Complete Peerage Addition: Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley (living 1385)

[Douglas Richardson]

Dear Newsgroup ~

The following is an expanded version of an earlier post I made here on the newsgroup in 2010.

Complete Peerage, 1 (1910): 283-284 (sub Astley) has a brief account
of Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley, of Astley, Bentley,
Weddington, and Wolvey, Warwickshire. The death date of Sir Thomas de
Astley is apparently not known. Regarding his death date, Complete Peerage says only that Sir Thomas de Astley was "living 3 May 1366."

Sir Thomas de Astley was surely dead sometime before 1388, when his
son and heir, Sir William de Astley, was granted a license to grant a
rent charge of 40s. on his manor of Bentley, Warwickshire to the
collegiate church of Astley, Warwickshire [see Cal. Patent Rolls,
1385-1389 (1900): 485].

So exactly when did Sir Thomas de Astley die? Research in contemporary records indicates that he lived many years beyond 1366.

I find that Sir Thomas Astley presented to the churches of Astley, Warwickshire, 1366, Baxterley, Warwickshire, 1376, 1382, and Crick, Northamptonshire, 1378.

In 1368 he sued Master Henry de Bokyngham for the next presentation to the church of Crick, Northamptonshire.

He presented John de Wyngleye, clerk, as Canon of Erdbury 21 July 1381 [Reference: National Archives, E 326/5845; Ancient Deeds - Ser. B 2
(List & Index Soc. 101) (1974): B.5845].

The published and online versions of this record state that the date
of this document is 15 Richard II [1391-1392], which date is
impossible. As such, two years ago I consulted with Dr. Adrian Jobson, Medieval
Records Specialist with the National Archives, who kindly checked the
actual record. After checking the document, he stated that the
correct date of this record is 21 July 1381. He requested that
the record in the online Catalogue be changed to show the correct
date.

Sir Thomas de Astley presented Robert Page, priest to the deanery of the collegiate church of Astley, Warwickshire 28 April 1383. Reference: Dugdale, Antiquities of Warwickshire (1730): 113, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

http://books.google.com/books?id=EWhZAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Dugdale+Antiquities+of+Warwickshire&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7fMUU7_8GsupqwG8ioDIBw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dugdale%20Antiquities%20of%20Warwickshire&f=false

Sir Thomas de Astley was still living in 1385, when his younger son, Sir Thomas de Astley, was styled "Thomas de Asteleye the younger" in a legal action in the Court of Common Pleas. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/497, image 22f, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no497/497_0022.htm).

Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley, died before 13 Feb. 1387, when his son and heir, Sir William de Astley, 4th Lord Astley, presented to the deanery of the collegiate church of Astley, Warwickshire. Reference: Dugdale, Antiquities of Warwickshire (1730): 113, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

http://books.google.com/books?id=EWhZAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Dugdale+Antiquities+of+Warwickshire&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7fMUU7_8GsupqwG8ioDIBw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dugdale%20Antiquities%20of%20Warwickshire&f=false

Reviewing the above, we see that Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley, was living in 1385, and died before 13 Feb. 1387.

For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New
World immigrants that descend from Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord
Astley and his wife, Elizabeth de Beauchamp:

Barbara Aubrey, Christopher Batt, Elizabeth Bosvile, George, Giles &
Robert Brent, Charles Calvert, Matthew Clarkson, Humphrey Davie,
Muriel Gurdon, Mary Launce, Nathaniel Littleton, Percival Lowell,
Simon Lynde, Thomas Owsley, Mary Johanna Somerset.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

[joe...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:12:15 AM UTC-5, Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Dear Newsgroup ~
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> The following is an expanded version of an earlier post I made here on the newsgroup in 2010.
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> Complete Peerage, 1 (1910): 283-284 (sub Astley) has a brief account
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> of Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley, of Astley, Bentley,

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> http://books.google.com/books?id=EWhZAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Dugdale+Antiquities+of+Warwickshire&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7fMUU7_8GsupqwG8ioDIBw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dugdale%20Antiquities%20of%20Warwickshire&f=false
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> Reviewing the above, we see that Sir Thomas de Astley, 3rd Lord Astley, was living in 1385, and died before 13 Feb. 1387.

Thank you greatly Douglas.

Also "Reports and Papers of the Architectural and Archaeological ..., Volume 19" gives in a list of Lay Subsidy Roles, this footnote on Astley:
"Broughton Astley- Thomas de Astley, third Lord Astley, was summoned to parliment from 1342 to 1349. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Guy de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, and died in 1385. He erected a Collegiate church at Astley, co Warwick"

--JC