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C.P. Correction: Death date of Phillippe Mortimer (died 1400), wife of John de Hastings, Earl of Pembroke, Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel & Surrey, and Thomas Poynings, Lord Saint John
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Sep 4, 2018, 9:46:27 PM9/4/18
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Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 244–245 (sub Arundel); 10 (1945): 394–397 (sub Pembroke); and 11 (1949): 328-329 (sub Saint John) documents the marital history of Philippe Mortimer, daughter of Edmund de Mortimer, Knt., Earl of March and Ulster, by Philippe, daughter and heiress of Lionel of Antwerp, K.G., Duke of Clarence, 5th Earl of Ulster (son of King Edward III of England).
According to many publishes sources, Philippe married (1st) John de Hastings, Knt., 3rd Earl of Pembroke (died 30 or 31 Dec. 1389); (2nd) Richard de Arundel, K.G., Earl of Arundel and Surrey (beheaded 21 Sept. 1397); and (3rd) Thomas Poynings (alias Saint John), Knt., 5th Lord Saint John of Basing (died 7 March 1428/9).
The subject of this post is the death date of Philippe Mortimer which is given differently by the various accounts of Complete Peerage.
1. Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 244–245 (sub Arundel) states that Philippe Mortimer died "24 Sept. 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, being buried at Boxgrove." END OF QUOTE.
No documentation is provided for this statement.
2. Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 394–397 (sub Pembroke) states that Philippe Mortimer died "24 Sept. 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, and was buried at Boxgrove, near Lewes." END OF QUOTE.
No documentation is provided for this statement.
3. Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 328-329 (sub Saint John) states that Philippe Mortimer died 25 Sept. 1400 at Halnaker, and was buried in Boxgrove priory." END OF QUOTE.
The documentation cited for this information: Adam of Usk, Chron., pg. 55.
The source cited above by Complete Peerage for Philippe Mortimer's death date is found in Chronicon Adæ de Usk 1377–1421 (1904): 54-55, which may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=DoLSAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA54
Under the year 1400 the following information is recorded:
“Vijo kalendas Octobris [25 September], nobilissima domina mea, domina Philippa, domini met comitis Marchie filia, primo juveni probissimo comiti Penbrochie aput Wotstok in hastiludio perempto, et postea nobili comiti Arundelle decapitato, tercio domino de Seynt John conjugata, modicum postquam mihi ecclesiam de Westhanfeld, in Essexia, donaverat, nondum xxiiijtum etatis sue annum attingens, aput Halnakyt juxta Cicestriam, viam universe carnis est ingressa, et in prioratu de Bosgrove jacet tumulata.”).
The chronicle of Adam of Usk relates that Philippe Mortimer died 25 September 1400, at Halnaker, Sussex, and was buried at Boxgrove Priory, just as stated in the Saint John account in Complete Peerage. However, this date is obviously at variance with the date of her death provided in the Arundel and Pembroke accounts in Complete Peerage, namely 24 September 1401. Which of these two dates is correct?
Fortunately a full transcript of an inquisition post mortem for Philippe Mortimer is available in a little known source, Minutes of Evidence ... [re.] the Title & Dignity of Baron Hastings (1840): 67-69. This transcript can be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=atcNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA67
The inquisition was taken on Tuesday, 23 November 1400. It specifically states that Philippe died on the sabbath before the feast of St. Michael previous. That translates to the date 25 September 1400.
Thus the date of death recorded for Philippe Mortimer in the Chronicle of Adam of Usk is fully confirmed by the inquisition post mortem.
In summary, Complete Peerage under separate accounts gives two different death dates for Philippe Mortimer, namely 25 September 1400 and 24 September 1401. The Chronicle of Adam of Usk and an inquisition post mortem for Philippe Mortimer prove that she died 25 September 1400.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 244–245 (sub Arundel); 10 (1945): 394–397 (sub Pembroke); and 11 (1949): 328-329 (sub Saint John) documents the marital history of Philippe Mortimer, daughter of Edmund de Mortimer, Knt., Earl of March and Ulster, by Philippe, daughter and heiress of Lionel of Antwerp, K.G., Duke of Clarence, 5th Earl of Ulster (son of King Edward III of England).
