William Strother gateway ancestor?

[Gary Ferrill]

Is the William Strother that settled in Va considered a verified gateway ancestor? I have seen references to him being one but no documented proof.

[Jane Alexander]

I did not find William Strother of Virginia in Doug Richardson's Magna
Carta ancestry.

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> Is the William Strother that settled in Va considered a verified gateway
> ancestor? I have seen references to him being one but no documented proof.
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Mr. Ferrill,

In addition to your question about William Strother I found a previous post of yours asking about a possible royal descent for Anthony Savage of Virginia. I'd be glad to send you suggested lines of descent for William Strother and Anthony Savage from the most recent edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD600 available on ancesty.com which includes sources and his comments.

Cordially,
Marc
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[Gary Ferrill]

It would be greatly appreciated. I also have William Thornton the immigrant as an ancestor who was also connected to the Savage/Strother lines but Im not sure if there is any medieval genealogy available for him.

Mr. Ferrill,

Cordially,
Marc
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Gary,

President James Madison's known ancestry through his fourth great-grandparents is treated in the 2009 edition of _Ancestors of American Presidents_ by Gary Boyd Roberts. William Thornton of Gloucester and Stafford Co., VA, d. post 1708 is #52 in Madison's ancestor table with no parents or spouse listed. I'll send you the section on Madison's ancestry along with the corresponding bibliography.

Cordially,
Marc

[marlow...@frontier.com]

I am kin to Pres. James Madison also through my 9th great grandparents Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead through their daughter Elltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.

Eltonhead 's brother Edwin Conway, Jr..... EDWIN CONWAY, JR. was born 11 May 1644 in Old Rappahannock County,, Virginia and died before 7 Sep 1698 in Richmond Co. Va. He married (2) ELIZABETH THORNTON 21 Nay 1695 in Richmond Co., Va., daughter of FRANCIS THORNTON and ALICE STAFFORD SAVAGE. She was born 3 Jan 1673/4 in Petsworth Parish, Gloucester Co., Va. and died 2 Dec 1732 in King George Co., Va.

Elizabeth Thornton was born 3 Jan 1674 in Gloucester Co.,Va., and died 2 Dec 1732 in King George,Va.. She married Edwin Conway Jr. 21 May 1695 in Richmond,Va., son of Edwin Conway. He was born ABT 1653 in Lancaster,Va., and died 19 Mar 1697 in Richmond Co.,Va.. She married Jonathan Gibson 3 Mar 1698 in Richmond,Va.. He was born ABT 1672 in Va..

URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/thornton/messages/6413.html
URL title: Will of Francis Thornton (d.1726) King George Co VA
Note:
Will of Francis Thornton:
In the Name of God Amen. I Francis Thornton of the County of King George considering the frailty of this mortal life and being sick and weak in Body but of sound and perfect sense and memory praised be God for the same doe make and Ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following:
Item: I give to two sons Francis Thornton and Rowland Thornton all my tract of Land at the foot of the Lower Falls of Rappahannock River containing Eight Hundred & Odd acres which I purchased of Mr. John Hawkins, my son Francis to have the upper part and my son Rowland the lower part of the said land by equal portions as it is already divided. The said Land with all its appurtenances doe I give and bequeath to my said two sons Francis and Rowland to them or either of them their heirs forever.

Item: I give and bequeath to my son Rowland Thornton the moiety or half of a tract of land containing one thousand acrew which I purchased of Mr. John Wright as by deed of sale recorded in Richmond County Court may appear the said moiety or half which I do give and bequeath to my son Rowland beginning on the lines of John Hawxford and Thomas Tippett and running the full breadth of the said land on both sides Crowes Swamp upwards to a division line already made by my son Anthony Thornton by my consent which said five hundred acres I doe give and bequeath to my said son Rowland Thornton his heirs and behoofs forever.

Item: I give and bequeath the other moiety or half of the said Thousand acres of land purchased of John Wright to my Loving Wife Anne Thornton in full dower and satisfaction of all my Lands before given and bequeathed that she shall claim no right, title, interest or claim in or to any of my other lands before bequeathed which said five hundred acres of land I give to my said Wife during her natural life and after her decease that is to say after the death of said wife Anne then the said five hundred acres of land I give and bequeath unto George Riding, the son of my wife Anne Thornton, to him the said George Riding his heirs and behoofs forever.
Item: I give and bequeath to George Riding the son of my Wife Anne Thornton, one tract or tenement of land containing one hundred and seventy odd acres which I purchased of Capt. John Washington lying and being in the County of King George, the said land I do give and bequeath unto the above named George Riding to him and his heirs forever.

