ISABEL d'AUBIGNY AND ROBERT DE ROS
Allen John Mallory
Helmsley (1223-1285) had several children.
If one of those children was Robert, I would appreciate learning who he may
have married, and the names of any children (including birth and death
dates, with any other helpful identifying information, etc.).
The Isabel referred to above was the daughter of William d'Aubigny (c.
1185-1242), Lord of Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire.
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Hello Allen,
Sorry, no Robert in the immediate family you're looking
for. However, as there are many Roberts in the de Ros
family, I am including below 5 generations from Sir Robert
de Ros and Isabel (natural daughter of William the Lion,
king of Scots) which covers Sir Robert de Ros and his wife
Isabel D'Aubigny, his children, siblings and near cousins.
Hopefully, you'll find de Ros you're looking for....
Good luck, and good hunting.
John *
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1 Sir Robert de Ros
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Death: bef 23 Dec 1226[1]
Birth: ca 1172[1]
Father: Everard de Ros (-1183)
Mother: Rohese Trussebut (ca1151-<1197)
of Helmsley in Holderness, co. York and Wark, Northumberland
succeeded to the Trussebut inheritance of his mother, 1196
of the escort of William, King of Scots to court in England, Nov.
1200 and in 1209
Sheriff of Cumberland, 1213-1215[1]
Surety for the Magna Carta, 1215; returned to allegiance to the King,
November 1217
2nd husband of Isabel 'of Scotland'[1]
Spouse: Isabel of Scotland
Father: William 'the Lion', King of Scots (1143-1214)
Mother: NN
Marr: 1191, Haddington, Scotland[1]
Children: Sir William (-ca1264)
Robert (-1269)
1.1 Sir William de Ros
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Death: ca 1264[1]
Burial: Kirkham
of Helmsley in Holderness, co. York
on pilgrimage to Santiago del Compostela, 1252[1]
Spouse: Lucy fitz Piers
Death: aft 1265[2]
Father: Piers fitz Herbert (->1235)
Mother: Alice fitz Roger
Children: Sir Robert (-1285)
Sir William (-<1310)
Alexander
Herbert
John
Piers
Lucy
Alice
1.1.1 Sir Robert de Ros
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Death: 17 May 1285[2]
Burial: Kirkham[1]
of Helmsley, co. York and Belvoir, co. Leicester (de jure uxoris)[2]
summoned to Parliament 24 December 1264 by writ, held to have become
Lord Ros (in rebellion); had custody of Prince Edward at Hereford
Castle (the Prince escaped his custody, 18 May 1265). Surrendered
Gloucester to the Prince, 29 June 1265; received full pardon after
Evesham, 14 August 1265[1]
Spouse: Isabel d'Aubigny
Birth: ca 1234[3]
Death: 15 Jun 1301[1]
Father: William d'Aubigny (-1242), of Belvoir, co. Leics.
Mother: Isabel (->1284)
Marr: bef 17 May 1244[1]
Children: William (<1255-<1316)
Mary (-<1326)
Robert
John
Nicholas
Isabel
1.1.1.1 William de Ros
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Death: bef 16 Aug 1316[1]
Birth: bef 27 Jun 1255[1]
Burial: Kirkham
Occ: Lord Ros
of Helmsley, co. York and Belvoir, co. Leicester
summoned to Parliament from 6 Feb 1298/99 to 16 Oct 1315 by writs
directed 'Willelmo de Ros de Hamelak', whereby held to be 1st Lord
Ros of Helmsley[1]
Competitor for the Scottish crown (descent from William the Lion), 1292
received grant of Wark, Northumberland following confiscation of
