, 4:58:50 AM8/12/02
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Douglas Richardson wrote:
> This record proves that Sir Amaury de Saint Amand and his wife, Mary,
> married before 11 July 1304. For reasons not known to me, the editor
> of the bishop's register didn't identify the parish of Westwydehaye.
> It presumably lies in Salisbury diocese which was the area covered by
> the register.

I presume it would be West Woodhay, about 5-6 miles WSW of Newbury in
Berkshire. It would have been in Salisbury diocese in medieval times.

Incidentally, people may find useful this map, showing the medieval dioceses
in the British Isles. The URL for the web site, which contains many other
useful maps, came to me from Malinda, via Roz Griston:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/ecclesiastical_brit_isles
.jpg

Chris Phillips

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