Item: I give and bequeath unto my eldest son William Thornton Five pounds of Sterling.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Francis Thornton Five pounds Sterling.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my eldest daughter Elizabeth Gibson Five pounds Sterling.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Sarah Taliaferro Five pounds Sterling.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Margaret Strother Thirty pounds Sterling. I having Ninety pounds Sterling now due to me from my son Anthony Thornton, my will is that these above named legacies to all my children above named be paid out of the said Ninety pounds and the remainder of the said ninety pounds after all the above said Money Lagacies are paid, I give and bequeath unto my son Anthony Thornton.
Item: I give and bequeath unto my grandson Francis Conway one mulatto girl named Bess.
Item: I give and bequeath unto the within named George Riding, son of my Wife Ann, five slaves by name - Mullato James, Negro Dick, Negro Jane, Negro Nanny and a Negro boy named Samuel.

Item: The rest of my Negroes I give and bequeath unto my Loving Wife Anne Thornton during her natural life and after her decease I will and bequeath all my said Negros to be divided by equal portions between George & Margaret Riding, son & daughter of my now wife Anne Thornton.
Item: I give all my personal estate unto my Loving Wife Anne Thornton during her widdowhood and in case she marrieth my said personal estate to be equally divided between my said wife and her two within named Children George & Margaret Riding by three equal portions. And I do hereby make constitute and ordain my loving wife Anne Thornton my whole and sole Executrix of this my Last Will & Testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seale this 10th day of may 1726. Frans Thornton (Seale) Signed Sealed and Acknowledged in presence of us
T: Turner
Thomas Moore
his
John [I] Kendall
mark
At a Court held for King George County on Friday ye. 7th day of October 1726. This last Will & Testament of Francis Thornton, deceased, was presented into Court by Anne Thornton, his Widdow & Executrix, who made oath thereto and the same was proved by the oaths of Thomas Turner, Thomas Moore, and John Kendall the Evidences thereto and Admitted to Record. Copy Test T: Turner Cl:Cur:

William Strother was born ABT 1665 in Gloucester Co, Virginia, and died 1 JUL 1726 in Hanover Parish, King George County, Virginia. He was the son of 2. William Strother and 3. Dorothy Savage. He married Margaret Thornton 2 APR 1698 in Sittingbourne Parish, Old Rappahannock County, Virginia, daughter of Francis Thornton and Alice Savage. She was born 14 AUG 1676 in Petsworth Parish, Gloucester County, Virginia, and died AFT 1739 in Hanover Parish, King George County, Virginia.

1721-1735 King George County Deed Book 1, Part II, (Antient Press); pp. 453
To all Xtion People .. I MARGARET STROTHER of Hanover Parish King George County Widow for natural love unto my Son WILLIAM STROTHER granted 300 acres formerly given by Deed of Gift by my Grandfather ANTHONY SAVAGE Gent. Deced to my ffather FRANCIS THORNTON Gent. and my Mother ALICE his wife for their natural lives and by reversion to me and my heirs forever said land lying on north side of Rappahannock River commonly called Mangikamux and now lying in ye Parish of Hanover .. to be taken out of the thousand acres of land belonging to the sd ANTHONY SAVAGE beginning at uper corner tree•in the river .. including 300 acres taking a proportionable bredth on the River .. reserving to myself & heirs .. one half acre of land for a burying place to be laid of Squares ye angles to be East, West, North & South including ye Graves that now are & they to be in ye Center first day of August anno Dom 1727.
Presence Harry Beverley, Margaret Strother
Mosley Battaley, Enoch Innis
1st September 1727 .. Deed of Gift recorded.

I cannot give the medieval part but only Virginia data.

