Gundomar; Mendoza
Francisco Antonio Doria
>I'm aware of a Gundemar (610-612), visigothic king in Iberia.
>
>Manoel
>
I just received a complete info from a friend at Portugal-L.
Manuel, how do I reach from Fernão Iñiguez, top ancestor of the Furtados
de Mendoça in Portugal, second quarter of the 13th century, into the
early Spanish Mendozas? The standard lines do not work, there is a gap,
as you've already pointed out.
chico
Manoel Cesar Furtado
>March 11, 2000 5:18 PM
>Subject: Gundomar; Mendoza
> Manuel, how do I reach from Fernão Iñiguez, top ancestor of the Furtados
> de Mendoça in Portugal, second quarter of the 13th century, into the
> early Spanish Mendozas? The standard lines do not work, there is a gap,
> as you've already pointed out.
>
> chico
Well, Francisco I'm stuck in Salazar y Castro's Historia Genealogica de la
Casa de Lara, but it seems to have some blatant errors. Let's see the lines
he presents:
"Queen Urraca (d.1126) = Pedro Gonzalez de Lara (d.1130)
\
Fernando Perez Furtado = Guiomar Alonso
\
Leonor Hurtado = Diego Lopez de Mendoza
\
1-Lope Diaz
2-Hurtado Diaz (one of the 200 knights of King Alonso X, 1253)
3-Doña Furtada de Mendoza = Ortun Ortiz Calderon
4-Fernan Furtado (who passed to Portugal with the same name of his
grand-father, and he is the progenitor of the whole House of the Mendozas in
that reign)".
Given that this Fernan is grand-son of Fernando Perez Furtado (b.1115-20?),
and has passed to Portugal with the court of Dona Brites in 1245 (?), it
makes me think that the dates are wrong. There is a gap, for sure. Maybe
Leonor was a grand-daughter of Fernando Perez Furtado.
Salazar says that Diego Lopez de Mendoza was Admiral of Castile. He's not
correct. He confuses this Diego with Diego Hurtado de Mendoza (d.1404), the
true Admiral of Castile.
The Mendozas came from the province of Alava to Castile in the reign of
Alfonso XI (1312-1350). The first Mendoza to appear in service of Castile
was Gonzalo Yáñez de Mendoza (m. Aldonza de Ayala), grand-father of the
Admiral.
Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, the Admiral, was married (2) to Leonor de la Vega,
d., gd., ggd.of the Garcilasos de la Vega, and there's an interesting
episode about his son Juan:
The Admiral was away when his son was born, and Leonor had the child
baptized Garcilaso in honor of her glorious ancestors, but the Admiral
changed the boy's name to Juan Hurtado de Mendoza in honor of the Mendoza's
glorious ancestors (in Osuna).
I guess that the story of Fernando Perez Furtado, son of Urraca and count
Pedro Gonzalez of Lara, is correct, and that one of his descendent(s) has
linked to the Mendoza family, is very plausible too, but I'm not entirely
sure how and when it happened.
Chico, we have still a story to be told!
Manoel
Francisco Antonio Doria
>I guess that the story of Fernando Perez Furtado, son of Urraca and count
>Pedro Gonzalez of Lara, is correct, and that one of his descendent(s) has
>linked to the Mendoza family, is very plausible too, but I'm not entirely
>sure how and when it happened.
>Chico, we have still a story to be told!
>
>Manoel
I'm curious because the name Mendonça alterned with Doria in my family
until rather recently, and I can trace it back rather reasonably into the
Portuguese line.
chico
PS: Recall that document mentioned by Salazar that refers to a Fernão
*Iñiguez*. Is there a close Iñigo? (Say, late 12th or early 13th century.)
Manoel Cesar Furtado
>March 12, 2000 1:40 AM
>Subject: Re: Furtado de Mendoça
In the facsimile I have from "Historia Genealogica de la Casa de Lara"
there's no Iñigo. And I have to make a rectification: I said that Salazar
names Don Diego Lopez de Mendoza as Admiral, but I am wrong. He says that
his brother Don Ruy Lopez de Mendoza was "Almirante de Castilla".
