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Filmwaves
Sep 11, 2014, 12:11:41 AM9/11/14
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Spino was a very prominent family in Italy with a many nobles (Marquies of Soliceto etc; Giovanna Spino Marchessa of Soliceto married Cosimo Pignatelli Marqui of Lauro etc).
It appears, they appear from nowhere around 1300 and slowly disappear again.
The earliest entry I have is Margareta Spino wife of Niccolo Acciaioli Baron of Kalamata (married in 1328)
There are a few Spino(s) in Greece today.
I was wandering are they a branch of the family Spinola?
It appears, they appear from nowhere around 1300 and slowly disappear again.
The earliest entry I have is Margareta Spino wife of Niccolo Acciaioli Baron of Kalamata (married in 1328)
There are a few Spino(s) in Greece today.
I was wandering are they a branch of the family Spinola?
Filmwaves
Sep 11, 2014, 2:01:16 AM9/11/14
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J.L. Fernandez Blanco
Sep 11, 2014, 7:05:39 PM9/11/14
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Giacomo Pignatelli's wife was Giovanna Spina (not Spino), heir to Saliceto and widow of Antonio Sanseverino dei Principi di Bisignano.
The Spina family, according to the "Libro d'Oro della Nobiltà Italiana" is originally from Amalfi, from where a branch (the Marchesi di Saliceto) transferred to Naples and another one, still extant, established itself in Spezzano, in Cosenza.
OTOH, Niccoló Acciaioli, 1° Conte di Melfi con Rapolla, Cisterna e Spinazzola dal 1349, 1° Conte di Gerace con Tropea e Seminara dal 1349, Conte Palatino del Regno di Napoli e Gerusalemme dal 1348, Barone di Kalamata, Vostitza e Nivelot dal 1338, Signore Sovrano di Corinto dal 1358, Signore di Gioia, Canosa, Corneto e Palo dal 1348, Signore di Ginosa e Matera dal 1348 al 1349, etc., etc., etc., married in 1328 Margherita degli Spini, a daughter of Vanni degli Spini (origin uncertain).
It is not sure they are one and the same family. And, of course, they do not descend from the Spinola family (their arms--Spina's arms, I mean--are utterly different from the Spinolas)
Hope this helps a bit.
Regards,
José Luis.
The Spina family, according to the "Libro d'Oro della Nobiltà Italiana" is originally from Amalfi, from where a branch (the Marchesi di Saliceto) transferred to Naples and another one, still extant, established itself in Spezzano, in Cosenza.
OTOH, Niccoló Acciaioli, 1° Conte di Melfi con Rapolla, Cisterna e Spinazzola dal 1349, 1° Conte di Gerace con Tropea e Seminara dal 1349, Conte Palatino del Regno di Napoli e Gerusalemme dal 1348, Barone di Kalamata, Vostitza e Nivelot dal 1338, Signore Sovrano di Corinto dal 1358, Signore di Gioia, Canosa, Corneto e Palo dal 1348, Signore di Ginosa e Matera dal 1348 al 1349, etc., etc., etc., married in 1328 Margherita degli Spini, a daughter of Vanni degli Spini (origin uncertain).
It is not sure they are one and the same family. And, of course, they do not descend from the Spinola family (their arms--Spina's arms, I mean--are utterly different from the Spinolas)
Hope this helps a bit.
Regards,
José Luis.
Filmwaves
Sep 11, 2014, 11:55:29 PM9/11/14
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On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:05:39 AM UTC+10, J.L. Fernandez Blanco wrote:
Spina is the female form of Spino (Ragazza- Ragazzo).
From what I found in the mean time, the come from a little place called Spina very close to Venise and where known as "De Spinis" around 1240 parts of the family were relocated to Crete where some were employed in Good positions (Magistrates, etc).
There are numerous wills for example: Magister Gregorius de Spinis de Laudis, 7 Jan 1343/43, Fol. 69r, Busta 186, Marco da Piocenza.