Marianne Dillow

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The younger William Strother data:

Born About 1697-1700 in St. Paul's Parish, King George County, Virginia
Death 2 MAR 1732/33 in "Ferry Farm", King George County, Virginia - Probate


KING GEORGE COUNTY VIRGINIA WILL BOOK A-1;1721-1752 {George Harrison Sanford King}; Page 95
WILL OF WILLIAM STROTHER
In the Name of God Amen. I William Strother of the County of King George in the Colony of Virginia, Gent., being sick and weak of body but of sound and perfect memory thanks be to God for the same, do make and ordain this my last Will & Testament hereby revoking making null & void all others by me formerly made.
Imps I give and bequeath my whole estate both real and person-al to be equally divided between my dear and loving wife Margaret Strother and my six children namely Elizabeth, Alice, Agatha, Margaret, Anne & Jane Strother and further it is my will and desire that my lands in Prine William County and King George County be sold to the highest bidder in Money & Tobacco by my Executor here-after named if she thinks convenient and the money thereon arising be equally divided as aforesaid. And my will and desire is that if my wife should dye before such sale be made that my brother Anthony Strother by these presents have full power and authority to sell the same in manner aforesaid if he shall think convenient and the money thereon arising to be equally divided among my children above named.
Lastly I do hereby constitute ordain and appoint my dear and loving wife Margaret Strother my whole and sole Executor of this my last Will & Testament. In Wittnes whereof I have hereunto set my
hand and seal this twentieth day of November Anno Dom. 1732. *******
Wm Strother *Seale* ******* Sealed published & declared
in the presence of us R: Rogers
His
George [ T.: ] Sympson Mark
Mary Higginson
At a Court held for King George County the 2d day of March 1732 [1732/3].
The last Will & Testament of William Strother, Gent., Dece., was presented into Court by Margaret Strother his Widow and Executrix who made oath thereto and the same was proved by the oath of Richard Rogers and admitted to record.
Copes Test:
T: Turner Cl: Cur


Known as William Strother of "Stafford," to distinguish him from his nephew, William Strother, son of his brother, Francis Strother, of St. Mark's Parish, and Susanna Dabney, and this nephew was afterwards known as William Strother of "Orange."

1721 COURT: Caroline Co, Virginia, William Strother part of 6,000 acre tract granted in Caroline Co, Virginia, by Alexander Spotswood to his favorites.

1724 MIL: King George County, Virginia, militia commission, 5 Sep.

1733 WILL: King George County, Virginia, Inventory.

1735 COURT: Caroline Co, Virginia, Willam Strother, decd, Margaret Strother, exer.

William Strother was b. about1697- 1700. After the destruction of the old mansion house of his grandfather, the first William Strother, he sold his estate near Port Conway, and purchased on the river opposite Fredericksburg in 1727. His daughters were all born there at this farm which was sold to Capt. Augustine Washington, father of George, in 1738. This tract was sold, per the directions of his will, in 1738 by John Grant,. Gent, and Margaret , his then wife, widow and executrix of William Strother, Gent, decd, to Capt. Augustine Washington. Thus when George Washington was 6 years of age, he came to live there. There his father died on 12 Apr 1743; his mother lived there until 1748 when she moved to "Little Falls" and later to Fredericksburg to be near her only daughter, Mrs. Lewis, who lived at "Kenmore." The deed was dated 2 Nov 1738 and recorded in King George County, Virginia, and conveyed 280 acres of land in Stafford County, Virginia. On May 26, I727, William received a grant for 266 acres in King George Co.; and Sept. 12, 1731, as "Captain" William Strother, 372 acres in Prince William Co. He was sheriff and justice of King George County, and vestryman of the parish. He married Margaret Watts. William died in 1732, and in his will directs sale of his lands in King George and Prince William Cos., and names his wife as extx (Owen, William Strother of VA, 1898, p.8, with corrections by compiler).

Children:

(1)Elizabeth Strother m. John Frogg
(2)Agatha, m. John Madison
(3)Margaret, b. in King George county, m. (1) April 26, 1744, George Morton, who d, in a short time; (2) Oct. 16, 1749, Gabriel Jones.
(4)Anne, m. May 17, 1744, Francis Tyler, resided in Culpeper and later in Augusta Co.
(5)Jane, m. Jan. 26, I749, Thomas Lewis.
(6)(Alice, m. Henry Tyler).

