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Leo van de Pas

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If William Shakespeare distorted history, Geoffrey Chaucer was
part of it. Sir Payn Roet came to England because of Philippa,
the wife of King Edward III. Sadly the name of his wife does not
seem to have survived. Sir Payn had at least one daughter,
Catherine 1350-1403 first the wife of Sir Hugh Swynford, then
mistress of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, and ending up
marrying him. However, Sir Payn is reputedly also the father
of Philippa, the wife of Geoffrey Chaucer.

Geoffrey Chaucer was brobably born in London, the son and grandson
of prosperous vintners who came from Ipswich, Suffolk. He became
a page in the service of Elizabeth, Countess of Ulster. Nothing
is known about his education but that he learned Latin and French.
On a military expedition to France in 1459, he was taken prisoner
in Reims and he had to be ransomed.

Circa 1366 he married Philippa, one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting
and probably sister of Catherine Roet. Geoffrey and Philippa possibly
had only two sons. In June 1367 Geoffrey Chaucer was recorded as
'Yeoman of the Chamber' in the king's household. One of his functions was
to entertain the court with stories, songs and music. When John of
Gaunt's first wife, Blanche, died, Chaucer wrote an elegy in her honour.

Geoffrey Chaucer, born circa 1345, died 25 October 1400 and was
buried in Westminster Abbey, married Philippa
child:
Generation I
1.Thomas Chaucer, of Ewelme
died 1434
married Maud de Burghersh
daughter Generation II

Generation II
1.Alice Chaucer
born circa 1404, died 20 May 1475 (9 June 1475 ?)
married (1)
Sir John Philip
died 2 October 1415 Harfleur
married (2) before November 1424
Thomas Montagu, 4th Earl of Salisbury
son of John Montagu, 3rd Earl of Salisbury and Maud Francis
born 1388, died 3 November 1428 Meung
married (3) contract 11 November 1430
William de La Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk
son of Michael de La Pole, 2nd Earl of Suffolk and Katherine Stafford
born 16 October 1396 Cotton, Suffolk, murdered 2 May 1450 off Dover
children Generation III

Generation III
3rd marriage
1.Anne de La Pole
married Gaillard IV de Durfort, Seigneur de Duras et de Blanquefort
son of Gaillard III de Durfort and Indie de La Lande
children, Generation IV-1

2.John de La Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk
born 27 September 1442, died 29 October 1491/27 October 1492
married (1) ca.28 January 1449, Divorced ca.1452
Lady Margaret Beaufort, daughter of John Beaufort, 1st Duke
of Somerset and Margaret Beauchamp
born 31 May 1443 Bletso, Herts., died 29 June 1509 Westminster
married (2) October 1460
Elizabeth of York, daughter of Richard, 3rd Duke of York,
and Cicely Nevill
born 22 April 1444 Rouen, died circa January 1503
children, Generation IV-2

IV-1.
1.Aimeric de Durfort
died between 1453 and 1476

2.Jean de Durfort, Seigneur de Duras
died 12 April 1520
married (1) contract 13 December 1478
Jeanne Angevin, daughter of Bernard Angevin, Seigneur de Rauzan
and Marguerite de Montferrand
died between 4 November 1502 and 25 June 1504
married (2) contract 9 May 1513
Catherine de Foix, daughter of Corbeyran de Foix and Jeanne
de Le Roque
died after 1522
CHILDREN

3.Georges de Durfort, Seigneur de Tilh, de Tirou, de Bussac
died March 1525
married 1518 Jacquette du Puy du Fou
childless

4.Marguerite de Durfort
mentioned 1476 and 1481
married 9 February 1481 Jean de Saint-Gelais, Seigneur de
Mauleon et de Saint-Aulaye
CHILDREN
IV-2.
1.John de La Pole, Earl of Lincoln
born 1462, died in battle 16 June 1487 Stoke
married Lady Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan,
16th Earl of Arundel and Margaret Widville
died after 1528
childless
2.Edward de La Pole, Archdeacon of Richmond
died before 8 October 1485

3.Edmund de La Pole, 3rd Duke of Suffolk
born circa 1471, beheaded 4 May 1513 Tower Hill
married before 10 October 1496
Margaret Scrope, daughter of Sir Richard Scrope, of Bentley
and Eleanor Washbourn
died February 1515
child : Lady Elizabth de La Pole

4.Humphrey de La Pole
born 1 August 1474, died before 15 February 1513

5.William de La Pole
born circa 1478, died before 20 November 1539 Tower of London
married circa 1497 Catherine Stourton, daughter of William
Stourton, 2nd Lord Stourton, and Margaret Chidiock
died 25 November 1521 London
childless

6.Geoffrey de La Pole

7.Richard de La Pole
died 24 February 1525 Pavia (killed)

8.Lady Catherine de La Pole
married William Stourton, 5th Lord Stourton, son of William
Stourton, 2nd Lord Stourton, and Margaret Chidiock
died 17 February 1524
childless

9.Lady Anne de La Pole

10.Lady Dorothy de La Pole

11.Lady Elizabeth de La Pole
married Henry Lovel, 8th Lord Morley, son of William Lovel
and Eleonore, 7th Baroness Morley
born circa 1466, died in battle 13 June 1489 Dixmude
childless

Sources :
The Complete Peerage

Cahiers de Saint Louis

Europaischen Stammtafeln (Schwennicke)

Amongst the above descendants only two, Jean de Durfort and his
sister Marguerite de Durfort, have produced descendants to the
present and amongst these we can find :


