Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Clarice Orsini

27 views
Skip to first unread message

Stefan Höllriegl

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
looking for the parents of Clarice Orsino (d.1488) wife of Lorenzo I di
Medici, is it either a daughter of Giacomo Orsini (son of Orso Orsini,
Sn di Monterotondo) or of Virginio Orsini(+1497) Cte di Tagliacozzo ???

thanks in advance
Stefan


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Leo van de Pas

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
I think William Addams Reitwiesner must be on holidays as this is his
territory. In any case he provided me with one important link to be able to
show this very poor ancestor list. Anyway, I hope it helps.

1.Clarice Orsini
born 1453, died August 1488

2.Giacomo Orsini di Monterotondo
3.Maddalena Orsini

4.Orso Orsini di Monterotondo
died 1424
5.Lucrezia Conti

6.Carlo Orsini, Lord of Bracciano
7.Hieronima Paula Orsini

8.Francesco Orsini di Monterotondo
9.Costanza Annibaldeschi

16.Giordano Orsini di Monterotondo
17.Anastasia Orsini

34.Roberto Orsini, Conte di Nola
died 1350
married 1330
35.Sveva de Baux

68.Romano Orsini, Senator of Rome
died 1326
married 8 June 1293
69.Anastasia de Montfort
Contessa di Nola

70.Hugues de Baux
Conte di Soleto
died in battle 1315 Tanaro
married before 11 December 1310
71.Jacopa della Marra
died after 1312

136.Gentile II Orsini, Senator of Rome
died 1314
137.Claricia di Ruffo

138.Guy de Montfort
Conte di Nola
died in prison 1291 in Sicily
139.Margherita Aldobrancerschi
Seignora di Grossetto

140.Bertrand III de Baux
co-Prince d'Orange
died 1305 in Palestine
married 13 June 1281
141.Stephanette de Baux d'Orange

142.Risone I della Marra
143.NN di Serino

Sources
Isenburg

ES

Burke's Extince Peerage

Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fuertsliche Haeuser

Plantagenet Ancestry, by Turton

Les Ancestres de Louis XIV
by Christian Carretier

Papal Genealogy, The Families and Descendants of the Popes
1998, Jefferson, North Carloina
by George L Williams

Hope this helps
Leo van de Pas

U...@aol.com

unread,
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
to
Just added a few notes:

In a message dated 12/15/99 4:42:16 AM Central Standard Time,
leov...@iinet.net.au writes:

<< I think William Addams Reitwiesner must be on holidays as this is his
territory. In any case he provided me with one important link to be able to
show this very poor ancestor list. Anyway, I hope it helps.

1.Clarice Orsini
born 1453, died August 1488

Jacob Wilhelm Imhoff, *Genealogiae viginti illustrium in Italia familiarum
...* (Amsterdam, 1710), pp. 314-15, may have originated the false notion that
Clarice Orsini, wife of Lorenzo de' Medici, was the bastard daughter of
Cardinal Latino Orsini, who was in fact her mother's brother. The
correspondence cited by Ross leaves no doubt of the actual parentage of
Clarice Orsini. Imhoff's error continues to be perpetuated even today; see,
for example, Christian Carretier, *Les 512 Quartiers de Louis XIV (Angers,
Paris, 1980), p. 42, nos. 334-35.

2.Giacomo Orsini di Monterotondo
Signor of Monterotondo, condottiere in the service of Venice in 1482,
commisario of the Church in 1431; gave Monterotondo to his brother
Lorenzo.Flourished 1425-82

3.Maddalena Orsini
Sister of Cardinal Latino Orsini of the house of Bracciano.

By the way, Clarice's mother, Maddalena Orsini, was also a descendant of Guy
de Montfort and thus of King John of England. Details are left as an
exercise for the interested reader :)



4.Orso Orsini di Monterotondo
died 1424

Signor of Monterotondo, condottiere with Sforza and others; died fighting the
Florentines.


5.Lucrezia Conti

6.Carlo Orsini, Lord of Bracciano
7.Hieronima Paula Orsini

8.Francesco Orsini di Monterotondo

Flourished 1355-1444


9.Costanza Annibaldeschi

16.Giordano Orsini di Monterotondo

Lord of Monterotondo; flourished 1339-67.


Always optimistic--Dave


0 new messages