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Matilda, countess of Perche (early 1100s)

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Jim Stevens

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Feb 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/9/98
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Robert de Lacy, 1st baron of Pontefract (d. aft. 1129) m. Matilda, countess
of Perche. Can anyone tell me who Matilda's parents were?

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Richard Borthwick

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Feb 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/9/98
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I have scanned ES III/4:689-691 and have not found any mention of a marriage
to Robert de Lacy of Pontefract. There are several women called 'Mahaut' in
the right generation, but no lacy marriage. From what I recall of Wightman's
work on the Lacys the marriage to Matilda is noted but beyond a name I don't
think there is any certain identification of her origins. What is your
source for this marriage?
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Jim Stevens

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>Subject: Re: Matilda, countess of Perche (early 1100s)
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Page 9 of De Lacy Bellengari's "The Roll of the House of Lacy" states
"Robert's wife was Matilda Countess de Perche."

De Lacy researchers will know that this 1928 work has had a lot of its
assumptions overturned by later research, but I have never seen this
particular statement challenged in a subsequent work.

Portculis

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Feb 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/11/98
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>Page 9 of De Lacy Bellengari's "The Roll of the House of Lacy" states
>"Robert's wife was Matilda Countess de Perche."
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>De Lacy researchers will know that this 1928 work has had a lot of its
>assumptions overturned by later research, but I have never seen this
>particular statement challenged in a subsequent work.
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Matilda (d. after 1154) wife of Robert de Lacy is not identified by modern
sources, Early Yorkshire Charters, etc. I think we need a cite to a specific
document before we can believe the identification. By your own statement other
things in this work have been challenged. Negative disproof at that time is
almost impossible. You're mainly left with charters, deeds and Continental
records.

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