Pavel Pokorný has told me about a site (now out of work, it seems) of the
first Mendozas, compiled by José L.G. de Paz from "Historia Genealógica de
la Casa de Mendoza ( Diego G. Coronel), Historia de Guadalajara y sus
Mendoza en los Siglos XV y XVI ( Francisco Layna), De nobleza vieja a
nobleza nueva ( Slavador de Moxó), and others.
Here's what I've got from the site:
The first Mendozas
1. Lope Sanchez de Mendoza, mayordomo mayor der Sancho el Mayor de Navarra
(X c.)
2.Lope Iñigo deMendoza, participated of the conquest of Toledo, 1085
3.Lope Lopez de Mendoza, from the House of Llodio, XII c.
4.Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza, señor de Llodio, XII c.
5.Lope de Mendoza, señor de Llodio, died in the battle of Alarcos (1195).
Son of the anterior
6.Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza, señor de Llodio, son of the anterior ( in the
beginning of XIII c.
7.Gonzalo Lopez de Mendoza, latter's brother and señor de Mendoza
8.Ruy Lopez de Mendoza, Almirante de la Mar in Castile and repartidor of
Sevilla ( Salazar says he was brother of Diego Lopez de Mendoza)
9.Lope Gonzalez de Mendoza, son of Gonzalo, señor de Mendoza, died in Arrato
10.Diego Lopez de Mendoza, grandson of Gonzalo Lopez , señor de Mendoza and
revenger of his father Lope Gonzalez. He was the first named Diego Hurtado
de Mendoza (sic)
11.Maria de Mendoza, heir and granddaughter of Diego, married to her cousin
Juan Hurtado de Mendoza, "el barbudo", señor de Mendivil ( about 1300)
12.Juan Hurtado de Mendoza, "el viejo", ambassador of Alfonso XI in 1339
13.Gonzalo Yañez de Mendoza, 3°? ( tataranieto) grandson of Diego, first
Hurtado de Mendoza (sic). He was the first Mendoza that emmigrated from
Alava to Castile in service of Alfonso XI
14.Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza (1340?-1385), "el de Aljubarrota". Son of
Gonzalo Yañez
15.Juana de Mendoza, daughter of Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza and known as "la
ricahembra de Guadalajara"
16.Diego Hurtado de Mendoza (1367-1404), son of Pedro Gonzalez. He was
"Almirante Mayor de Castilla" and father of the Marquis de Santillana
17.Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza y de la Vega (1398-1458), marquis of Santillana
Manoel
Francisco Antonio Doria
>6.Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza, señor de Llodio, son of the anterior ( in the
>beginning of XIII c.
Any chance of being this one? His presumed son was called, if I rightly
recall, Fernão Iñiguez de Mendoza, attested in a 1242 document.
chico
Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>6.Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza, señor de Llodio, son of the anterior ( in the
>>beginning of XIII c.
>Any chance of being this one? His presumed son was called, if I rightly
>recall, Fernão Iñiguez de Mendoza, attested in a 1242 document.
>chico
If you put together the lines by Salazar and the other lines of the Mendoza
site in internet, we have an unsolvable confusion of dates. Fernão Iñiguez
de Mendoza (attested in 1242) would be uncle of Don Diego Lopez de Mendoza,
the father of Fernan Furtado who passed to Portugal, apud Salazar, who is
supposed to be the same Fernão (so, off the Furtado line). I don't know
which line is correct, but portuguese genealogists say that the Furtado de
Mendoza line in Portugal has began with the son of Don Diego, Fernão
Furtado.
Do you know where we can find the most ancient quotation of this 1242
document?. What is the actual name on the document? Can we know it?
