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Children of James Stanley, Bishop of Ely

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DKJ200

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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What do the standard sources say about the (illegitimate) children of
James Stanley, Bishop of Ely, a son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of
Derby? Do they agree that he had any, on their names, and on their
spouses?

David Jamieson


Lloyd555

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Feb 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/5/99
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Dictionary of National Biography says:

"By a lady who shared his episcopal residence at Somersham he had
at least two sons, John and Thomas, and a daughter, Margaret, who
married Sir Henry Halsall of Halsall. The elder son, John, fought at
Flodden Field on 9 Sept. 1513, was knighted, and founded the family
of Stanleys of Hanford, Cheshire"

Flower's Visitation of Lancashire (1567) says under Halsall that Sir
Henry married Margaret base daughter of James Stanley, but the
same Visitation under Ireland says that Sir John Ireland married that
same daughter.

Victoria County History of Lancashire under Blackburn:

Henry de Halsall (knighted 1497) married Margaret Stanley daughter
of James Stanley, clerk. Sir Henry died June 1522. James Stanley is
usually identified with James Stanley, afterwards Bishop of Ely. Sir
Henry de Halsall's will dated 1518 provided for his younger sons -
mentioned his deceased wife Margaret.

and under Ireland of Hutt:

Sir John de Ireland (knighted 1497) died 29 July 1525, married an
illegitimate daughter of James Stanley, Bishop of Ely.

A new book called "the House of Stanley" by Peter Edmund Stanley
(1998, Pentland Press, Durham, UK ISBN 1-85821-578-1) states that
the Bishop had a natural son Sir John Stanley (1495-1530) who
married Margaret daughter and sole heiress of Sir William Honford
of Handforth Hall, Cheadle, Cheshire. Also a daughter Margaret who
married firstly Sir John Ireland of Hutt and secondly Sir Henry
Halsall who died 1522.

I'm not sure how consistent all these statements are! I'd be interested
in knowing if other sources give details of the Bishop's children.

By the way did the Bishop die in 1515 (DNB) or 1525 (new Stanley book)?


Reedpcgen

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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>By the way did the Bishop die in 1515 (DNB) or 1525 (new Stanley book)?
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James Stanley, "bysshop of Ely" left a will proved in the PCC in 1515 (7
Holder), with lands in Manchester, Lancashire, and Cheshire. I have not
ckecked this will for some years and cannot now remember the details, but it is
available through the FHL on microfilm.

pcr

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