According to many publishes sources, Philippe married (1st) John de Hastings, Knt., 3rd Earl of Pembroke (died 30 or 31 Dec. 1389); (2nd) Richard de Arundel, K.G., Earl of Arundel and Surrey (beheaded 21 Sept. 1397); and (3rd) Thomas Poynings (alias Saint John), Knt., 5th Lord Saint John of Basing (died 7 March 1428/9).
The subject of this post is the death date of Philippe Mortimer which is given differently by the various accounts of Complete Peerage.
1. Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 244–245 (sub Arundel) states that Philippe Mortimer died "24 Sept. 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, being buried at Boxgrove." END OF QUOTE.
No documentation is provided for this statement.
2. Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 394–397 (sub Pembroke) states that Philippe Mortimer died "24 Sept. 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, and was buried at Boxgrove, near Lewes." END OF QUOTE.
No documentation is provided for this statement.
3. Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 328-329 (sub Saint John) states that Philippe Mortimer died 25 Sept. 1400 at Halnaker, and was buried in Boxgrove priory." END OF QUOTE.
The documentation cited for this information: Adam of Usk, Chron., pg. 55.
The source cited above by Complete Peerage for Philippe Mortimer's death date is found in Chronicon Adæ de Usk 1377–1421 (1904): 54-55, which may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=DoLSAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA54
Under the year 1400 the following information is recorded:
“Vijo kalendas Octobris [25 September], nobilissima domina mea, domina Philippa, domini met comitis Marchie filia, primo juveni probissimo comiti Penbrochie aput Wotstok in hastiludio perempto, et postea nobili comiti Arundelle decapitato, tercio domino de Seynt John conjugata, modicum postquam mihi ecclesiam de Westhanfeld, in Essexia, donaverat, nondum xxiiijtum etatis sue annum attingens, aput Halnakyt juxta Cicestriam, viam universe carnis est ingressa, et in prioratu de Bosgrove jacet tumulata.”).
The chronicle of Adam of Usk relates that Philippe Mortimer died 25 September 1400, at Halnaker, Sussex, and was buried at Boxgrove Priory, just as stated in the Saint John account in Complete Peerage. However, this date is obviously at variance with the date of her death provided in the Arundel and Pembroke accounts in Complete Peerage, namely 24 September 1401. Which of these two dates is correct?
Fortunately a full transcript of an inquisition post mortem for Philippe Mortimer is available in a little known source, Minutes of Evidence ... [re.] the Title & Dignity of Baron Hastings (1840): 67-69. This transcript can be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=atcNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA67
The inquisition was taken on Tuesday, 23 November 1400. It specifically states that Philippe died on the sabbath before the feast of St. Michael previous. That translates to the date 25 September 1400.
Thus the date of death recorded for Philippe Mortimer in the Chronicle of Adam of Usk is fully confirmed by the inquisition post mortem.
In summary, Complete Peerage under separate accounts gives two different death dates for Philippe Mortimer, namely 25 September 1400 and 24 September 1401. The Chronicle of Adam of Usk and an inquisition post mortem for Philippe Mortimer prove that she died 25 September 1400.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
celticp...@gmail.com
Sep 5, 2018, 1:39:39 PM9/5/18
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Dear Newsgroup ~
Yesterday I posted a copy of the Latin text of the Chronicle of Adam of Usk which concerns the death date of Philippe Mortimer. The published modern edition of the chronicle also includes an English translation of the Latin text which I have copied below.
Source: Chronicon Adæ de Usk 1377–1421 (1904): 217.
