St. Quintin's Revisited
Jay
have an idea of the most likely reconstructions?
I have
Herbert St. Quintin (Contemporary of William the Conqueror)
/
Oliver St. Quintin m. Adeliza (anyone have a source for Adeliza?)
(3? sons Herbert, Robert? and Richard? )
/
Herbert St. Quintin m. Agnes ( source for Agnes?)
( 2? sons Richard (Amatellus?) and Herbert?)
/
Richard (Amatellus?) St. Quintin m. Catherine Freshmarsh (source for
Katherine?)
/
Herbert St. Quintin m. Agnes de Stuteville (is she related to Roger
who is the Sheriff of Northumberland?
(s. Herbert, John, Amatellus, Wiliam, Anselm, Alexander, d. Margery,
Agnes)
/
William St. Quintin (d. 1302) m. Beatrix Sutton (source for surname
of Beatrix?)
/
Herbert St. Quintin m. Margery Faucomberge (dau of Walter)
Speaking of Margery, does anyone know if and how Margery Faucomberge
is related to Lora Faucomberge ( dau of William) who a couple of
generations later marries Herbert St. Quintin?
Greystoke
The St. Quintins don't seem to stir up much interest in this group.
These two sources, you've probably already read them, do not answer
your question about the generational structure of the family:
Early Yorkshire Families, edited by Charles Clay. The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society Record Series 135, 1973, p. 79-80.
The Lords of Holderness 1086-1260: A Study in Feudal Society, by
Barbara English, 1979, p. 149-150.
Re: Beatrix Sutton, wife of William St. Quintin. She is called that
and "daughter of Saire, Lord Sutton of Holderness" in:
The History and Antiquities of the Seigniory of of Holderness, by
George Poulson, 1840, 2:266 (St. Quintin pedigree) and
A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant
Baronetcies of England, by John Burke, 2nd Edition 1844 (1964
facsimile), p. 462-463.
I've done no follow-up on the Suttons, just noted items to check in
the future. The article about them in CP 12(1):570 mentions drawing
freely on Thomas Blashill's book Sutton-in-Holderness.
Too, I've seen a footnote elsewhere saying there is a Sutton pedigree
in Frost's Notices of Hull, p. 99. I'm still looking for copies of
these.
Good luck in you search.
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greystoke" <grey...@topeka.net>
To: <GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: St. Quintin's Revisited
> Hi Jay,
> The St. Quintins don't seem to stir up much interest in this group.
Dear Jay & Greystoke,
If you go to my data base, go to Easy Name Search and just enter St.Quintin.
Quite a list appears. There are some who have St.Quintin as a first name,
and some have it as a title, but there are (at the bottom of the list)
several who have St.Quintin as a surname.
I did not check, but perhaps you may find some helpful details.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Malinda Jones
and heiress of John Ryther and his wife (Alice ?) Sutton. This Wright line
is ancestral to the Wrights of VA (not to mention the Gunpowder Plot Wright
brothers).
Another Sutton connection is ancestral to George Meryton, Very Rev Dean of
York whose daughter married Rev Francis Wright of Bolton-on-Swale....and is
also ancestral to the Wrights of VA
Emlyn Disney (desc of David I of Scotland) m Hamon Sutton (b 1479)
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Mary Sutton m Thomas Yorks
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Mary Yorks m Thomas Randes
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Mary Randes m Very Rev George Meryton, Dean of York & Chaplain to Queen Anne
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Anne Meryton m Rev Francis Wright, D.D.
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Capt Richard Wright m Ann Mottram (in VA)
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Maj Francis Wright m Anne Washington
Jay
-Jay
Jay Cary
Jay wrote:
>I know the early St. Quintin's are a bit troublesome, but does anyone
>have an idea of the most likely reconstructions?
>
>I have
>
>Herbert St. Quintin (Contemporary of William the Conqueror)
>/
>Oliver St. Quintin m. Adeliza (anyone have a source for Adeliza?)
> (3? sons Herbert, Robert? and Richard? )
>
I have this source: Joseph Foster, Pedigrees of the County Families of
Yorkshire, Vol. III - North and East Riding, (London, 1874).
>/
>Herbert St. Quintin m. Agnes ( source for Agnes?)
>
K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Ocurring
in English Documents 1066-1166, (1999), Vol. I p 314, 249
> ( 2? sons Richard (Amatellus?) and Herbert?)
>
A.S. Eliot, “The De St. Quintins”, Transactions of the East Riding
Antiquarian Society, vol. x, p. 19-24.
ditto Foster
>/
>Richard (Amatellus?) St. Quintin m. Catherine Freshmarsh (source for
>Katherine?)
>
Nothing on Katherine
>/
>Herbert St. Quintin m. Agnes de Stuteville (is she related to Roger
>who is the Sheriff of Northumberland?
>
She was sister and co-heir of Anselm de Stuteville, dau of Roger de
Stuteville of Burton Agnes. See Foster, Eliot and also J.W. Clay,
Dugdale’s Visitation of Yorkshire with Additions, Volume III, (1917).
>
>(s. Herbert, John, Amatellus, Wiliam, Anselm, Alexander, d. Margery,
>Agnes)
>/
>William St. Quintin (d. 1302) m. Beatrix Sutton (source for surname
>of Beatrix?)
>
Foster as above
>/
>Herbert St. Quintin m. Margery Faucomberge (dau of Walter)
>
>
>Speaking of Margery, does anyone know if and how Margery Faucomberge
>is related to Lora Faucomberge ( dau of William) who a couple of
>generations later marries Herbert St. Quintin?
>
Nothing on Fauconberg
Jay Cary
Lyme, NH USA
Jay
- Jay K.
Greystoke
Thanks for your inputs on the St. Quintins, this has been a good
thread.
One more item containing a paragraph for both Herbert (d. 1301/2) and
Herbert (d. 1338/9):
Knights of Edward I, collected by C. Moor. In The Publications of The
Harleian Society, 1931, 83:195-196.
Peter Freeman
See also the thread with the subject
"Thomas St. Quintin +Margaret de Hornby c. 1330",
which was current in December 2002/January 2003, for the St Quintin pedigree
taken from Gale's "Registrum Honoris de Richmond" (1722 edition).
This provides a little extra information.
Regards,
Peter Freeman