Ladies in waiting ---genealogy
Kathy
This is hard to pinpoint, what era and such, so if I'm posting in
the incorrect forum, just let me know and I'll repost in the correct
one. It has been said that one of my ancestors was a lady in waiting
in England, the exact time period hasn't been said to me, nor have I
come across the ancestor as of yet, who it could have been. I believe
the last name could have been Sexton, but that is not a positive,
where is a good place to start to look at some of the lists and try to
pinpoint who it could have been. I believe it would be between the
1600-1800's. I found the listing for Queen Victoria's ladies in
waiting, but can't seem to find a listing for any one else. At this
point its like looking for a needle in a haystack, but how interesting
would it be to be able to prove or disprove it either way.
The only information I have is the ancestors name who it would be
connected to, her name was Mary Anne Sexton, and she was said to have
been born in New Brunswick, Canada in the 1850's. By family stories,
they say her family was associated with the Sexton Can Company in
Wilmington, MA, but I've seen no proof to that as of yet. They were
said to have been fairly wealthy, however, nothing about her ancestry
has been passed down over the years, other than she had English
descent. She married John Knight Stinson in Jun 13,1864 in St.
John's, New Brunswick, Canada. The source for that is the St. John's
Courier, New Brunswick. "St. Andrews Standard issue of June 22, 1864
At St. John on the 13th instant(June 13, 1864) by the Rev. A.W.
Nicholson, Mr John K. Stinson of St. Andrews, to Miss Mary Ann Sexton
of that city. "
As of yet, I've been unable to find her in census records, but am
going to keep looking. Her children carried the names Isaac Crosby,
Mary Ethel, Ada Knight, and Arthur Abner Stinson.
Mary Anne married a 2nd time after 1899 to William S. Smith of Sussex,
King's County, New Brunswick, no children from this marriage.
I think, but have positive proof that if someone in her family had
been a lady-in-waiting it would have been possibly her mother or
grandmother.
Would love to be able to find out if the family legend is indeed true
or false, but definantly need a pointer or two on how to find
information on the topic. Any info would be lovely.
Thanks,
Kathy
Kathy
indeed any in existance. So "if" I can pinpoint the person, I have a
reference to look at.
t...@clearwire.net
No such list is going to exist. Basically, just about any non-working
class household in the country would have hired a lady (or ladies) in
waiting as soon as they could afford one (both for the sake of the
service being provided but also as a symbol of their status). There
easily would have been tens of thousands or more at any given time,
and there was no regulation, taxation, organization or other such
government role that would have resulted in their names being
compiled.
taf
D. Spencer Hines
"One of our ancestors was a lady in waiting to Queen X" is a standard
trope in Genealogy.
Then there is the Four Marys story...
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DSH
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Kathy
for a list, or trying to prove or disprove family lore. I had a
feeling that would be the case. Thank you Taf and DSH for
clarifying. I figured that would be the case, and it would be almost
like looking for a needle in a haystack. Couldn't hurt to ask.
Thanks again,
Kathy
D. Spencer Hines
Glad you did ask.
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DSH
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Renia
I have never heard of ladies-in-waiting in any context other than as
lady-in-waiting to a Queen or female member of the royal family. In that
context, ladies-in-waiting were always from the aristocracy, untitled or
otherwise.
Manaia Alofa
Yes, you have. It was fashionable to be called "ladies-in-waiting" as they are/were known in aristocratic circles. Yet in other fashions of life, i.e., prostitute, harlot, hooker, streetwalker, call girl, etc., any other name but the proper clientele known as "ladies-in-waiting".
--Manaia
Renia
Perhaps I have not travelled in the right circles but I've never heard a
hooker referred to as a lady-in-waiting. Aristocrats had "ladies maids",
not "ladies-in-waiting" because the aristocrats themselves were the
"ladies", some of whom "waited" upon The Queen.
D. Spencer Hines
And that's where the famous Four Marys come in.
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DSH
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Manaia Alofa
> >> I have never heard of ladies-in-waiting in any
> context
> >> other than as
> >> lady-in-waiting to a Queen or female member of the
> royal
> >> family. In that
> >> context, ladies-in-waiting were always from the
> >> aristocracy, untitled or
> >> otherwise.
> >
> > Yes, you have. It was fashionable to be called
> "ladies-in-waiting" as they are/were known in
> aristocratic circles. Yet in other fashions of life, i.e.,
> prostitute, harlot, hooker, streetwalker, call girl, etc.,
> any other name but the proper clientele known as
> "ladies-in-waiting".
>
> Perhaps I have not travelled in the right circles but
> I've never heard a
> hooker referred to as a lady-in-waiting. Aristocrats had
> "ladies maids",
> not "ladies-in-waiting" because the aristocrats
> themselves were the
> "ladies", some of whom "waited" upon
> The Queen.
I never said hookers and the like were referred to as "ladies-in-waiting".
And you don't have to travel in like "right circles" to know the Queen is no different than a Madame in a bordello.
GRIN
--Manaia
Renia
Where have you sprung from? You obviously have no interest or knowledge
of genealogy, medieval or otherwise.
Manaia Alofa
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