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Children of Margaret WATTS and William STROTHER are:
i. Alice STROTHER was born 1719 in Richmond,VA. She married Henry TYLER 1738 in Prince William,VA, son of Francis TYLER and ? ?. He was born Abt 1715.

ii. Elizabeth STROTHER was born 1721 in King George,VA, and died 1752. She married John FROGG 9 NOV 1738 in Overwharton Pari,Stafford,VA. He was born Abt 1720, and died 1794 in Bath,VA.

iii. Anne STROTHER was born 1723 in King George. She married Francis TYLER 14 MAY 1744 in Stafford,VA, son of Francis TYLER and ? ?. He was born Abt 1720.

iv. Margaret STROTHER was born 3 SEP 1726 in King George,VA, and died 1822 in Port Republic,Rockingham,VA. She married George MORTON 26 APR 1744 in King George,VA. He was born Abt 1725, and died Abt 1745. She married Gabriel JONES 16 OCT 1749 in Stafford,VA, son of John JONES and Elizabeth ?. He was born 14 MAY 1724 in nr Williamsburg,VA, and died 6 OCT 1806 in Port Republic,Rockingham,VA.

v. Agatha STROTHER was born 1728 in King George,VA. She married John MADISON 1745 in King George,VA, son of Ambrose MADISON and Frances TAYLOR. He was born Abt 1724 in VA, and died MAR 1784 in "Visses," Botetourt,VA.

vi. Jane STROTHER was born 1731 in King George,VA, and died 19 SEP 1820 in Lynwood,Rockingham,VA. She married Thomas LEWIS 26 JAN 1749/1750 in Augusta,VA, son of John LEWIS and Margaret LYNN. He was born 27 APR 1718 in Donegal,IRE, and died 31 JAN 1790 in "Lewiston," Port Republic,Rockingham,VA.


Esq., Justice of Gloucester Co, Virginia, and High Sheriff in 1660. On November 20, 1678, Anthony Savage, of the upper precinct of Sittinburne parish, conveyed to Francis Thornton and Alice Savage Thornton, his wife, 300 acres to be divided from the tract he then lived on of 1,000 acres, called Mongoheocala with division to granddaughter, Margaret Thornton, who afterward married Wm. Strother, Jr., son of the first William and his wife Dorothy. In 1727, William Strother, Jr., and his wife, Margaret Thornton, conveyed this land to their son, William Strother, of "Stafford," (who married Margaret Watts) (Register, Kentucky Hist Soc, May 1911).

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

Dear Marianne,

If you don't have the section on James Madison's family from _Ancestors of American Presidents_ I sent Gary, let me know and I'd be happy to send it.

Cordially,
Marc

[marlow...@frontier.com]

Hi Marc,

I only have what I sent. Pres. James Madison in my line comes from Edwin Conway, Sr and Martha Eltonhead through their son Edwin Conway, Jr.

I was only giving Virginia records that I have access to but nothing more.

Marianne Dillow


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The Buckners of Virginia and the Allied Families of Strother and Ashby

By William Armstrong Crozier, Howard Randolph Bayne



This book has history of Strother family



Janet











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Date: 5/1/2013 2:43:10 PM

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Subject: Re: William Strother gateway ancestor?

Hand and seal this twentieth day of November Anno Dom. 1732. *******

Wm Strother *Seale* ******* Sealed published & declared

In the presence of us R: Rogers

His

George [ T.: ] Sympson Mark

Mary Higginson

At a Court held for King George County the 2d day of March 1732 [1732/3].

The last Will & Testament of William Strother, Gent., Dece., was presented
into Court by Margaret Strother his Widow and Executrix who made oath
thereto and the same was proved by the oath of Richard Rogers and admitted
to record.

Copes Test:

T: Turner Cl: Cur





Known as William Strother of "Stafford," to distinguish him from his nephew,
William Strother, son of his brother, Francis Strother, of St. Mark's Parish

and Susanna Dabney, and this nephew was afterwards known as William
Strother of "Orange."



1721 COURT: Caroline Co, Virginia, William Strother part of 6,000 acre tract
granted in Caroline Co, Virginia, by Alexander Spotswood to his favorites.