I feel that something is missing and mixed up. I also read that the name
Iñigo Lopez became very common in the Mendoza family after the battle of
Najera (3 April 1367) when Pedro the Cruel murdered Iñigo Lopez de Orozco
in cold blood after he surrendered on the battlefield. Orozco was uncle of
Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza, father of Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, grandfather
of Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza ( M. Santillana). After this episode (1367)
generations of Mendoza sons would bear the name Iñigo Lopez, says the
author.
Manoel
Francisco Antonio Doria
>Do you know where we can find the most ancient quotation of this 1242
>document?. What is the actual name on the document? Can we know it?
>I feel that something is missing and mixed up. I also read that the name
>Iñigo Lopez became very common in the Mendoza family after the battle of
>Najera (3 April 1367) when Pedro the Cruel murdered Iñigo Lopez de Orozco
>in cold blood after he surrendered on the battlefield. Orozco was uncle of
>Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza, father of Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, grandfather
>of Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza ( M. Santillana). After this episode (1367)
>generations of Mendoza sons would bear the name Iñigo Lopez, says the
>author.
>
>Manoel
Below I give (sorry, in Portuguese, but that's the way I have it on-line)
the earliest Portuguese generations of the Furtados de Mendoça in
Portugal. I got them from Anselmo Braancamp Freire; he refers to Salazar
y Castro for the 1242 document. Has it been transcribed by Salazar? IIRC,
he mentions that in the _Lara_ and in the _Farnese_ books.
Most early Portuguese dates can be documentally established.
chico
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FERNÃO FURTADO
Seu nome consta, como Fernão Iñiguez de Mendoza, de uma escritura de
1242. Passa a Portugal antes de 1278, quando é localizado na casa de D.
Diniz, ainda infante. C.c. D. Guiomar Afonso de Rezende.
-----
Note: this marriage to Guiomar Afonso de Rezende can be documentally
established, re. Sotomayor Pizarro, _Linhagens Medievais..._, 1999.
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RUI FERNANDES FURTADO
Era escudeiro em 1320, e residia no Porto. C.c. D. Leonor Martins, filha
de Martim Gil, dito de Vilela [?].
FERNÃO FURTADO
Escudeiro, senhor da honra de Pedroselo, confirmada em 1342. C.c. ...
AFONSO FURTADO
Criado de D. Pedro I; nomeado ³capitão do mar² por D. João I em 1385.
Falecera antes de 1423, sendo anadel-mor dos besteiros. C.c...
-----
This individual is also documentally certified.
-----
AFONSO FURTADO
Anadel-mor dos besteiros, Ý antes de 1476. C.(1) c. Constança Nogueira,
filha de Afonso Anes Nogueira. C. (2) com D. Beatriz de Vilarragut, dama
da casa da mulher do infante D. Pedro.
NUNO FURTADO DE MENDOÇA
Já em 1466 aposentador-mor de D. Afonso V. Dele descendem os principais
ramos dos Mendoças (duques de Loulé, condes de Val de Reis, condes de
Azambuja). C.c. D. Leonor da Silva, filha de Fernão Martins de Carvalhal,
alcaide-mor de Tavira.
Manoel Cesar Furtado
P. Marin-Guzman wrote
>
> -------- Manoel, I've got 'De la nobleza vieja a la nobleza nueva
(Salvador
> de Moxó) Madrid 1969, and the Tree of the de Lara family which, together
> with other data within the book. I can send to you (and Chico) as a pdf
> file. Alternatively I can post it to the group, if anyone else is
> interested.
>
> I've also got the newly published manuscript of Pedro Barrantes Maldonado
> written in 1541, in which several mentions are made of the Hurtado de
> Mendoza family.
>
> I won't be able to do this for some hours, but it may/may not clarify this
> for you.
>
> Pedro
>
Dear Pedro, I'll be very glad if you send it as .pdf. What do you have from
Pedro Barrantes Maldonado on the Hurtado de Mendoza family?
Thanks.
