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The emigrant Thomas Baugh of Henrico Co. Virginia and his medieval ancestry
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John P. Ravilious
Jan 30, 2017, 10:21:56 AM1/30/17
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Hello All,
The recent thread concerning the Farrar ancestry of Neil Patrick Harris brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677). Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter (possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being “absent in Virginia, 1634” [1]. This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila! “Mary Baugh” (sometimes “Mary Pigott Baugh”) now appears in webpages from geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to date to support this theory, I’d be most interested in hearing of it.
That being said, the emigrant Thomas Baugh does have some interesting ancestry. In addition to the possible descent from the Earls of Arundel via Crocker of Hook Norton, Oxon. [2] there is an extensive range of medieval ancestry for Baugh’s maternal grandmother Margaret Newport, wife of Thomas Copley of Bredon’s Norton, co. Worcs. including a line from Edward I of England via Bohun, Talbot and Barre. One of the more interesting lines is the descent via Cornwall of Burford:
1. John, King of England = Isabella of Angouleme
2. Richard of England, King of Germany = NN (not married)
3. Sir Richard de Cornwall , of Thonock, Lincs. d. 1296 = Joan
4. Sir Geoffrey de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Margaret de Mortimer
5. Sir Richard de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Sibyl de Bodrugan
6. Sir Geoffrey de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. d. 1365 = Cecily
7. Richard Cornwall, Esq., of Burford, Salop. d. 1443 = Alice
8. Sir Edmund Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. dvp 1436
= (2) Elizabeth Barre (desc. Edward I)
9. Sir Thomas Cornwall, of Burford, Salop.
= Elizabeth Lenthall [desc. Henry II]
10. Sir Edmund Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Mary Hoord
11. Anne Cornwall = Peter Blount, Esq., of Sodington
12. Elizabeth Blount = George Newport, son of William Newport
of Rushock, Worcs., dvp 1558/9
13. Margaret Newport = Thomas Copley of Bredon’s Norton, Worcs.
14. Eleanor Copley = John Baugh, son of Rowland Baugh, Esq.,
of Twyning, Glouc.
15. Thomas Baugh, emigrant to Virginia 1621
Cheers,
John
Notes
[1] Walter C. Metcalfe, F.S.A., ed., The Visitation of the County of Worcester (Exeter: William Pollard, 1883), p. 11.
[2] See D. Richardson, Royal Ancestry (Salt Lake City, 2013), vol. III pp. 341-6. The marriage of Thomas Baugh’s paternal grandparents, Rowland Baugh, Esq. of Twyning and Mary [Margery?] Croker, or Crocker, is noted on p. 346.
The recent thread concerning the Farrar ancestry of Neil Patrick Harris brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677). Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter (possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being “absent in Virginia, 1634” [1]. This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila! “Mary Baugh” (sometimes “Mary Pigott Baugh”) now appears in webpages from geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to date to support this theory, I’d be most interested in hearing of it.
That being said, the emigrant Thomas Baugh does have some interesting ancestry. In addition to the possible descent from the Earls of Arundel via Crocker of Hook Norton, Oxon. [2] there is an extensive range of medieval ancestry for Baugh’s maternal grandmother Margaret Newport, wife of Thomas Copley of Bredon’s Norton, co. Worcs. including a line from Edward I of England via Bohun, Talbot and Barre. One of the more interesting lines is the descent via Cornwall of Burford:
1. John, King of England = Isabella of Angouleme
2. Richard of England, King of Germany = NN (not married)
3. Sir Richard de Cornwall , of Thonock, Lincs. d. 1296 = Joan
4. Sir Geoffrey de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Margaret de Mortimer
5. Sir Richard de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Sibyl de Bodrugan
6. Sir Geoffrey de Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. d. 1365 = Cecily
7. Richard Cornwall, Esq., of Burford, Salop. d. 1443 = Alice
8. Sir Edmund Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. dvp 1436
= (2) Elizabeth Barre (desc. Edward I)
9. Sir Thomas Cornwall, of Burford, Salop.
= Elizabeth Lenthall [desc. Henry II]
10. Sir Edmund Cornwall, of Burford, Salop. = Mary Hoord
11. Anne Cornwall = Peter Blount, Esq., of Sodington
12. Elizabeth Blount = George Newport, son of William Newport
of Rushock, Worcs., dvp 1558/9
13. Margaret Newport = Thomas Copley of Bredon’s Norton, Worcs.
14. Eleanor Copley = John Baugh, son of Rowland Baugh, Esq.,
of Twyning, Glouc.
15. Thomas Baugh, emigrant to Virginia 1621
Cheers,
John
Notes
[1] Walter C. Metcalfe, F.S.A., ed., The Visitation of the County of Worcester (Exeter: William Pollard, 1883), p. 11.
[2] See D. Richardson, Royal Ancestry (Salt Lake City, 2013), vol. III pp. 341-6. The marriage of Thomas Baugh’s paternal grandparents, Rowland Baugh, Esq. of Twyning and Mary [Margery?] Croker, or Crocker, is noted on p. 346.
wjhonson
Jan 30, 2017, 1:14:13 PM1/30/17
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The ascent of Edmund Cornwall of Burford also includes France, Scotland and the curious case of Jean de Brienne the Latin Emperor of Constantinople, through his maternal grandmother Lucy Grey
Paulo Canedo
Jan 31, 2017, 11:14:10 AM1/31/17
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D. Spencer Hines
Jan 31, 2017, 1:59:59 PM1/31/17
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"Paulo Canedo" wrote in message
news:7a15635d-9a8c-4b29...@googlegroups.com...
