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Aug 29, 2014, 10:14:08 PM8/29/14
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Another Gateway Ancestor ---In 2006 I wrote gen-medieval #1140460419 on
Aston-Kinnersley-Bradshaw-Fowke

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_http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2006-02/1140460419_

in support of Margaret Aston being the sister of John Aston, not his
daughter. Since then, Roberts and van de Pas listed Margaret as the
daughter of John Aston. Richardson cannot decide (MCA2011, V. I, pp.
57-8), so he said the daughter of John was either “wife of W. St. Andrew
Esq or wife of Thomas Kynnersley...”.

However, Richardson presents some interesting dates for the
Astons.Robert Aston is cited as 4 years old in 1418, and 6 in 1420. So
he must have married in 1434 or later. He died in 1464-65.

John Aston, his son, must have been born no sooner than about 1434, and
married no sooner than about 1454. He died in 1483 with three sons and
nine daughters.

I was able to get the complete “A History of the Family of Kynnersley by
T. F. Kinnersley, 1897” and its pedigree, which the author says was
“copied from one preserved at the College of Arms.” A written version of
the pedigree is found in Landed Gentry 1894, p. 1132-4:

http://books.google.com/books?id=93M-AQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

The pedigree said of Margeret, “dau. to Robert Aston de Tixhail”.She
then married “Ralphe Wolseley de Wolseley, 2^nd husband, 10 E. 4.”The
date is the same as the death of John Kynnersley, so it might be
incorrect. There is also Landed Gentry Burke 1897 which has a shortened
version.

There is also the “Visitation of the County of Warwick in the Year 1619
taken by William Camden. Harl. MSS. 1197.”There are pedigrees on pages
102-3 and 396-8:

_http://books.google.com/books?id=pTMEAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false___

The first pedigree said “Da. of Sr Rob. Aston of Tixhall Kt.” while the
other said “filia Rob’ti Aston de Tixsall renupia Rad’o Wolesley.” There
is also a short pedigree in Harl. MSS. 1052, 92 which says “Da. Of Sr.
Robert Aston.”All these early pedigrees say she is the daughter of
Robert Aston.Are there any others?

In the College of Arms pedigree, Margaret Aston had 13 children with
John Kynnardsley. Pedigree says that John died in 1470-71.Margaret’s
children were 7 unnamed sons (deceased?); Margaret, wife to John
Fitzherbert of Somerset; Robert, heir ob.s.p.; Joane, wife to Thomas
Langham; Thomas, who was the heir, had three wives and is said to have
had 30 children; Elizabeth, wife to Thomas Dethick de Newhall; and
Isabel, wife to John Bradshaw in Com. Derby. Margaret must have been
married about 15 or more years before 1470-71, say about 1455 or before,
in order to have 13 children

It turns out that there areSneyd-Kynnersley papers relating to the
estates of the Kynnersley (from 1815 Sneyd-Kynnersley) and Clake
(principally of Chilcote)families consists of more than 100 original
documents in Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent Archive Service,
Staffordshire Record Office
<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=169>D(W)1733/A.

_http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=169-dw1733&cid=-1#-1_

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Several apply to Margaret Aston.

There is D(W)1733/D/38/[late 15th cent] ’/Copy of "an old discharge for
distresses taken forth of Loxley": from the Duke of Clarence to the
Feodary of his honour of Tutbury re the goods of Margaret Kynnersley,
late wife of John Kynnersley’. George Plantagent, the Duke of Clarence,
died in 1478, supposed drowned in a butt of walmsey by his brother, the
king. But he lost the Honour of Tutbury in an act in 1473. It means the
date of John Kinnersley’s death was in 1470-71 as stated in the pedigree.

There are also a grant D(W)1733/A/1/1 and a demise D(W)1733/A/1/2 to
Margaret, late wife of John Kinnersley from John Gresley, kt. and others
to quite a few lands including the “manor of Lea.” The date is 4 June 14
Ed IV (1474). Gresley was working for the Honor of Tutbury at that time,
Lord Hastings.

