The Family of Hugh II Aske , lord of Aske ( ?1317- abt 1348)
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Hugh II , lord of Aske
and Marrick who held them in 1317 was most probably the father of the
Thomas Aske of Aske who followed him about 1348, a second son Conan Aske
(misidentified as the ancestor of Aske of Aughton) married Emma Boynton and
died before 1369 as did Thomas. Conan de Aske`s son Conan II de Aske, lord of
Aske succeeded to the manors before or in 1369 , he then being 21 years of
age according to the 4 January 1369 will of Richard de Aske, Seneschal of
Howdenshire. Conan II is called his cousin though apparently nephew was
intended and Richard`s executor was his brother John de Aske of Owsthorpe in
Howdenshire who succeeded him as Seneschal of Howdenshire and died in 1395.
John acquired Aughton after his daughter Alice de Aske married German Hay
of Aughton and both died without issue.
(Sources Victoria County History of Yorkshire North Riding Volume 1
(1914) by William Page) Parish of Easby, manor of Aske, Parish of Marrick, manor
of Marrick, Parish of Barneston , manor of Exilby, Parish of Kirkby
Ravensworth, manor of Dalton Travers ; Transactions of the East Riding
Antiquarian Society volume 6, pp 43-44 " Notes of some Ancient East Riding Familes
and their Arms III : Aske of Aughton by A. S. Ellis see also De
Controversia in Curia militari inter Ricardi Le Scrope et Robertum Grosvenor
(1385-1390) Volume II (1832) by N Harris Nicholas p 331.
Sincerely,
James W Cummings
Dixmont, Mainev USA
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John de Aske of Owsthorpe died 1395
- his son Richard Aske married Margaret Ughtred
---- his son John Aske of Aughton, co York; Knt married Elizabeth Bigod
----- his son Robert Aske of Aughton, co York will proved 16 Mar 1542
married Elizabeth Clifford
Is that it?
Will
John Watson
Hi James,
A few corrections and additions:
John de Aske of Ousthorpe, was the son of Richard de Aske, not his
brother, as alleged in most pedigrees of the family.
10 June 1362, Grant by Thomas, bishop of Durham, to Richard Dask and
John Dask his son of the office of bailiff errant of Howdenshire, for
the term of their lives, having power to appoint the three under
bailiffs; with the customary fees (&c), and a robe, specified, when
the bishop makes his general livery. By the hand of John de
Kyngeston', the bishop's chancellor. Date: Durham, 10 June, 35 Edward
III
Durham Cathedral Muniments, Priory Register II, f.172v
http://reed.dur.ac.uk/xtf/view?docId=ead/dcd/dcdregr2.xml;query=dask#1
Alice de Aske, daughter of John de Aske and Joan de Shelvestrode
married firstly, German Haye and secondly Thomas Myton. Her will dated
16 April 1440, at Aughton, was proved on 22 July 1440.
Surtees Society, Vol. 30, Testamenta Eboracensia Part III (Durham:
1855) p. 76
Exact;y how the manor of Aughton came to the Aske family is not clear,
but German Hay's relatives were not too happy about this:
"Roger Hay states that he was seised of the manors of Aughton and
Everthorpe in Yorkshire in his demesne as in fee, until Alice, widow
of Thomas Myton, disseised him through the maintenance of her brother,
John Ask. He asks the King to order Alice to come before him to be
examined on this, and that he might be restored to possession of his
manors."
Special Collections: Ancient Petitions, SC 8/191/9519
John de Aske, son of John de Aske and Joan de Shelvestrode married
firstly, a lady called Juliana:
At the inquisition post mortem of Margaret de Ogle, taken on 6
November 1391 at Durham. It was found that she had held the manor of
Herdwyk, for life through the grant of William de Murton, vicar of the
church of Hesilden, and of John Forster, chaplain. The reversion of
these lands the said William and John had granted to Richard de Ask,
John de Ask, and others. John de Ask the survivor subsequently granted
the said reversion to John de Ask junior and Juliana his wife and
their issue, with reversion thereof to himself and his heirs
45th Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records (London: 1885)
p. 246
He married secondly, about 1417, Elizabeth, daughter of William
Gascoigne of Gawthorpe:
In the 11th year of Thomas Langley, Bishop of Durham [1417] John de
Ask of Ergom, son and heir of John de Ask of Ouschip in the county of
York had licence to enfeoff John de Lyndeley and Thomas Thurkilby,
clerk of his manor of Harwyk, that they might re-grant the same to the
said John de Ask and Elizabeth daughter of William Gascoign, of
Goukthorp, his wife with remainder over,
45th Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, HMSO,
London, 1885 p. 155
Richard Aske, son of John Aske and Elizabeth Gascoigne was a minor at
the death of his father in 1431:
20 Octber 1431, all the lands late of John Ask esquire, who held of
the king in chief on the day of his death, which by the death of the
said John Ask, and by reason of the minority of Richard Ask his son
and heir, have come, or ought to have come, to the king's hands, and
are still in the king's hands, were committed to William de Grene,
esquire, John Smyth, clerk, John Etton, clerk, Robert de Wardrop and
Richard Anson, by mainprise of John Cerf of the county of York,
'gentilman', and Philip de Metham of the same county, 'gentilman', to
hold the same from the time of the death of the said John Ask until
the lawful age of the said heir, together with the marriage of the
said heir.
45th Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, HMSO,
London, 1885 p. 155
Regards,
John
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office as bailiff. If "son" isn't a mistake for "nephew" then it must be
that this John died young and before 1369.
Richard Aske then, must be a brother to Conan and Thomas, and not a son to
either. Then Conan II who was later lord of Aske has a brother John who is
the one who was of Owsthorpe and died in 1395.
So
Hugh Lord of Aske
1. Thomas of Aske 1348 d.s.p.m.
2. Conan + Emma Boynton
2.1 Conan II Lord of Aske
2.2 John Aske of Owsthorpe
3 Richard bailiff errant of Howdenshire 1362-, heir his "cousin" Conan
(recte kinsman i.e. nephew)
3.1 John bailiff (in remainder 1362) dead by 1369