Edward III Alleged Descent To Lee Marvin

[D. Spencer Hines]

American actor and Academy Award winner, Lee Marvin [1924-1987] is an
alleged descendant of Edward III as follows below.

Selective Filmography: The Big Heat [1953] Director Fritz Lang; The Wild One
[1953] w/Brando; Bad Day At Black Rock [1955] w/Spencer Tracy; The Man Who
Shot Liberty Valance [1962] Director John Ford, w/ John Wayne & Jimmy
Stewart [Marvin as Liberty Valance]; The Killers [1964]; Cat Ballou [1965]
Dual-Role, Academy Award Best Actor; The Professionals [1966]; The Dirty
Dozen [1967]; Point Blank [1967] Superb Film; Hell In The Pacific [1968]
w/Toshino Mifune; Director John Boorman, Classic Two-Man Film.


Lee Marvin is the Alleged 18th great-grandson of EDWARD III King of England

Common Ancestor

* EDWARD III King of England
(1312-1377)
* Philippa de Hainault
(1310-1369)
Married 24 Jan 1328
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* John of Gaunt 1st Duke of Lancaster
(1340-1399)
Katherine Roet
(Cir 1350-1403)
Married 13 Jan 1396
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Ralph de Neville 1st Earl of Westmoreland
(1364-1425)
* Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmoreland
(Abt 1379-1440)
Married 3 Feb 1396
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* Sir Edward Neville 1st & 3rd Baron Bergavenny
(Cir 1417-1476)
Katherine Howard
(Cir 1428-After 1478)
Married 15 Oct 1448
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Robert Tanfield
(1461- )
* Katherine Neville
(Cir 1452-Bef 1473)
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* William Tanfield
Isabel Stavely
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* Francis Tanfield
Bridget Cave
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Clement Vincent
* Anne Tanfield
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Richard Lane II
* Elizabeth Vincent
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William Randel Randolph
(1572-1660)
* Dorothy Lane
(1589-1656)
Married 30 Mar 1619
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* Richard Randolph
(1627-1671)
Elizabeth Ryland
(1630- )
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* Colonel William Randolph of Virginia
(1650-1711)
Mary Isham
(1660-1735)
Married 1680
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The Honorable Richard Bland
(1665-1720)
* Elizabeth Randolph
(1680-1720)
Married 11 Feb 1702
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Captain Henry Lee
(1686-1747)
* Mary Elizabeth Bland
(1703-1764)
Married 1722
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* Major General Henry Giles Lee II
(1730-1787)
Lucy Grymes
(1734-1792)
Married 1753
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* Richard Bland Lee
(1761-1827)
Elizabeth Collins
(Cir 1768-1858)
Married 20 Jun 1794
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Dr. Bailey Washington III
(1787-1854)
* Ann Matilda Lee
(1799-1880)
Married 26 Nov 1829
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Walter Dorsey Davidge
(1823-1901)
* Anna Louise Washington
(Cir 1837-1885)
Married 1862
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* William Fendall Davidge
(1871- )
Estelle Courtenay Washington
(1875- )
Married Cir 1896
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Lamont Waltman Marvin
(1896-1971)
* Courtenay Washington Davidge
(1896-1960)
Married Cir 1922
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* Lee Marvin
(1924-1987)

"Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and
thine often infirmities."

Saint Paul 1 Timothy 5:23

"Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and
thine often infirmities."

Saint Paul 1 Timothy 5:23

[Olivier]

Lee Marvin 1924-1987

Génération 2

3 - Courtenay Washington Davidge 1896-1960

Génération 3

6 - William Fendall Davidge ca 1855

Génération 4

13 - Anna Washington ca 1825

Génération 5

27 - Ann Matilda Lee 1790-1880

Génération 6

54 - Richard Bland Lee 1760

Génération 7

108 - Henry Lee 1729-1787

Génération 8

216 - Henry Lee ca 1691-1747
217 - Mary Bland 1704-1764

Génération 9

432 - Richard Lee 1647-1714
435 - Elizabeth Randolph 1680-1720

Génération 10

865 - Ann Constable 1621-1706
870 - William Randolph 1650-1711

Génération 11

1 730 - Francis Constable 1592-1647
1 740 - Richard Randolph 1621-1678

Génération 12

3 460 - Robert Constable ca 1565
3 481 - Dorothy Lane 1589

Génération 13

6 920 - Philip Constable 1547-1619
6 963 - Elizabeth Vincent

Génération 14

13 840 - Marmaduke Constable ca 1533-1573
13 841 - Jane Conyers 1522-1558
13 927 - Anne Tanfield