A.D. 1400: "On the twenty-fifth day of September, the most noble lady, my lady Philippa, daughter of my lord the earl of March, who was wedded first to that most proper youth the earl of Pembroke who was slain in a tourney at Woodstock, and next to the noble earl of Arundel who was beheaded, and thirdly to the lord Saint John, a little while after she had presented me to the church of West Hanningfield in Essex, and before she had yet reached her four-and-twentieth year, went the way of all flesh at Halnaker by Chichester, and lies buried in the priory of Boxgrove." END OF QUOTE.
The above may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=DoLSAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA217
Although much married, Philippe Mortimer had no children by any of her marriages. However, there are modern descendants of her second and third husbands by their other marriages.
Below is a list of the 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Richard de Arundel, K.G, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth de Bohun:
Robert Abell, Elizabeth Alsop, William Asfordby, Dorothy Beresford, William Bladen, Mary Bourchier, Charles Calvert, Grace Chetwode, James & Norton Claypoole, St. Leger Codd, Elizabeth & Thomas Coytemore, William Crymes, Francis Dade, Edward Digges, John Fenwick, John Fisher, Edward Foliot, Thomas Gerard, Muriel Gurdon, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Daniel & John Humphrey, Thomas Ligon, Thomas Lunsford, Oliver Manwaring, Anne Mauleverer, John and Margaret Nelson, Elizabeth, Joshua, & Rebecca Owen, John Oxenbridge, Richard Palgrave, Herbert Pelham, William & Elizabeth Pole, Henry & William Randolph, Thomas Rudyard, Katherine Saint Leger, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John West, Hawte Wyatt, Amy Wyllys.
Below is a list of the 17th Century immigrant that descends from Thomas Poynings (alias Saint John), Knt., 5th Lord Saint John of Basing, by his 1st
wife, Joan le Strange:
William Goddard
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Yesterday I posted a copy of the Latin text of the Chronicle of Adam of Usk which concerns the death date of Philippe Mortimer. The published modern edition of the chronicle also includes an English translation of the Latin text which I have copied below.
Source: Chronicon Adæ de Usk 1377–1421 (1904): 217.
A.D. 1400: "On the twenty-fifth day of September, the most noble lady, my lady Philippa, daughter of my lord the earl of March, who was wedded first to that most proper youth the earl of Pembroke who was slain in a tourney at Woodstock, and next to the noble earl of Arundel who was beheaded, and thirdly to the lord Saint John, a little while after she had presented me to the church of West Hanningfield in Essex, and before she had yet reached her four-and-twentieth year, went the way of all flesh at Halnaker by Chichester, and lies buried in the priory of Boxgrove." END OF QUOTE.
The above may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=DoLSAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA217
Although much married, Philippe Mortimer had no children by any of her marriages. However, there are modern descendants of her second and third husbands by their other marriages.
Below is a list of the 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Richard de Arundel, K.G, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth de Bohun:
Robert Abell, Elizabeth Alsop, William Asfordby, Dorothy Beresford, William Bladen, Mary Bourchier, Charles Calvert, Grace Chetwode, James & Norton Claypoole, St. Leger Codd, Elizabeth & Thomas Coytemore, William Crymes, Francis Dade, Edward Digges, John Fenwick, John Fisher, Edward Foliot, Thomas Gerard, Muriel Gurdon, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Daniel & John Humphrey, Thomas Ligon, Thomas Lunsford, Oliver Manwaring, Anne Mauleverer, John and Margaret Nelson, Elizabeth, Joshua, & Rebecca Owen, John Oxenbridge, Richard Palgrave, Herbert Pelham, William & Elizabeth Pole, Henry & William Randolph, Thomas Rudyard, Katherine Saint Leger, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John West, Hawte Wyatt, Amy Wyllys.
Below is a list of the 17th Century immigrant that descends from Thomas Poynings (alias Saint John), Knt., 5th Lord Saint John of Basing, by his 1st
wife, Joan le Strange:
William Goddard
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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