Manoel
Manoel Cesar Furtado
>Below I give (sorry, in Portuguese, but that's the way I have it on-line)
>the earliest Portuguese generations of the Furtados de Mendoça in
>Portugal. I got them from Anselmo Braancamp Freire; he refers to Salazar
>y Castro for the 1242 document. Has it been transcribed by Salazar? IIRC,
>he mentions that in the _Lara_ and in the _Farnese_ books.
>Most early Portuguese dates can be documentally established.
>chico
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>FERNÃO FURTADO
>Seu nome consta, como Fernão Iñiguez de Mendoza, de uma escritura de
>1242. Passa a Portugal antes de 1278, quando é localizado na casa de D.
>Diniz, ainda infante. C.c. D. Guiomar Afonso de Rezende.
-----
>Note: this marriage to Guiomar Afonso de Rezende can be documentally
>established, re. Sotomayor Pizarro, _Linhagens Medievais..._, 1999.
Francisco,
Salazar doesn't mention this document of 1242. The only date on the page is
1253, related to a brother of Fernan Furtado.
A coincidence to be noticed: Salazar says that Fernando Perez Furtado (the
son of Urraca, 1115-20?) was married to D. Guiomar Alonso. The Salazar's
source in 1694 was Salazar de Mendoza.
Manoel
P. Marin-Guzman
>
> In the facsimile I have from "Historia Genealogica de la Casa de Lara"
> there's no Iñigo. And I have to make a rectification: I said that Salazar
> names Don Diego Lopez de Mendoza as Admiral, but I am wrong. He says that
> his brother Don Ruy Lopez de Mendoza was "Almirante de Castilla".
> Pavel Pokorný has told me about a site (now out of work, it seems) of the
> first Mendozas, compiled by José L.G. de Paz from "Historia Genealógica de
> la Casa de Mendoza ( Diego G. Coronel), Historia de Guadalajara y sus
> Mendoza en los Siglos XV y XVI ( Francisco Layna), De nobleza vieja a
> nobleza nueva ( Slavador de Moxó), and others.
> Here's what I've got from the site:
-------- Manoel, I've got 'De la nobleza vieja a la nobleza nueva (Salvador
Evert Dijkema
The de Lara family keeps coming up in this newsgroup from time to time, so I
suppose that several people will be interested and that posting it to the group
would be a good idea. I certainly am - and if you decide not to post it
generally, I should be most grateful for receiving it privately.
Thank you very much, best regards, Evert Dijkema, Amsterdam
P. Marin-Guzman schreef:
> ... Manoel, I've got 'De la nobleza vieja a la nobleza nueva (Salvador de
> Moxó) Madrid 1969, and the Tree of the de Lara family which, together with
> other data within the book. I can send to you (and Chico) as a pdf file.
> Alternatively I can post it to the group, if anyone else is
> interested. ...
>
> Pedro
Francisco Antonio Doria
>Salazar doesn't mention this document of 1242. The only date on the page is
>1253, related to a brother of Fernan Furtado.
>
>A coincidence to be noticed: Salazar says that Fernando Perez Furtado (the
>son of Urraca, 1115-20?) was married to D. Guiomar Alonso. The Salazar's
>source in 1694 was Salazar de Mendoza.
My reference is Braancamp Freire. Right now I'm in Rio, so I don't have
it here with me. I now wonder whether they originally had any Mendoza
blood, since the name Furtado de Mendoça is only documented in Portugal
in the late 14th century... Might be a confusion.
chico
Francisco Antonio Doria
I think I now understand where the problem lies: one might have, I wonder:
1. D. Iñigo [some patronymic to be settled] de Mendoza. *Has to be in the
Furtado line*. Probably a son of D. Leonor Hurtada. Son:
2. Fernando Iñiguez de Mendoza, the one in the 1242 document. Son:
3. Fernão Furtado, in 1278 in Portugal. M. Guiomar Resende. Two children:
Rui and Fernando. Rui is the name of two of the admirals of Castille in
the Mendoza line.
I would settle for that line. This would however go against the Moxó
reconstruction (thanks, P. Marin-Guzmán!)
chico