Génération 15

27 681 - Catherine Manners 1511-1547
27 682 - Christopher, Baron Conyers 1491-1538
27 683 - Anne Dacre 1500-1548
27 854 - Francis Tanfield 1508-1558

Génération 16

55 363 - Anne St. Leger 1476-1526
55 364 - William, Baron Conyers 1468-1524
55 365 - Anne Nevill
55 367 - Elizabeth Greystock 1471-1516
55 708 - William Tanfield 1489-1529

Génération 17

110 727 - Anne Plantagenêt 1439-1476
110 729 - Alix Nevill +1525
110 730 - Ralph Nevill, Earl of Westmorland 1456-1523
110 734 - Robert Greystock +1483
110 735 - Elizabeth Grey +1471
111 417 - Katherine Nevill ca 1450

Génération 18

221 454 - Richard of York, Duke of York 1411-1460
221 455 - Cecily Nevill 1415-1495
221 458 - William Nevill 1406-1463
221 461 - Anne Holland 1432-1486
221 468 - Ralph, baron Greystock 1414-1487
221 470 - Edmund Grey, Baron Grey de Ruthyn 1416-1490
221 471 - Katherine Percy 1423-1493
222 834 - Edward Nevill, Baron Bergavenny ca 1417-1476

Génération 19

442 908 - Richard of Conisburgh, Earl of Cambridge 1376-1415
442 909 - Anne Mortimer 1388-1411
442 911 - Joan Beaufort ca 1379-1440
442 922 - John Holland, Duke of Exeter 1395-1447
442 923 - Anne Stafford ca 1400-1432
442 937 - Elizabeth Ferrers 1392-1434
442 941 - Constance Holland 1387-1437
442 942 - Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland 1393-1455
442 943 - Eleanor Nevill 1403-1472

Génération 20

885 816 - Edmund of Langley, Duke of York 1341-1402
885 818 - Roger Mortimer, Earl of March 1374-1398
885 822 - John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 1340-1399
885 845 - Elizabeth Plantagenêt ca 1364-1425
885 847 - Anne Plantagenêt 1383-1438
885 885 - Elizabeth Mortimer 1371-1417

Génération 21

1 771 632 - Edward III of Windsor, King of England 1312-1377
1 771 637 - Philippa Plantagenêt 1355-1382
1 771 694 - Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester 1356-1397

Génération 22

3 543 274 - Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence 1338-1368

[D. Spencer Hines]

No, *everyone* is not descended from Edward III, particularly in any way
they can *prove* genealogically.

When pseudo-genealogists start to speculate rampantly and build fantasy on
top of fond hopes in a fragile and teetering tower of intersecting
hypotheses we get Word Salad of this kind:

> Even allowing the widest conceivable scope for hypocrisy on Hincmar's
> part, it is scarcely credible that he would have publicly contradicted
> his own recorded views by either omitting to mention even closer
> incest in a royal marriage than he roundly denounced in a more lowly
> couple around the same time. [Peter Stewart]

"I should have been clearer on this point - the floating 'either' in the
sentence should have been resolved..." [Peter Stewart]

Indeed.

Beware "The Floating Either" in either Genealogy or History.

It is a staple of both Genealogical & Historical Word Salad and Fraud.

D. Spencer Hines

Virtus et Honor

"Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and
thine often infirmities."

Saint Paul 1 Timothy 5:23

"Surreyman" wrote in message
news:173116db-9ada-4c8b...@googlegroups.com...

Isn't everyone?

[D. Spencer Hines]

Very useful additional information provided to the group by Olivier
Guionneau. Thank you very much.

Lee Marvin seems to have at least twelve [12] lines from Edward III and
perhaps there are more.

