Magnus of Denmark, King of Livonia
Leo van de Pas
The Kings of Denmark are in ES volume II.
This is were most of my information came from.
The discrepancy in dates is probably caused
by those infuriating different calendars.
I am glad you like the Princess Michael of Kent
pages, the URL has been shortened
http://worldroots.com/kent.htm also
something of interest has been added,
a newspaper article about the Nazi involvement
of the father of Princess Michael of Kent,
you may like to have a look at that.
The next site by Brigitte Gastel Lloyd and myself is close to finishing and
we have already started
on the third one---
I am glad you brought up those discrepancies.
That is one way of correcting them. I wish
Schwennicke had an e-mail address where we
could send corrections or additions. At one
stage I was making notes of the ones I found,
but I have given up.
What I am pleased and impressed with is the
new Burke's Peerage, 1999. The print is
definetely an improvement! Also, there is
an e-mail recorded and I have used it as
after a quick glance I spotted something
that could/should be improved. Well, very
quickly I received a response from Switzerland
and, yes, they are grateful for additions
and corrections. It seems they want to sell
first this editions (for that price I am not
surprised) and they are considering later
editions. It seems Burke's is rescued and
in a better fashion than the 'Almanach de Gotha'.
As you have gathered, I have bought the new
Burke's Peerage and, so far, I have only
praise for it. I intend to look at some
families in greater detail, which is the only
way to try to assess the information.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
At 03:09 AM 7/3/99 +0400, you wrote:
>In response on recent demand for non-British and non-French material :-)
>
>12 April 1573 in Novgorod Prince Magnus of Denmark, second son of
>King Christian III, married russian princess Maria Vladimirovna,
>first cousin once removed of Ivan the Terrible. AFAIK, this is the
>only marriage between Russian and Western European royalty in post-
>Tatars period but before reforms of Peter I.
>
>I am interested in genealogical information about this couple and
>their children. I found the following information on Leo's Michael
>of Kent site (http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/kent/kent.htm)
>(BTW, thanks to Leo for his wonderful work)
>
>> 3 Magnus
>> King of Livland 1570-1577, Duke von Holstein
>> Born 14 August 1540
>> Died 28 March 1583
>> Married 12 April 1573
>> Maria of Russia, daughter of Wladimir of Russia, Prince of
>> Staritza and Eudoxia Odojewska
>> Born 1560
>> Died 13 June 1597
>> Children, Generation IV-14
>[snip]
>> IV-14 (III-4-3)
>> 1 Marie von Holstein
>> Born July 1580
>> Died 1597
>>
>> 2 Eudoxia von Holstein
>> Born January 1581
>> Died 1588
>
>However, there are several problems here.
>
>1. According to russian sources, Maria Vladimirovna was still alive
>long after 1597. S.M.Soloviov in his multi-volume "History of Russia"
>briefly mentioned that Maria lived in Trinity-St.Sergius monastery
>during its siege by Lisovski and Sapieha in 1609. Later, in 1611, she
>was in the Virgins monastery in Moscow when it was stormed by cossacks.
>I saw her death date as 1614, but the source isn't very reliable.
>
>2. Several years after death of Magnus, Maria returned to Russia with
>her daughter Eudokia, who, however, soon died. But I never saw any
>mention of another daughter in russian sources. In 1585 an english
>diplomate Jerom Horsey met with Maria in Riga and persuaded her to return
>to Russia. He describes this meeting in his memoires. According to him,
>Maria was accompanied with *one* little daughter. So, anybody knows if
>another daughter really existed, and if yes, any biographical deatails
>about her?
>
>3. Finally, about Magnus himself. Leo shows him as b.14.08.1540 and
>d.28.03.1583. I have dates for him (from Soviet Historical encyclopaedia)
>as b.26.08.1540 and d.18.03.1583. Can somebody check these dates, please.
>Is Danish royal family covered by ES?
>
>Andrew S. Kalinkin
>Moscow, Russia
>
>