"The recent thread concerning the Farrar ancestry of Neil Patrick Harris
brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677).
Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his
theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other
surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter
(possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from
England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College
land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of
the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being "absent in Virginia, 1634" [1].
This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila!
"Mary Baugh" (sometimes "Mary Pigott Baugh") now appears in webpages from
geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to
date to support this theory, I'd be most interested in hearing of it."
Some sources seem to have the wife of Colonel William Farrar II [c.
1626-c.1676] as Mary Williams, daughter of John Williams and Mary Womack.
What do you make of that?
DSH
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963
news:7a15635d-9a8c-4b29...@googlegroups.com...
"The recent thread concerning the Farrar ancestry of Neil Patrick Harris
brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677).
Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his
theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other
surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter
(possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from
England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College
land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of
the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being "absent in Virginia, 1634" [1].
This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila!
"Mary Baugh" (sometimes "Mary Pigott Baugh") now appears in webpages from
geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to
date to support this theory, I'd be most interested in hearing of it."
1626-c.1676] as Mary Williams, daughter of John Williams and Mary Womack.
What do you make of that?
DSH
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963
paulcr...@gmail.com
Jan 31, 2017, 3:33:51 PM1/31/17
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While I'm on here (concerning Aston), I would like to add that this Baugh family in Worcestershire were closely associated with and related to a constellation of families who settled in Henrico County, Virginia. I had exhaustively searched the probate records, and it became clear that there is an error in the published visitation, e.g., one brother is mistakenly credited with children, while they actually belong to another brother.
It is curious that some members of the families that belong to this constellation of families were crypto-Catholic, so presumably belonged to those who had Cavalier sentiments.
Paul
It is curious that some members of the families that belong to this constellation of families were crypto-Catholic, so presumably belonged to those who had Cavalier sentiments.
Paul
Steve Riggan
Feb 1, 2017, 3:59:05 AM2/1/17
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This line is of interest to me as I also descend from William Farrar (descendant of Edward III) and Mary (possibly Baugh?) through their son Thomas Farrar as does John Ravilious. I was not aware that the Baugh line had been proven to Edward I, but making note to view more posts on this.
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steven perkins
Feb 1, 2017, 7:35:14 AM2/1/17
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I am interested in the Mary Womack, wife of John Williams mentioned in
Spencer Hines' reply. I supposedly descend from Abraham Womack and Sarah
Worsham of Henrico co., VA. Sarah is said to be a daughter of John Worsham
and Elizabeth Littleberry. How might Mary Womack Williams be related to
Abraham Womack?
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Spencer Hines' reply. I supposedly descend from Abraham Womack and Sarah
Worsham of Henrico co., VA. Sarah is said to be a daughter of John Worsham
and Elizabeth Littleberry. How might Mary Womack Williams be related to
Abraham Womack?
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D. Spencer Hines d_spenc...@america.com via
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en>
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"Paulo Canedo" wrote in message
news:7a15635d-9a8c-4b29...@googlegroups.com...
news:7a15635d-9a8c-4b29...@googlegroups.com...
"The recent thread concerning the Farrar ancestry of Neil Patrick Harris
brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677).
Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his
theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other
surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter
(possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from
England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College
land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of
the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being "absent in Virginia, 1634" [1].
This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila!
"Mary Baugh" (sometimes "Mary Pigott Baugh") now appears in webpages from
geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to
date to support this theory, I'd be most interested in hearing of it."
brings up the matter of Mary, wife of Col. William Farrar (d. ca 1677).
Some years ago in discussing the matter with a Farrar cousin, he noted his
theory that she was of the Baugh family (vs. Pigott and numerous other
surnames found on the internet). I suggested that she might be a daughter
(possibly the only issue) of Thomas Baugh, known to have emigrated from
England on the Supply in 1620 (arrived 1621) and resident on the 'College
land' in 1624; he was identified in the Visitation of Worcester pedigree of
the Baughs of Twyning (Glouc.) as being "absent in Virginia, 1634" [1].
This possibility was evidently mentioned to other relations, and voila!
"Mary Baugh" (sometimes "Mary Pigott Baugh") now appears in webpages from
geni.com, wikitree and doubtless others. If any evidence has been found to
date to support this theory, I'd be most interested in hearing of it."
Some sources seem to have the wife of Colonel William Farrar II [c.
1626-c.1676] as Mary Williams, daughter of John Williams and Mary Womack.
What do you make of that?
DSH
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963
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1626-c.1676] as Mary Williams, daughter of John Williams and Mary Womack.
What do you make of that?
DSH
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963
--
Steven C. Perkins SCPe...@gmail.com http://stevencperkins.com/
Indigenous Peoples' Rights http://intelligent-internet.info/law/ipr2.html
Indigenous & Ethnic Minority Legal News http://iemlnews.blogspot.com/
Online Journal of Genetics and Genealogy http://jgg-online.blogspot.com/
S.C. Perkins' Genealogy Page http://stevencperkins.com/genealogy.html
S.C. Perkins' Genealogy Blog http://scpgen.blogspot.com/
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