Dr. Otto von Habsburg, b.1912
Jean, Grand Duke of Luxemburg, b.1921
Rainier III, Prince of Monaco, b.1923
Charles Hugues, Duke of Parma, b.1930
Francois de Rochechouart, 15.Duc de Mortemart, b.1930
Franz, Duke of Bavaria, b.1933
Albert II, King of Belgium, b.1934
Anton, 13th Furst Esterhazy de Galantha, b.1936
Prince Vittorio Emanuele de Savoie, b.1937
Simeon II, King of Bulgaria, b.1937
Henri Jacques de Caumont, 14.Duc de la Force, b.1944
Hans Adam II, Furst von und zu Liechtenstein, b.1945
Princess Michael of Kent, b.1945
Duarte, Duke of Braganca, b.1945
Albert, 12th Furst von Thurn und Taxis, b.1983

William Shakespeare, where are you? Try to better this!!
Leo van de Pas


John Steele Gordon

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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Leo van de Pas wrote:

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> Amongst the above descendants only two, Jean de Durfort and his
> sister Marguerite de Durfort, have produced descendants to the
> present and amongst these we can find :
>
> Dr. Otto von Habsburg, b.1912
> Jean, Grand Duke of Luxemburg, b.1921
> Rainier III, Prince of Monaco, b.1923
> Charles Hugues, Duke of Parma, b.1930
> Francois de Rochechouart, 15.Duc de Mortemart, b.1930
> Franz, Duke of Bavaria, b.1933
> Albert II, King of Belgium, b.1934
> Anton, 13th Furst Esterhazy de Galantha, b.1936
> Prince Vittorio Emanuele de Savoie, b.1937
> Simeon II, King of Bulgaria, b.1937
> Henri Jacques de Caumont, 14.Duc de la Force, b.1944
> Hans Adam II, Furst von und zu Liechtenstein, b.1945
> Princess Michael of Kent, b.1945
> Duarte, Duke of Braganca, b.1945
> Albert, 12th Furst von Thurn und Taxis, b.1983
>
> William Shakespeare, where are you? Try to better this!!

I'm afraid he can't.

He had three children:

Susanna, bap. May 26 1583 and Hamnet and Judith (twins) who were baptised Feb 2
1585.

Hamnet died in 1596. Susanna married John Hall (1575-1635) "a physician of some
reputation" and had one child, Elizabeth, born in 1608. Judith married Thomas
Quiney, a vintner. She had three sons, all of whom were d.s.p. by 1639.

Elizabeth Hall married twice, first to Thomas Nash in 1626. He died in 1647. In
1649 she married John Bernard of Abingdon Manor, Northamptonshire. He was
knighted in 1661. She had no children by either husband. Elizabeth, Lady
Bernard, died in 1670, taking with her to the grave the last living genes of
William Shakespeare.

Shakespeare had several siblings. His sister Joan married John Hart, and their
heirs inherited Shakespeare's houses in Stratford. Their descendants are still
around. Whether the well-known Connecticut Hart family is related, I do not
know.

Sources: EB and Marchette Chute's "Shakespeare of London," still probably the
best one-volume biography, although it is now nearly fifty years old.

John Steele Gordon

P. Freeman

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In article <35F154A7...@worldnet.att.net>,

John Steele Gordon <kabo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Leo van de Pas wrote:
>> William Shakespeare, where are you? Try to better this!!

>He had three children:

[snip]

>Elizabeth Hall married twice, first to Thomas Nash in 1626. He died in 1647.
>In 1649 she married John Bernard of Abingdon Manor, Northamptonshire.

Query : there is no "Abingdon" in Northants.
At *Abington*, about 2 miles east of the town centre of Northampton, there
is an old Manor House (now a museum) and a rather fine park (altho' the deer
have long gone). Is this the one?

Info. from http://www.civictrust.org.uk/emid.htm follows :
"NORTHAMPTON
Abington Museum, Abington Park, Park Avenue South. Grade I listed manor
house with parts dating from the 15th C and particularly notable 16th C
oak panelling. Set in Northampton's premier park. Now a museum featuring
displays of Northampton life - special exhibition to mark the Park's
centenary.

Abington Park
The gift of Lady Wantage to the people of Northampton, celebrating its
centenary. It encompasses the Museum, Church of St Peter and St Paul and
the remains of an abandoned medieval village. David Garrick planted a
mulberry tree here."


Pete Freeman,
University of Leeds

John Steele Gordon

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P. Freeman wrote:

> >Elizabeth Hall married twice, first to Thomas Nash in 1626. He died in 1647.
> >In 1649 she married John Bernard of Abingdon Manor, Northamptonshire.
>
> Query : there is no "Abingdon" in Northants.
> At *Abington*, about 2 miles east of the town centre of Northampton, there
> is an old Manor House (now a museum) and a rather fine park (altho' the deer
> have long gone). Is this the one?

You are quite correct. EB says "John Bernard of Abing*t*on Manor,
Northamptonshire." I used to live quite close to Abingdon Square in Greenwich
Village, named for the Earl of Abingdon. Perhaps my fingers fell into old habits.

If the park has no deer, I cordially invite the gamekeepers to come to my garden
any night at their convenience and help themselves to as many thousand of the
damn beasts as they can be persuaded to haul away. They are considerably more
beautiful than grasshoppers, but no less a plague for that. Grasshoppers, at
least, don't weigh over a hundred pounds each.

Thanks for the correction.

JSG


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