Greville Family
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I am trying to dig up information on the Greville family during the
16th/17th-century. Since there doesn't appear to be much floating
around on the subject, I thought I would post a query to the group in
the hopes that someone out there can shed some light. If nothing else,
perhaps these rather long winded notes will be of some use to someone!
If you have anything you can add (comments, corrections, additions)
please contact me as this constitutes an important key for me in
connecting branches of my family together.
Specifically, I am interested in:
Sir Giles GREVILLE (d. Apr. 1528) "of Wick, Worc." who married Anne,
daughter of Sir William REDE "of Boarstall, Bucks." Greville had been
the Comptroller in the household of Princess Mary and chamberlain in
South Wales. Anne Rede went on to marry two more times: Sir Adrian
Fortescue and Thomas ap Parry (alias Vaughan). The History of
Parliament has that "on 24 Jan. 1527, Sir Giles Greville of Wick,
Worcestershire, who was probably related by marriage to the Redes,
wrote to Henry Gold, Archbishop Warham's chaplain, that his proposal
for [William] Whorwood [also found as Horwood] was presumably
foreclosed as "he is toward marriage in another place"; as Warham had
confidence in Whorwood and favoured him, Greville, who had been
comptroller of Princess Mary's household and chamberlain in South
Wales, declared his intention of entrusting him with his legal
affairs." (LP Hen. VIII, iv., v.).
Because of Greville's connection with Whorwood, I suspect that he was
a kinsman (perhaps brother?) of Sir Edward Edward Greville "of
Milcote, Weston-upon-Avon," husband of Anne, daughter of John Denton
"of Wittenham, Berks," for reasons I will cite based on data largely
found in The History of Parliament.
William Whorwood (b. before 1505, d. 1545) married about 1527
Cassandra, daughter of Edward Grey "of Enville, Staffs." and Jane
Horde. By Cassandra, William was the father of Margaret Whorwood "of
Putney, Surrey," who married before 14 Feb. 1556 Thomas Throckmorton
(b. bef. 1536), son of Sir Robert Throckmorton (b. bef. 1513, d. 12
Feb. 1581) "of Coughton, Warws. and Weston Underwood, Bucks." by his
wife Muriel, daughter of Thomes, 5th Lord Berkeley (b. 1505, d. 22
Sep. 1534) and Anne Savage. Thomas Throckmorton was also the grandson
of Sir George Throckmorton (b. bef. 1489, d. 6 Aug. 1552) and
Catherine Vaux and his kinsmen included George Throckmorton (b. bef.
1523, d. aft.1573) who married Frances, daugther of John Bridges, 1st
Baron Chandos, and Elizabeth Grey; and Thomas Parr, father of Queen
Catherine Parr; William Parr, who married Elizabeth Bourchier and
Elizabeth Brooke (alias Cobham); and Anne Parr, wife of William
Herbert, Earl Pembroke. "Admitted to the Middle Temple in 1519,
Whorwood soon built up a successful practice: in 1524 he is named,
with John Baldwin, in the funeral accounts of Sir Thomas Lovell I as
among "our counsel," and in 1527 he gave advice to Anne Rede, niece of
Archbishop Warham, in a suit concerning her jointure."
In April of 1528, on the death of Sir Giles Greville, Sir George
Throckmorton asked for Greville's office of Comptroller to Princess
Mary.
I also note that the wife of Thomas Throckmorton's uncle, George (b.
bef. 1523), Frances Bridges, was the sister of Anthony Bridges (b.
bef. 1532, d. aft. 1584) who married about 1558 Catherine Fortescue.
After the death of Sir Giles Greville, his widow Anne Rede married as
her 2nd husband Sir Adrian Fortescue (b. abt. 1476, martyred 10 Jul.
1539) and by him was the grandmother of Joan (or Jane) Bromley who
married Edward Greville (b. 1622) "of Milcote, Warws.", the
great-grandson of Sir Edward Greville and Anne Denton.