Marvin appears to be descended from at least four sons of Edward III:

Lionel of Antwerp Duke of Clarence
John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster
Edmund of Langley Duke of York
Thomas of Woodstock Duke of Gloucester

D. Spencer Hines

Exitus Acta Probat

"Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and
thine often infirmities."

Saint Paul 1 Timothy 5:23

"Olivier" wrote in message
news:db0731b5-9b1b-403e...@googlegroups.com...

[D. Spencer Hines]

What *matters* is the ability to trace line-by-line and
individual-by-individual the *precise relationship* of two individuals.

***Therefore, for example, to know that Oliver Cromwell 1st Lord Protector
of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland and John Hampden Patrie
Pater were first cousins is critical to both Genealogy & History.***

Further, knowing that the American actor Lee Marvin was a first cousin, four
times removed of General Robert E. Lee and was aware of it as well is
critical to understanding his psychology, possible motives and actions in
carving out his role in the History of American Popular Culture.

It's also interesting genealogically and perhaps somewhat counter-intuitive
to see he was also related to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson --
considering some of the roles Marvin played.

***...And it is fascinating to realize Queen Elizabeth II and President
George Washington Founder of His Country, are second cousins, seven times
removed -- and tends to show how closely connected we Americans are indeed
to our former British overlords.***

D, Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and
thine often infirmities."

Saint Paul 1 Timothy 5:23

"Peter Jason" wrote in message
news:m2fs6blpripfngcjo...@4ax.com...

>Isn't everyone?

Yes, especially when randy stable-hands, grooms, hall boys,
under-butlers, have their wicked ways with the lady of the house. One
day when DNA technologies are advanced, we'll learn some terrible
truths!

[Peter Jason]

>***...And it is fascinating to realize Queen Elizabeth II and President
>George Washington Founder of His Country, are second cousins, seven times
>removed -- and tends to show how closely connected we Americans are indeed
>to our former British overlords.***

Indeed one wonders why there was a Revolution in 1776 given the
connectivity of the two breeds. Those slave-owning lawyers like
Washington and Others should have been offered Dukedoms to sate their
ambitions and leave the country under law & order!
All thru the 1800s the USA guzzled at the financial teats of Britain
getting loans & more loans to finance expansion. So much for
independence!
Their vaulting ambition helped inspire the French Revolution after
which all the monkeys descended from the trees and fucked us all over.
This was the greatest cataclysm since the extinction of the dinosaurs!

[leslie...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 7:59:39 AM UTC-8, Olivier wrote:
> Lee Marvin 1924-1987
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> Génération 2
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> 3 - Courtenay Washington Davidge 1896-1960
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> Génération 3
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> 6 - William Fendall Davidge ca 1855
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> Génération 4
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> 13 - Anna Washington ca 1825
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> Génération 5
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> 27 - Ann Matilda Lee 1790-1880
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> Génération 6
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> 54 - Richard Bland Lee 1760
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> Génération 7
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> 108 - Henry Lee 1729-1787
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> Génération 8
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> 216 - Henry Lee ca 1691-1747
> 217 - Mary Bland 1704-1764
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> Génération 9
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> 432 - Richard Lee 1647-1714
> 435 - Elizabeth Randolph 1680-1720

Some corrections are needed here:

> Génération 10
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> 865 - Ann Constable 1621-1706
> 870 - William Randolph 1650-1711

"An interesting claim is made in many genealogies that one of Francis's daughters, Anne Constable, married Richard I Lee an important figure in the colony of Virginia,"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Constable#cite_note-8

> Génération 11
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> 1 730 - Francis Constable 1592-1647
> 1 740 - Richard Randolph 1621-1678
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> Génération 12
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> 3 460 - Robert Constable ca 1565
> 3 481 - Dorothy Lane 1589

Also "Francis Constable's grandfather was Robert I Constable, and he was a yeoman, a minor land owner and small prosperous farmer"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Constable#Francis_Constable.27s_father


The descent from Marmaduke Constable & Jane Conyers
apparently has no documentary evidence.
Therefore, many of the descents from Edward III are false.


Leslie