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Leo van de Pas via
Aug 15, 2014, 7:58:24 PM8/15/14
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William Ball 1615-1680, (son of Dr.Richard Ball son of Lawrence Ball) and his wife Hannah Atherold 1615-1695 (Genealogics has eight ancestors for her)
I found only one interesting descendant
George Washington, 1st President
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
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I found only one interesting descendant
George Washington, 1st President
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
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Craig Kilby via
Aug 15, 2014, 8:18:28 PM8/15/14
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Leo,
I am a volunteer at the Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library in Lancaster, Virginia. I am also an Independent researcher and genealogist. I am afraid you have something mixed up here.
1. William Ball was the immigrant to Virginia from England. His first record in Virginia is in 1653. Nobody knows who his parents were and I think you would be hard pressed to prove he was the son of Dr. Richard Ball, son of Lawrence Ball. On the other hand, if you do have any evidence for this, it would be very exciting news to the genealogical community at large, and especially to his descendants.
2. William Ball's wife was indeed probably Hannah Atherall/ Atherold, but there is no evidence for her parentage, much less eight ancestors for her. We only know her name from the Joseph Ball Letter book, in which her grandson Joseph Ball (then living in London) is writing to his nephew Joseph Chinn (and his Virginia agent) to prove this to his satisfaction for he remembered seeing it in his grandfather's "little book." The question was never resolved. (Her SUPPOSED Atherold ancestry was first thrown out there as mere guessing by Rev. Horace Hayden in 1880. That has since become "fact" but further investigation shows that this is just not plausible.)
The topic of William Ball's ancestry (or our lack of knowledge about it) and that of Hannah Atherall, is very well covered by David J. French of Barkham, England on his web site
maryballwashington.com
3. It is in deed true that George Washington was a great-grandson of William Ball and Hannah Atherall (?), but he himself knew nothing about his Ball family roots.
I saw another thread about the will of Hannah Ball (wife of William-1) in connection with the discussion on Edward Dale and Diana Skipwith, using her will as an example of (just what I do not recall). Portions of her will were overturned in court later. This had to do with her bequeathing a slave to her daughter Hannah (Ball) Fox. That is probably another thread though.
Regards,
Craig Kilby
Lancaster, VirginiaVirginia
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I am a volunteer at the Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library in Lancaster, Virginia. I am also an Independent researcher and genealogist. I am afraid you have something mixed up here.
1. William Ball was the immigrant to Virginia from England. His first record in Virginia is in 1653. Nobody knows who his parents were and I think you would be hard pressed to prove he was the son of Dr. Richard Ball, son of Lawrence Ball. On the other hand, if you do have any evidence for this, it would be very exciting news to the genealogical community at large, and especially to his descendants.
2. William Ball's wife was indeed probably Hannah Atherall/ Atherold, but there is no evidence for her parentage, much less eight ancestors for her. We only know her name from the Joseph Ball Letter book, in which her grandson Joseph Ball (then living in London) is writing to his nephew Joseph Chinn (and his Virginia agent) to prove this to his satisfaction for he remembered seeing it in his grandfather's "little book." The question was never resolved. (Her SUPPOSED Atherold ancestry was first thrown out there as mere guessing by Rev. Horace Hayden in 1880. That has since become "fact" but further investigation shows that this is just not plausible.)
The topic of William Ball's ancestry (or our lack of knowledge about it) and that of Hannah Atherall, is very well covered by David J. French of Barkham, England on his web site
maryballwashington.com
3. It is in deed true that George Washington was a great-grandson of William Ball and Hannah Atherall (?), but he himself knew nothing about his Ball family roots.
I saw another thread about the will of Hannah Ball (wife of William-1) in connection with the discussion on Edward Dale and Diana Skipwith, using her will as an example of (just what I do not recall). Portions of her will were overturned in court later. This had to do with her bequeathing a slave to her daughter Hannah (Ball) Fox. That is probably another thread though.
Regards,
Craig Kilby
Lancaster, VirginiaVirginia
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Leo van de Pas via
Aug 15, 2014, 8:33:06 PM8/15/14
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Dear Craig,
Many thanks for your message. You are right I made a mistake. I forgot to
enter for both William Ball and his wife that their parents are "possible",
not certain, as Gary Boyd Roberts has in his work on the ancestors of USA
Presidents. I have added this into my system and this should become visible
on genealogics after the next update.
I think it is helpful when people expose information as then it is possible
for others to make corrections or additions. I certainly very much
appreciate them.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
Many thanks for your message. You are right I made a mistake. I forgot to
enter for both William Ball and his wife that their parents are "possible",
not certain, as Gary Boyd Roberts has in his work on the ancestors of USA
Presidents. I have added this into my system and this should become visible
on genealogics after the next update.
I think it is helpful when people expose information as then it is possible
for others to make corrections or additions. I certainly very much
appreciate them.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
Craig Kilby via
Aug 15, 2014, 8:41:20 PM8/15/14
to Leo van de Pas, Gen-Med
Hello Leo,
Personally, I would not enter any parents for them at all. Their lineage is indeed "uncertain" but the suggested lineage is really not even close to "possible." Again, I refer you to David French's report on his study of this matter.
maryballwashington.com
Craig
Personally, I would not enter any parents for them at all. Their lineage is indeed "uncertain" but the suggested lineage is really not even close to "possible." Again, I refer you to David French's report on his study of this matter.
maryballwashington.com
Craig
Lucas Henderson
Aug 26, 2014, 7:22:43 AM8/26/14
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Are these any relation to the ball family of suffolk? As in dudley ball etc??
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