cousin Robert de Ros, Dec 1301[1]
Spouse: Maud de Vaux
Birth: ca 1261[4]
Death: bef 1316[1]
Father: John de Vaux (<1231-1287)
Mother: Sibyl de Longchamps
Marr: bef 1287[2]
Children: William (-1342)
Agnes (-<1328)
John
1.1.1.1.1a William de Ros*
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Death: 3 Feb 1342[1]
Burial: Kirkham
Occ: Lord Ros
2nd Lord Ros of Helmsley
first husband of Margery de Badlesmere[1]
Spouse: Margery de Badlesmere
Birth: abt 1306[5],[1]
Death: 18 Oct 1363[5]
Father: Bartholomew de Badlesmere (~1275-1322)
Mother: Margaret de Clare (<1286-1333)
Marr: bef 25 Nov 1326[2]
Children: Maud (-1388)
William (-<1352)
Thomas (1336-1384)
Elizabeth
Other Spouses Agnes
1.1.1.1.1b William de Ros* (See above)
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Spouse: Agnes
Children: Alice (-<1344)
Other Spouses Margery de Badlesmere
1.1.1.1.2 Agnes de Ros
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Death: bef 25 Nov 1328[2]
m. 2ndly Thomas de Vere (who d.v.p. 1329)
Spouse: Payn de Tibetot
Death: 24 Jun 1314, Battle of Bannockburn[2]
Birth: bef 25 Jun 1281[2]
Father: Sir Robert de Tibetot (1228-1298)
Mother: Eve de Chaworth (-<1300)
Marr: bef 3 Sep 1311[1]
Children: John (1313-1367)
1.1.1.1.3 John de Ros[1]
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1.1.1.2 Mary de Ros
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Death: bef 23 May 1326[1]
3rd wife[1]
Spouse: Sir William de Braose
Death: bef 6 Jan 1290[1]
Birth: bef 15 Jul 1224[6]
Father: John de Braose (~1197-<1232) of Bramber and Gower
Mother: Margaret verch Llywelyn
Marr: bef 1272[1]
Children: Richard (-1295)
Piers (-1311)
William (-1360)
1.1.1.2.1 Richard de Braose
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Death: 1295, d.s.p.[1]
of Tetbury, co. Gloucester & c.[1]
1.1.1.2.2 Piers de Braose
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Death: 1311[1]
of Tetbury, co. Gloucester & c.[1]
Children: Thomas
John
1.1.1.2.3 William de Braose
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Death: 1360[2]
of Westneston or Wiston, Sussex
Spouse: Eleanor de Bavant[2]
Father: Sir Roger de Bavant
Children: Sir Peter (-ca1377)
1.1.1.3 Robert de Ros
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1.1.1.4 John de Ros
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1.1.1.5 Nicholas de Ros
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1.1.1.6 Isabel de Ros
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1.1.2 Sir William de Ros
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Death: bef 28 May 1310[1]
Occ: baron of Ingmanthorpe
of Ingmanthorpe in Kirk Deighton, co. Yorks.
2nd or 3rd son
held Ingmanthorpe of Robert de Ros of Helmsley, 1284[1]
second husband of Eustache [7]
Spouse: Eustache FitzHugh
Father: Ralph FitzHugh
Marr: bef Oct 1268[1]
Children: Lucy
William (-<1334)
Juetta
1.1.2.1 Lucy de Ros
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Spouse: Sir Robert de Plumpton
Death: 1325
Children: Sir William (-1362)
1.1.2.1.1 Sir William de Plumpton
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Death: 1362
sheriff of Yorkshire 1351 [8]
Spouse: Christiana de Mowbray
Death: 1365
Children: Sir Robert (~1320-1407)
1.1.2.2 William de Ros
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Death: bef 12 Nov 1334[1]
of Ingmanthorpe, co. Yorks.