In addition,

_http://www.bramshallandloxleysociety.org.uk/index.php/historical-events/86-a-few-steps-through-the-ancient-history-of-bramshall-part-1_

15 Ed IV 1475 lists charges from Margaret and her second husband, Ralph
Wolseley, against yeoman who “insulting, beating, and wounded her.”The
criminals were never bought to trial, but it is the first notice of her
second marriage.

The most important, however, isD(W)1733/D/2 [/1481], a q/uitclaim by
Joane Kinnersley for her mother, Margaret, late wife and executor of
John Kinnersley, Joane’s father, and Margaret’s present husband, Ralph
Wolseley.In it, Joane says she is a single woman of 22 years, and it is
dated 11 July Ed IV 21, 1481. There are errors in the English translated
title of the Sneyd-Kinnersley papers, and others in the College of Arms
pedigree, but I translated the original Latin above.

So Joane was born in 1459.She was 12 when John died, and the pedigree
says she was the third child listed.So there is a lot of original
written documentation that Margaret married 1455 or sooner.Since John
Aston married about 1454, it is clear he had to be her brother, and the
literature saying she is the daughter of John should be changed. The
daughter of John Aston must be Margaret, the wife of W. St. Andrew Esq.

There were three children born to Margaret in the period from 1460 to
1470: Thomas, Elizabeth, and Isabel.Isabel must have been a small child
at John Kynnersley’s death.According to the College of Arms pedigree,
she married “John Bradshaw, in Com. Derby.”

Roberts has asked for a monograph on the Bradshaws, and Richard Lee
Bradshaw began one in 2010 with “God’s Battleaxe.”More recently, Neil
Ayres has carried on and a monograph based mostly on original documents
is close to completion.What follows is from the section on the Bradshaws
of Windley with his kind permission but without his many sources.

Isabel Kinnersley married John Bradshaw of Windley (ca. 1450-1521). The
Windleys are a branch of the Bradshaws of Chapel en le Frith which began
with Thomas (after 1315-after 1353), father to John (ca. 1345-after
1395). John was Chief Forester of Duffield Frith and later Chief
Forester, Postern Park.

His sons were Henry ((ca. 1370-after 1431) and John.They married the
sisters Isabell and Joan Foucher (Fulcher), the granddaughters of Robert
Foucher of Osmaton by Derby. Much of the holdings of the Fouchers then
went to Henry. His son was Robert Sr. ((ca. 1395-ca. 1460); and his son
was Robert Jr. (ca. 1430-ca.1502).

Robert Jr.’s son John and Isabell had sons John, Robert, Nicholas, and
Thomas, and daughters Elizabeth, Anna, and Dorothy.He was Keeper of
Postern Park in 1510, and his will shows quite a bit of land.His son,
John, died in 1523, and is often mistakenly given as the husband of
Isabell.Isabell had a window in the Muggington Church in honor of her
deceased husband and sons – it showed Bradshaw impaling Fulcher,
displaying Kinnersley.

The daughter Anna Bradshaw married John Fowke, the children were Roger,
Francis, William, Cassandra, Joan and Elizabeth in the list from 1532-3.

The son Robert Bradshaw (of Worksoppe) was Clerk of the Kitchen to
Francis Talbot, 5^th Earl of Shrewsbury.In his will from 1553, he leaves
bequests by name to Cassandra, Joyce, and Francis Fowke.Francis received
some clothing, including a gown “furred with barke of lyzards.”Joyce was
apparently born after the 1532-3 listing.There are many published items
about the remaining descent to Gerard Fowke, the Gateway Ancestor, such
as Richardson’s Royal Ancestry.

I would welcome any comments on this study; I think it shows that
Margaret is the daughter of Robert Aston..

Charlie McNett



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