1724 MIL: King George County, Virginia, militia commission, 5 Sep.



1733 WILL: King George County, Virginia, Inventory.



1735 COURT: Caroline Co, Virginia, Willam Strother, decd, Margaret Strother,
exer.

William Strother was b. About1697- 1700. After the destruction of the old

mansion house of his grandfather, the first William Strother, he sold his
estate near Port Conway, and purchased on the river opposite Fredericksburg
in 1727. His daughters were all born there at this farm which was sold to
Capt. Augustine Washington, father of George, in 1738. This tract was sold,
per the directions of his will, in 1738 by John Grant,. Gent, and Margaret ,
his then wife, widow and executrix of William Strother, Gent, decd, to Capt.
Augustine Washington. Thus when George Washington was 6 years of age, he
came to live there. There his father died on 12 Apr 1743; his mother lived
there until 1748 when she moved to "Little Falls" and later to
Fredericksburg to be near her only daughter, Mrs. Lewis, who lived at
Kenmore." The deed was dated 2 Nov 1738 and recorded in King George County,
Virginia, and conveyed 280 acres of land in Stafford County, Virginia. On
May 26, I727, William received a grant for 266 acres in King George Co.; and
Sept. 12, 1731, as "Captain" William Strother, 372 acres in Prince William
Co. He was sheriff and justice of King George County, and vestryman of the
parish. He married Margaret Watts. William died in 1732, and in his will
directs sale of his lands in King George and Prince William Cos., and names
his wife as extx (Owen, William Strother of VA, 1898, p.8, with corrections
by compiler).



Children:



(1)Elizabeth Strother m. John Frogg

(2)Agatha, m. John Madison

(3)Margaret, b. In King George county, m. (1) April 26, 1744, George Morton,

who d, in a short time; (2) Oct. 16, 1749, Gabriel Jones.

(4)Anne, m. May 17, 1744, Francis Tyler, resided in Culpeper and later in
Augusta Co.

(5)Jane, m. Jan. 26, I749, Thomas Lewis.

(6)(Alice, m. Henry Tyler).



===

Children of Margaret WATTS and William STROTHER are:

i. Alice STROTHER was born 1719 in Richmond,VA. She married Henry TYLER 1738
in Prince William,VA, son of Francis TYLER and ? ?. He was born Abt 1715.



ii. Elizabeth STROTHER was born 1721 in King George,VA, and died 1752. She
married John FROGG 9 NOV 1738 in Overwharton Pari,Stafford,VA. He was born
Abt 1720, and died 1794 in Bath,VA.



iii. Anne STROTHER was born 1723 in King George. She married Francis TYLER
14 MAY 1744 in Stafford,VA, son of Francis TYLER and ? ?. He was born Abt
1720.



iv. Margaret STROTHER was born 3 SEP 1726 in King George,VA, and died 1822
in Port Republic,Rockingham,VA. She married George MORTON 26 APR 1744 in
King George,VA. He was born Abt 1725, and died Abt 1745. She married Gabriel
JONES 16 OCT 1749 in Stafford,VA, son of John JONES and Elizabeth ?. He was
born 14 MAY 1724 in nr Williamsburg,VA, and died 6 OCT 1806 in Port Republic

Rockingham,VA.



v. Agatha STROTHER was born 1728 in King George,VA. She married John MADISON
1745 in King George,VA, son of Ambrose MADISON and Frances TAYLOR. He was
born Abt 1724 in VA, and died MAR 1784 in "Visses," Botetourt,VA.



vi. Jane STROTHER was born 1731 in King George,VA, and died 19 SEP 1820 in
Lynwood,Rockingham,VA. She married Thomas LEWIS 26 JAN 1749/1750 in Augusta

VA, son of John LEWIS and Margaret LYNN. He was born 27 APR 1718 in Donegal

IRE, and died 31 JAN 1790 in "Lewiston," Port Republic,Rockingham,VA.





Esq., Justice of Gloucester Co, Virginia, and High Sheriff in 1660. On
November 20, 1678, Anthony Savage, of the upper precinct of Sittinburne
parish, conveyed to Francis Thornton and Alice Savage Thornton, his wife,
300 acres to be divided from the tract he then lived on of 1,000 acres,
called Mongoheocala with division to granddaughter, Margaret Thornton, who
afterward married Wm. Strother, Jr., son of the first William and his wife
Dorothy. In 1727, William Strother, Jr., and his wife, Margaret Thornton,
conveyed this land to their son, William Strother, of "Stafford," (who
married Margaret Watts) (Register, Kentucky Hist Soc, May 1911).

Marianne Dillow



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Gary,



President James Madison's known ancestry through his fourth
great-grandparents is treated in the 2009 edition of _Ancestors of American
Presidents_ by Gary Boyd Roberts. William Thornton of Gloucester and
Stafford Co., VA, d. post 1708 is #52 in Madison's ancestor table with no
parents or spouse listed. I'll send you the section on Madison's ancestry
along with the corresponding bibliography.



Cordially,

Marc