Spouse: Isabel de Steeton
Death: aft 1310[1]
Father: Richard de Steeton
1.1.2.3 Juetta de Ros
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evidently daughter of William de Ros (CP Vol XI, Scrope, p. 560,
note k) - so held by Glover and Vincent, per Nicolas[1]
'In 1322/3, William de Ros of Ingmanthorp, kt., granted to Geoffrey
le Scrope and Ivette (or Juetta) his wife during their lives the
manors of South Muskham and Carleton, and later released them, as
did his wife Isabel;..'[1]
Spouse: Geoffrey le Scrope
Birth: bef 1285[1]
Death: Dec 1340, Ghent[1]
Father: William le Scrope (-<1311)
Mother: Constance de Newsom
Children: Henry (1312-1392)
1.1.2.3.1 Henry le Scrope
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Birth: 29 Sep 1312[1]
Death: 31 Jul 1392[1]
Occ: Lord Scrope
of Masham, co. York
fought under the Earl of Northampton at Berwick (knighted May 1333)
and the Battle of Halidon Hill, 20 Jul 1333
fought at the Battle of Sluys 24 June 1340 and at Tournai, 1341;
Battle of Neville's Cross, 17 Oct 1346 against the Scots
in the camp at the siege of Calais, 1347
summoned to Parliament from 25 Nov 1350 to 7 Sept 1391 by writs
directed 'Henrico le Scrop', whereby held to have become Lord
Scrope[1]
Children: Geoffrey (-<1392)
Stephen (ca1345-1405)
1.1.3 Alexander de Ros
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1.1.4 Herbert de Ros
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1.1.5 John de Ros
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1.1.6 Piers de Ros
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1.1.7 Lucy de Ros
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1.1.8 Alice de Ros
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1.2 Robert de Ros
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Death: 1269[1]
knight, of Wark on Tweed, Northumberland and Sanquhar, Nithsdale
Chief Justice of King's Bench, 1234; Chief Justice of the Forests
North of Trent, 1236[1]
Spouse: Christian Bertram[2]
Father: Roger Bertram (-1241)
Mother: Agnes
Children: William
Robert (-<1274)
1.2.1 William de Ros
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of Downham, co. York
elder son, 'disinherited' by brother Robert being made heir by his
father
'claimed an estate in Downham and Mindrum, then in possession of
Robert, s. of Robert de Ros', Nov. 1269[1]
Children: William (->1292)
1.2.1.1 William de Ros
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Death: aft 1292
of Downham, co .York
'claimed the manor of Plenmeller, near Haltwhistle, against Robert's
widow Margaret, as surviving son and heir of William de Ros, elder
brother of her late husband', 1293[1]
1.2.2 Robert de Ros
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Death: bef 20 Apr 1274[2]
of Wark on Tweed, Northumberland
younger son, made heir to father[2]
Spouse: Margaret de Brus
Father: Piers de Brus (-1240)
Mother: Hawise de Lancaster
Children: Robert (->1296)
William (-<1310)
1.2.2.1 Robert de Ros
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Death: aft Mar 1296, d.s.p.m. (probably in Scotland)[1]
Occ: Lord Ros of Wark
of Wark on Tweed, Northumberland
summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 by writ directed 'Roberto de
Roos de Werke', thereby held to have become Lord Ros of Wark[9]
in support of Scottish cause against Edward I, resisted at Wark and
defeated forces of his brother, March 1296 (subsequently fled to
Scotland)[10] - Wark taken by forces of Edward I of England[11]
Spouse: Laura[1]
Children: Margaret (->1321)
1.2.2.1.1 Margaret de Ros
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Death: aft 26 Dec 1321[12]
reported to have obtained restoration of her rights, forfeited by her
father:
'In 1367 Gerard Salveyn, kinsman and h. of Margaret, obtained an
exemplification of letters patent, said to have been dated at
Clipstone, 6 Nov. 1312 [not enrolled], pardoning to her her
father's forfeitures for adhering to the Scots, under Edward I's
promise to John Comyn and his men (Cal. Patent Rolls, 1364-67, p. 41).'
[CP Vol XI - Ros of Wark, p. 122n][1]
see also Dugdale, Baronage of England under Ros of Werke, p. 555[13]
Spouse: John Salvain
Death: bef 13 Mar 1320[14],[12]
Father: Robert Salvayn (-<1297) of North Duffield, co. Yorks.
Mother: Sibilla Beeston (->1286)
Children: Sir Gerard (<1308-1373)
1.2.2.2 William de Ros
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Death: bef 9 May 1310[2]
of Kendal, Westmoreland[2]
received share of inheritance of his mother[1]
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David Faris).
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U...@aol.com, ee-mail n 8/4/2000.
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Braose Family," Oct 3, 1999, GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
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(@rootsweb.com), 22 June 1999, posted on GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
8. "Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire," compiled by
Joseph Foster, W. Wilfred Head, London, 1874.
9. "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages," Burke's
Peerage, from Genealogy.com Family History: Notable British
Families, p. 460 (Ros).
10. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press,
1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs
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S. Barrow, Edinburgh University Press, 1976 (2nd ed.).
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the Harleian Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
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Genealogical Publishing Company, 1975).
Hugh Jones
Small point Allen, William lost his lordship of Belvoir on Christmas
day 1215 when the Crown took possesion of Belvoir.King John then
handed it over to Geoffrey and Olliver de Buteville and they became
it's Governors (Christmas present),in 1247 when it was handed over to
the De Ros family as part of the Albini family marriage settlement.
King Johns feet and hand cutting excercise at Rochester castle had a
salient effect.
All the best
Hugh
Thanks to MrM.Cook for Rochester
messager
(no one is whose you search )
> but what you write can help Richard Borri :-)))
one of the precious genealogies I have find
F.
http://www.ma-genealogie.org/borri/familles/index3-9.htm#D'AUBIGNY
D'AUBIGNY
D'AUBIGNY, Alice n.1140 -
D'AUBIGNY, Guillaume Comte n.1173 -
D'AUBIGNY, Guillaume n.1000 -
D'AUBIGNY, Guillaume Ier Pincerna n.1050 -
D'AUBIGNY, Guillaume II dit Pincerne n.1080 -
D'AUBIGNY, Guillaume III Comte n.1100 -
D'AUBIGNY, Henri Ier n.1118 -
D'AUBIGNY, Isabelle n.1200 -
D'AUBIGNY, Isabelle n.1290 -
D'AUBIGNY, Marguerite n.1145 -
D'AUBIGNY, Maud n.1180 -
D'AUBIGNY, Nigel n.1070 -
D'AUBIGNY, Roger n.1030 -
Jean FITZALAN [Parents] est né environ 1170. Il est décédé en 1239. Jean a
épousé Isabelle D'AUBIGNY.
Isabelle D'AUBIGNY [Parents] est née environ 1200. Elle est décédée NC.
Isabelle a épousé Jean FITZALAN.
Ils ont eu les enfants suivants:
M i John FITZALAN Earl est né en 1223, et est décédé avant le 10
novembre 1267.
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Guy DE PERRIERE est né environ 1285. Il a épousé Isabelle D'AUBIGNY.
Isabelle D'AUBIGNY est née environ 1290. Elle a épousé Guy DE PERRIERE.
Ils ont eu les enfants suivants:
F i Alix DE PERRIERE est née environ 1315, et est décédée environ
1379.
"Allen John Mallory" <allen....@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de
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messager
this is those you search, I think
the site of François Marchi (canadian) is also one of the more precious
FP.
Isabelle d' Aubigny
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Fille de Guillaume d' Aubigny.
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Elle épousa Sir Robert de Ros, fils de Sir William de Ros et Lucy FitzPiers.
Elle décède le 1301.
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1. Seigneur William Ier de Ros (de Sir Robert de Ros).
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Isabelle d' Aubigny Guillaume d' Aubigny Guilllaume d' Aubigny ( -
1236)
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Seigneur William Ier de Ros
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Fils de Sir Robert de Ros et de Isabelle d' Aubigny.
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Il fut couronné premier seigneur de Ros. Il décède le 1316.
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1. Agnes de Ros (de Seigneur William Ier de Ros).
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Seigneur William Ier de Ros Sir Robert de Ros Sir William de Ros
Robert de Ros ( - 1226)
Isabelle d' Écosse Roi Guillaume Ier d' Écosse dit le Lion (1143 -
1214)
Ermengarde de Beaumont ( - 1234)
Lucy FitzPiers
Isabelle d' Aubigny Guillaume d' Aubigny Guilllaume d' Aubigny ( -
1236)
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Agnes de Ros
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Fille de Seigneur William Ier de Ros.
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Elle épousa Lord Payn Ier Tybotot. Elle décède le 1328.
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1. Lord John Tybotot (de Lord Payn Ier Tybotot).
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Agnes de Ros Seigneur William Ier de Ros Sir Robert de Ros Sir
William de Ros Robert de Ros ( - 1226)
Isabelle d' Écosse
Lucy FitzPiers
Isabelle d' Aubigny Guillaume d' Aubigny Guilllaume d' Aubigny ( -
1236)
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