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Sir Saier de Rochford and His Two Sons Named John
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John Watson
Jul 8, 2016, 7:29:50 AM7/8/16
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Dear all,
Recently I have been trying to improve my pedigree of the Rochford family of Boston, Lincolnshire. The published sources and pedigrees do not appear to match up with primary documents such as Patent Rolls, Close Rolls, etc. in many cases.
The starting point of my researches was to determine, who Saier de Rochford was? was he one man or two, as some sources suggest, who were his children and who were his heirs. I am certain that Saier had two sons named John, one by his first wife Elizabeth and one by his third wife Joan Hillary.
The results of my researches are summarized below:
Sir Saier de Rochford
Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn near Boston, Lincolnshire was the son and heir of Sir Ralph de Rochford, knight, by Agnes daughter of Sir Richard de Draycote (d. c. 1268) of Draycote, Staffordshire by his second unknown wife. He was born before 1295 as he was an adult in 1316. He had two brothers, John and Thomas who were alive in 1335. He married firstly, before November 1320, Elizabeth, heiress of the manor of Arley in Warwickshire. He married secondly about December 1336, Isabel, daughter of Sir High de Hastinges of Gressenhall, by his wife Margery Foliot. He married thirdly before May 1348, Joan, daughter of Sir Roger Hillary, knight, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. By his first wife Elizabeth, he had two sons; John and Ralph, and by his third wife he had another son John and a son Edmund who occurs in 1368. He died at a great age after August 1372.
Sir John Rochford, the elder
Sir John de Rochford, knight, of Lincolnshire, eldest son of Sir Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn near Boston, Lincolnshire by his first wife Elizabeth, was probably born about 1325. He was knighted before 1350. The name of his first wife is unknown. He married secondly after 1366, Beatrice, who was probably Beatrice de Hotham, daughter of Sir John de Hotham of Scorborough (d. c. 1370) and widow of Sir Robert Hansard (d. 1366). He died in 1392 or 1393. He was succeeded by his son Sir Ralph Rochford, knight, who died shortly before 19 May 1440..
Sir John de Rochford and his brother Sir Ralph were both knighted before 1350 when they were members of the guild of Corpus Christi in Boston. John was the eldest son, as he inherited his father’s property in Lincolnshire and his mother’s manor of Arley in Warwickshire.
Sir John Rochford, the younger
Sir John de Rochford, knight, of Boston, Lincolnshire, younger son of Sir Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn (or Rochford Tower in Boston), Lincolnshire by his third wife Joan, daughter of Roger Hillary, knight, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas was probably born about 1352. In 1375 or 1376 he married Alice. He was knighted in October or November 1399. He died on 13 December 1410, leaving three daughters as his co-heirs.
Further details and all the references used as sources can be found here:
http://johnmwatson.blogspot.com/2016/07/sir-saier-de-rochford-and-his-two-sons.html
Regards,
John
Recently I have been trying to improve my pedigree of the Rochford family of Boston, Lincolnshire. The published sources and pedigrees do not appear to match up with primary documents such as Patent Rolls, Close Rolls, etc. in many cases.
The starting point of my researches was to determine, who Saier de Rochford was? was he one man or two, as some sources suggest, who were his children and who were his heirs. I am certain that Saier had two sons named John, one by his first wife Elizabeth and one by his third wife Joan Hillary.
The results of my researches are summarized below:
Sir Saier de Rochford
Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn near Boston, Lincolnshire was the son and heir of Sir Ralph de Rochford, knight, by Agnes daughter of Sir Richard de Draycote (d. c. 1268) of Draycote, Staffordshire by his second unknown wife. He was born before 1295 as he was an adult in 1316. He had two brothers, John and Thomas who were alive in 1335. He married firstly, before November 1320, Elizabeth, heiress of the manor of Arley in Warwickshire. He married secondly about December 1336, Isabel, daughter of Sir High de Hastinges of Gressenhall, by his wife Margery Foliot. He married thirdly before May 1348, Joan, daughter of Sir Roger Hillary, knight, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. By his first wife Elizabeth, he had two sons; John and Ralph, and by his third wife he had another son John and a son Edmund who occurs in 1368. He died at a great age after August 1372.
Sir John Rochford, the elder
Sir John de Rochford, knight, of Lincolnshire, eldest son of Sir Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn near Boston, Lincolnshire by his first wife Elizabeth, was probably born about 1325. He was knighted before 1350. The name of his first wife is unknown. He married secondly after 1366, Beatrice, who was probably Beatrice de Hotham, daughter of Sir John de Hotham of Scorborough (d. c. 1370) and widow of Sir Robert Hansard (d. 1366). He died in 1392 or 1393. He was succeeded by his son Sir Ralph Rochford, knight, who died shortly before 19 May 1440..
Sir John de Rochford and his brother Sir Ralph were both knighted before 1350 when they were members of the guild of Corpus Christi in Boston. John was the eldest son, as he inherited his father’s property in Lincolnshire and his mother’s manor of Arley in Warwickshire.
Sir John Rochford, the younger
Sir John de Rochford, knight, of Boston, Lincolnshire, younger son of Sir Saier de Rochford, knight, of Fenn (or Rochford Tower in Boston), Lincolnshire by his third wife Joan, daughter of Roger Hillary, knight, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas was probably born about 1352. In 1375 or 1376 he married Alice. He was knighted in October or November 1399. He died on 13 December 1410, leaving three daughters as his co-heirs.
Further details and all the references used as sources can be found here:
http://johnmwatson.blogspot.com/2016/07/sir-saier-de-rochford-and-his-two-sons.html
Regards,
John
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