Re: Spanish Muslim ancestors?
TARA...@aol.com
Regarding Fruela II de Leon, is his wife known? I have seen a few on-line
genealogies that show one wife as Nunilo Jimena Sanchez de Pamplona, daughter
of Sancho I Garces de Navarra and Toda Aznazrez de Larron; and another wife
as Urraca Banu-Qasi, daughter of Abdallah
ibn Muhammed Wali. Are either of them accurate? The date estimate on Fr
uela II was born c. 875 in Asturias, Spain and died c Jul 925 also in Asturias.
No children were listed for Fruela and Urraca, but there were some for
Fruela and Nunilo Jimena: Ordono, Alfosno, and Ramiro. None were listed with
descendants, only Ramiro listed with a wife named Urraca.
I'm sorry, but I can't seem to find the link offhand and I know how most of
the genealogies on the inter-net are junk. Does this seem correct?
Denise D'Antona
In a message dated 3/26/2005 1:15:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
farm...@interfold.com writes:
I can think of just one christian male who can be documented as
having married a muslim female and had children who remained in a
christian context during this period - Fruela II of Leon, and
following his death and that of his son King Alfonso Fruelaz,
they were deprived of all standing (and in some cases of all
seeing) and disappear from history without known descendants
(claimed descents are all erroneous, as is the published descent
from his brother Ramiro by Urraca, apparently his widow).
taf
Francisco Antonio Doria
As far as I can tell Fruela's descent vanished un a
couple of generations.
fa
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Todd A. Farmerie
> Regarding Fruela II de Leon, is his wife known? I have seen a few on-line
> genealogies that show one wife as Nunilo Jimena Sanchez de Pamplona, daughter
> of Sancho I Garces de Navarra and Toda Aznazrez de Larron; and another wife
> as Urraca Banu-Qasi, daughter of Abdallah
> ibn Muhammed Wali. Are either of them accurate?
There is a funeral marker for Nunilo, wife of Fruela. However, the
ancestry given here (the traditional ancestry given the woman) is almost
certainly erroneous. The _Codice de Roda_, an anonymous genealogy
apparently written in celebration of the marriage of Count Garcia
Fernandez of Castile, grandson of Sancho Garces and Toda, gives a
detailed listing of the children of Sancho and Toda, their marriages,
and children, (even one illegitimate daughter is so detailed) but fails
to mention such a daughter married to Fruela. (Chronologically, it is
also a hard sell, for while one of Sancha and Toda's daughters married
Fruela's brother Ordono, it was late in his life as a third wife, while
two sisters married Ordono's two younger sons. It is quite unlikely,
chronologically, that Fruela's first wife would have been a sibling of
these.)
As to Urraca, _Yamharat al-Ansab_, a genealogical collection by ibn Hazm
thought to be largely based on authentic Iberian-Arab historical
knowledge, gives the marriage of Urraca daughter of Abd'Allah ibn
Muhammad to Fruela ibn Alfonso. King Fruela appears in a donation
document of his brother Ordono, along with wife Urraca, so this is
absolutely solid.
> The date estimate on Fr
> uela II was born c. 875 in Asturias, Spain and died c Jul 925 also in Asturias.
> No children were listed for Fruela and Urraca, but there were some for
> Fruela and Nunilo Jimena: Ordono, Alfosno, and Ramiro.
_Yamharat al-Ansab_ indicates that Ordono and Ramiro were children of
Urraca. By implication, then, Alfonso, known to have been the eldest of
the three, was son of the first wife, Nunilo.
> None were listed with
> descendants, only Ramiro listed with a wife named Urraca.
This confuses uncle and nephew. It was the rebel anti-King Ramiro,
brother of Ordono II and Fruela II who appears with wife Urraca. This
occurs only after the death of Fruela, and it has been reasonably
speculated that he married his brother's widow. Fruela's son Ramiro
disappears after his brother Alfonso Fruelaz was deposed, with hints in
some sources that he was blinded, and nothing further is known of
Fruela's sons. This does not mean that they had none - just that they
disappear into obscurity. Later pedigrees trace the Infante Ordono
Ramirez, son-in-law of Vermudo II, from this Ramiro, but it is
chronologically impossible, and he was instead probably son of King
Ramiro III.
This was a fractious time in the history of Leon, with six kings in just
about as many years. Following the death of Ordono II in 924, his
younger brother Fruela succeeded, but died himself in 925. His son
Alfonso Fruelaz followed, but was deposed shortly thereafter by Sancho
Ordonez, in turn deposed by his brother Alfonso IV, himself then deposed
by brother Ramiro II, all by 932. Likewise, during this time Ramiro,
brother of Fruela was fighting unsuccessfully for his right to rule as
senior agnatic member of the family (as had Fruela) over the claims of
his nephews (the latter two of which were helped in their efforts to
suppress him by their father-in-law Sancho Garces). Early historians
missed the complexity of this, thinking that Fruela's successor (named
simply King Alfonso in all but one source) was the same man as Alfonso
IV Ordonez, that he ruled continually from that time and thus Sancho
only ruled in Galicia., the result being that both Kings, Alfonso
Fruelaz and Sancho Ordonez, were left out of the standardized numbering
of kings.
taf