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Complete Peerage Addition: Death date of Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Oxford

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Douglas Richardson

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Oct 5, 2015, 1:56:04 PM10/5/15
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 213-216 (sub Oxford) has a good account of the life of Sir Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford, hereditary Master Chamberlain of England, who died in 1263. Regarding his marriage, the following information is given:

"He married, after 11 Feb. 1222/3, Hawise, daughter of Saher (de Quincy), 1st Earl of Winchester, by Margaret, younger sister and coh. of Robert (FitzPernel), 4th Earl of Leicester. He died before 23 Dec. 1263, and was buried at Earls Colne. His wife survived him, d. 3 Feb. (year unknown), and was buried at Earls Colne." END OF QUOTE

Footnote a on page 216 further reveals that Hawise de Quincy "was living in 1273 (Essex Feet of Fines, vol. ii, p. 2)."

From these details, we learn that Hawise de Quincy, widow of Sir Hugh de Vere, was living in 1273, and died 3 February, year unknown.

Recently I located a Common Pleas lawsuit which pinpoints the year of Hawise de Quincy's death date a bit better. Here is a brief abstract of the lawsuit:

In Easter term 1279 John de Lovetot and William de Caneles, parson of the church of Lavenham, as executors of Hawise de Veer, Countess of Oxford, sued Philip de Saint Osith in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £200.

The actual lawsuit may be viewed at the following weblink:

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no29/aCP40no29fronts/IMG_0463.htm

Thus, it would appear that Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Oxford, died testate before Easter term 1279.

As an aside, I might add that John de Lovetot, one of her executors, was Sir John de Lovetot, a justice of the Common Pleas. In the early 1270s he was steward of Norwich Cathedral Priory and in service to Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford, possibly as his steward.

For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Sir Hugh de Vere, Earl of Oxford, and his wife, Hawise de Quincy:

Robert Abell, William Asfordby, John Barclay, Christopher Batt, Anne Baynton, Marmaduke Beckwith, Dorothy Beresford, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Thomas Booth, Elizabeth Bosvile, Mary Bourchier, Edward Bromfield, Edward, John & Thomas Bulkeley, Nathaniel Burrough, Elizabeth, John, and Thomas Butler, Charles Calvert, Edward Carleton, Kenelm Cheseldine, Grace Chetwode, Jeremy Clarke, William Clopton, Anne Cordray, William Crymes, Francis Dade, Humphrey Davie, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, Thomas Dudley, William Farrer, Thomas Gerard, William Goddard, Muriel Gurdon, Patrick Houston, Edward Howell, Anne Humphrey, Corderoy, Francis, Martha, & William Iremonger, Henry Isham, Edmund Jennings, Edmund, Edward, Matthew & Richard Kempe, Mary Launce, Anne Lovelace, Percival Lowell, Gabriel, Roger & Sarah Ludlow, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Anne & Katherine Marbury, Elizabeth Marshall, John and Margaret Nelson, Ellen Newton, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Richard Parker, Herbert Pelham, William & Elizabeth Pole, Henry & William Randolph, Edward Raynsford, George Reade, William Rodney, William Skepper, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, Samuel & William Torrey, Margaret Touteville, Margaret Tyndall, Jemima Waldegrave, John West, Hawte Wyatt, George Yate.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Peter Stewart via

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On 6/10/2015 4:56 AM, Douglas Richardson via wrote:
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> In Easter term 1279 John de Lovetot and William de Caneles, parson of the church of Lavenham, as executors of Hawise de Veer, Countess of Oxford, sued Philip de Saint Osith in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £200.
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> The actual lawsuit may be viewed at the following weblink:
>
> http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no29/aCP40no29fronts/IMG_0463.htm
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> Thus, it would appear that Hawise de Quincy, Countess of Oxford, died testate before Easter term 1279.

Hawise may have died by 1277 - in that year a fee in Leyton,
Leicestershire, that she had held in November 1270 (Calendar of
Inquisitions post mortem, vol 1 no. 776, p. 257) was held by her son
Robert de Vere, earl of Oxford (Report on the Manuscripts of the late
Reginald Rawdon Hastings, Historical Manuscripts Commission (1928-1947)
vol. 1, p. 330).

Peter Stewart



D. Spencer Hines

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Oct 6, 2015, 1:56:50 PM10/6/15
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Are not Hugh de Vere 4th Earl of Oxford and his wife Hawise de Quincy
Countess of Oxford also ancestors of Colonel John Wesley Washington of
Westmoreland (ca. 1633-1677), Great-Grandfather of General and President
George?...

Namely 12th Great-Grandparents?

DSH

"Genealogy is an infinite binary series -- both progressively and
regressively -- propagated by means of a terminal, sexually transmitted
disease, producing a 100% death rate -- which we call Life." -- D. Spencer
Hines - 4 June 1997

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