BACON, THORPE, de MESCHINE, de BACUNSTHORPE
Terry Reigel
Apr 1648 in Dedham, Massachusetts, m Alice, b. Abt. 1581, d. 2 Apr 1648. I
have assembled the following ancestory for him from a number of sources.
Can anyone can confirm or correct what I have found? I also have several
specific questions which I have inserted at the appropriate places in the
list.
1. Michael Bacon b. 6 Dec 1579 d. 18 Apr 1648.
2. Michael Bacon b. Abt. 1544 d. 25 Mar 1615
3. Elizabeth Wylie.
4. John Bacon b. Bet. 1507 - 1509 d. 19 Mar 1556/57
5. Margaret b. Abt. 1512 d. 1558.
8. Thomas Bacon b. Abt. 1480 d. 28 Feb 1539/40
9. Joan Wade b. Abt. 1484 d. 1540.
16. John Bacon b. Abt. 1430 d. 1500
17. Agnes Cockfield b. Abt. 1457.
32. Edmund Bacon b. Abt. 1400 d. 1453
33. Elizabeth Crofts b. Abt. 1405.
34. Sir Thomas Cockfield b. Abt. 1415
64. John Bacon b. 1390 d. 1453
65. Margery Thorpe b. Abt. 1392.
Both this John Bacon and Margery Thorpe seem to have interesting ancestorys
according to what I've found. I have John's continuing:
1. John Bacon b. 1390 d. 1453
2. John Bacon b. 1360
3. Helena Tillot b. Abt. 1364
4. John Bacon b. 1330
5. Helena Gedding b. 1333.
6. George Tillot b. Abt. 1344.
8. John Bacon b. 1300
9. Cicily Hoo b. 1305
Is Cicily linked to the other Hoos of around the same time period that have
been discussed recently in the ng?
16. John Bacon b. 1272
17. Alice b. Abt. 1275
32. Robert Bacon b. 1245
33. Alice Burgate b. 1250.
64. Robert Kimber Bacon b. 1214 d. 11 Jun 1294
128. Ralph Reynolds de Bacon b. 1190
256. Ranauf de Bacon b. 1160.
I have Margery Thorpe's ancestory continuing:
1. Margery Thorpe b. Abt. 1392.
2. John Thorpe b. Abt. 1372
4. William Thorpe.
5. Margery Quadladdle
8. Sir William Thorpe
9. Beatrice Bacon
10. John Quadladdle.
18. Sir Rodger Bacon
19. Felicia Kirton.
36. Sir Henry Bacon
37. Margaret Ludlam.
72. Sir Henry Bacon b. 1270
144. Thomas Bacon
145. Elizabeth
288. Robert Bacon
289. ? d'Ingram
576. Richard Bacon
577. Alice de Moulton.
578. Richard d'Ingram.
1152. Reginald Bacon
1153. ? de Meschine She is supposed to be the daughter of Hugh De
Meschine and Berta d'Evereux, according to one source I found. However,
this seems doubtful, since most sources showing that couple identify the
husbands of all their daughters, none of which is Reginald Bacon.
2304. Robert de Bacunsthorpe
4608. Roger de Bacunsthorpe
9216. George de Bacunsthorpe
Assuming any of this is factual, is there any link between the Bacon
ancestors of John Bacon (b. 1390) and the Bacon/de Bacunsthorpe ancestors
of his wife, Margery Thorpe?
Terry Reigel
Brent Miller
What you present is very close to that given by Hervey Townshend in "The
Bacons of Virginia and Their English Ancestry, " NEHGR, Vol. 37 (1883),
pp. 189-98 (end notes by John Coffin Jones Brown). He connects George
de Bacunsthorpe (your no. 9216) as son of Ranauf de Bacon (your no. 256)
and makes Grimbaldus of Letheringsete, Norfolk (d. 1087) as Ranauf’s
father. The number of generations between Margery Thorpe (your no. 65)
and Ranauf is greater than between John Bacon (your no. 64) and Ranauf.
Terry Reigel
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>What you present is very close to that given by Hervey Townshend in "The
>Bacons of Virginia and Their English Ancestry, " NEHGR, Vol. 37 (1883),
>pp. 189-98 (end notes by John Coffin Jones Brown). He connects George
>de Bacunsthorpe (your no. 9216) as son of Ranauf de Bacon (your no. 256)
>and makes Grimbaldus of Letheringsete, Norfolk (d. 1087) as Ranauf's
>father.
Thanks for the help. That's been bugging me for a while and I hadn't been
able to connect the dots.
Any suggestions on how one gets his hands on a copy of the reference if he
lives hours away from any serious library?
I assume that Townshend does not show the alleged de Meschine daughter as
Reginald Bacon's wife?
>The number of generations between Margery Thorpe (your no. 65)
>and Ranauf is greater than between John Bacon (your no. 64) and Ranauf.
Yes, 13 versus 7. Can that be right? Without dates for most of the
generations in Margery's line, it's hard to judge. I get his line averaging
28 years per generation, while hers is just over 16
Terry.