This Fortescue connection leads into the families that will be
introduced below as well, as Adrian Fortescue's nephew, Henry
Fortescue (b. bef. 1515, d. 1576), was the husband of 1) Elizabeth,
daughter of William Stafford "of Bradfield, Berks.", and of Mary,
daughter of James Daniel "of London." Mary Daniel was married two
times previously: 1) Sir Edward Darrell "of Littlecote, Wilts." and 2)
Philip Mauncell. Both the Darrell and Mauncell families are connected
with the Bridges and Payne families below.
Additionally, Edward Greville's kinswoman, Margaret Greville, married
Thomas Mytton, son of Richard Mytton by his wife Anne Grey, a sister
of Cassandra who had married William Whorwood. Whorwood's brother,
John, had also married a daughter of Edward Grey and Joyce Horde.
Sir Giles Greville's father-in-law, William Rede "of Boarstall,
Bucks.", was an associate of Edmund Bridges, 2nd Baron Chandos, the
brother of Frances who had married George Throckmorton.
The History of Parliament entry for Cricklade lists the names William
Rede (1529), John Rede (Nov. 1554) and William Hampshire (1558), with
the following note: "The two Redes, related to both the BERKELEY and
BRYDGES families, were uncle and nephew. None of the Members is known
to have resided in Wiltshire but most came from neighboring counties,
especially Gloucestershire: seven sat only for Cricklade and of those
who sat elsewhere Sir Nicholas Poyntz and William Rede were knights of
the shire for Gloucestershire.
Through Sir Giles Greville, these notes show how Anne and her father
William Rede were associated with both the Berkeley and Bridges
families, although, it is certain that this William Rede was not the
MP for Cricklade in 1529 mentioned above. But under the entry for that
Member for Cricklade, is mentions that he had a nephew by the name of
William "of Boddington," who was a member for Gloucestershire in 1554,
and was therefore assigned the designation as "senior" to avoid
confusion.
A Giles Payne and William Rede, identified as the Member of Cricklade,
are mentioned in a Star Chamber case in Edward VI's reign as servants
of Sir Edmund Bridges. It gets interesting here [for me anyway] as
Giles Payne (b. bef. 1519, d. 1 Sep. 1570), servant of Edmund Bridges,
had been an MP for Wootton Basset, and was the husband of Jane
Sydenham, who married 2nd, William HAMPSHIRE (the other MP for
Cricklade mentioned above!). Giles Payne's nephew, Richard Payne "of
Rodborough, Gloucestershire" married in 1543 at Chilworthy, Somerset,
Jane, daughter of George Sydenham and Eleanor Ware and they were the
parents of Sarah Payne, who married 26 Sept. 1575, Giles GREVILLE (b.
4 Oct. 1568), probably "of Kings Charlton." [Gloucestershire Parish
Records, Vol. 11, 1566-1591].
The George Sydenham mentioned was a close kinsman of Alexander
Sydenham, Esq., "of Luxborough," who married a cousin, Anne Sydenham
(d. 1602), daughter of Sir John Sydenham (b. bef. 1493, d. 16 Apr.
1557) "of Brimpton, Somerset," by his wife Ursula Bridges (d. 1608),
the aunt of Edmund Bridges, 2nd Baron Chandos (whom Giles Payne and
William Rede had served). Sir John and Ursula Sydenham were also the
parents of John "The Younger" Sydenham (b. abt. 1528, d. 1590) "of
Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset & Nimpsfield, Gouc." who married Mary,
daughter of Sir Nicholas Poyntz "of Iron Acton, Gloc." and Anne
Verney. Poyntz is also named in connection with William Rede above as
a knight of that shire.
Apart from The History of Parliament and the other sources cited,
another source is "History of the Sydenham Family," Dr. G. F.
Sydenham, of Dulverton. Edited by A.T. Cameron, M.A., F.S.A., Vicar of
St. Michael and All Angels, Nottingham.
Regards,
Patrick Payne