Margareta Spino must have been from the same family.
She is not the only one to marry in the Acciaioli family.
Agnes Spino also married Banco Acciaiollli in 1342 (His profession is given as "Gonfaloniere"
Agnes was the daughter of Lapo. And Banco was the son of Dardano (Ambassador) and Tancia Rigaletti, and brother to Pietro (also married to Antonia Spino), Bartolo, Niccolo, Elizabetta, Bartolomea
The Spino family must have been well established in Peloponese.
The family Spino also followed many Italian Illustrious Venetian families around the Augean Island and today, they exist in many Islands as well as in the Peloponese area. It is difficult to create a family tree.
I am told long time ago that Libere d'oro were the "gossip magazines" and information is not very reliable.
Spina is the female form of Spino (Ragazza- Ragazzo).
From what I found in the mean time, the come from a little place called Spina very close to Venise and where known as "De Spinis" around 1240 parts of the family were relocated to Crete where some were employed in Good positions (Magistrates, etc).
There are numerous wills for example: Magister Gregorius de Spinis de Laudis, 7 Jan 1343/43, Fol. 69r, Busta 186, Marco da Piocenza.
Margareta Spino must have been from the same family.
She is not the only one to marry in the Acciaioli family.
Agnes Spino also married Banco Acciaiollli in 1342 (His profession is given as "Gonfaloniere"
Agnes was the daughter of Lapo. And Banco was the son of Dardano (Ambassador) and Tancia Rigaletti, and brother to Pietro (also married to Antonia Spino), Bartolo, Niccolo, Elizabetta, Bartolomea
The Spino family must have been well established in Peloponese.
The family Spino also followed many Italian Illustrious Venetian families around the Augean Island and today, they exist in many Islands as well as in the Peloponese area. It is difficult to create a family tree.
I am told long time ago that Libere d'oro were the "gossip magazines" and information is not very reliable.
Filmwaves
Sep 12, 2014, 12:07:08 AM9/12/14
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> Giacomo Pignatelli's wife was Giovanna Spina (not Spino), heir to Saliceto and widow of Antonio Sanseverino dei Principi di Bisignano.
I wonder if it is Giacomo Some very serious databases have Cosimo.
Giavanna Spino Marchessa of Salicetto, daughter of Francesco Spino, Marqui of Saliceto and Ippolita Carbone; married (1) 1964 Antonio Sanseverino of Bisignano and had a son Luigi Sanseverino b. 1655; married (2) 20 Feb 1667 Cosimo Pignatelli, Marqui of Lauro and had a daughter Francesca Pignatelli b. 1668 d. 24 Jun 1704
J.L. Fernandez Blanco
Sep 12, 2014, 8:09:45 PM9/12/14
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I have the complete genealogy of this family (originating in the XIII century, with no connections whatsoever to the De Spini(is). They inhabited the Segio di Nido in Naples since the early XIV century, with the predicate "Patrizio Napoletano" acquiring at the middle of that century the "Signoria di Bagnano" in Naples (among others).
Due to those intricacies proper to genealogy I happen to descend from this family but not from the Marchesi di Saliceto. If you wish, I can send you the complete known genealogy compiled by Davide Shamà and Andrea Dominici Battelli by mail, so let me know.
Best regards.
José Luis.
J.L. Fernandez Blanco
Sep 12, 2014, 8:17:27 PM9/12/14
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[snip]
Regards,
José Luis.
> I am told long time ago that Libere d'oro were the "gossip magazines" and information is not very reliable.
Well, if you consider the Gotha as a "gossip magazine" the same goes for the "Libro d'Oro della Nobiltà Italiana" as it is the only formal and authorized book published by the Collegio Araldico of Rome, in order to sort out who are considered noble after the fall of the monarchy. I hope you are not getting confused with the "Libro d'Oro della Nobiltà Mediterranea," which sure is a sort of "gossip magazine" edited by a bunch of people who claim nobility and titles which are not theirs and are extinct.
Regards,
José Luis.
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