Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
house of St. Pierre, St. Lo, Normandy
412 views
Skip to first unread message
stpierr...@gmail.com
Sep 23, 2018, 10:11:49 AM9/23/18
to
Hi, my ancestor is Pierre de St. Pierre born 1643 in Rouen, Normandy, France and his ancestral line of St. Pierre's can be traced to an Isembart de Saint Pierre in 1393 in Gouy, Normandy. I have found many references to the St. Pierre family having been minor nobles with their castles in the area of St. Lo, Normandy. Also the noble Bunbury family of Cheshire, England were said to be St. Pierre's originally with 1 of the younger sons of the Norman house of St. Pierre coming to England with Hugh Lupus and being given land called Bunbury then taking that as his surname. The St. Pierre family is said to have adopted the St. Pierre surname between the 11th and 12th century, and other information I've found stated the English Peckforton and Beeston families were originally St. Pierre's. Recently a book I read on the history of the Russell or de Rosel family stated the de Rosel's or Russells were the ancient lords of Rosel in the Cotentin, Normandy and were a branch of the great baronial house of Bertram, Barons of Briquebec, William I, 4th Baron of Briquebec was living in 1012 and had for sons, 1. Robert who was ancestor of the houses of Briquebec, Mitford, Bothal and St. Pierre, 2.Hugh who received the castle and fief of Rosel. Does anybody know anymore on the de St. Pierre family who were originally in St.Lo, Normandy and neighboring areas of Normandy with some eventually heading into England during events surrounding William the Conqueror. Any idea of the St. Pierre, Russell/de Rosel connection and any more info about the house of St. Pierre. thank you
Adam R. St. Pierre
Adam R. St. Pierre
Adam St. Pierre
Sep 27, 2018, 1:17:04 PM9/27/18
to
On Sunday, 23 September 2018 10:11:49 UTC-4, Adam St. Pierre wrote:
> Hi, my ancestor is Pierre de St. Pierre born 1643 in Rouen, Normandy, France and his ancestral line of St. Pierre's can be traced to an Isembart de Saint Pierre in 1393 in Gouy, Normandy. I have found many references to the St. Pierre family having been minor nobles with their castles in the area of St. Lo, Normandy. Also the noble Bunbury family of Cheshire, England were said to be St. Pierre's originally with 1 of the younger sons of the Norman house of St. Pierre coming to England with Hugh Lupus and being given land called Bunbury then taking that as his surname. The St. Pierre family is said to have adopted the St. Pierre surname between the 11th and 12th century, and other information I've found stated the English Peckforton and Beeston families were originally St. Pierre's. Recently a book I read on the history of the Russell or de Rosel family stated the de Rosel's or Russells were the ancient lords of Rosel in the Cotentin, Normandy and were a branch of the great baronial house of Bertram, Barons of Briquebec, William I, 4th Baron of Briquebec was living in 1012 and had for sons, 1. Robert who was ancestor of the houses of Briquebec, Mitford, Bothal and St. Pierre, 2.Hugh who received the castle and fief of Rosel. Does anybody know anymore on the de St. Pierre family who were originally in St.Lo, Normandy and neighboring areas of Normandy with some eventually heading into England during events surrounding William the Conqueror. Any idea of the St. Pierre, Russell/de Rosel connection and any more info about the house of St. Pierre. thank you
>
> Adam R. St. Pierre
the family was very prominent in St. Pierre-de-Semilly near St. Lo, Normandy
> Hi, my ancestor is Pierre de St. Pierre born 1643 in Rouen, Normandy, France and his ancestral line of St. Pierre's can be traced to an Isembart de Saint Pierre in 1393 in Gouy, Normandy. I have found many references to the St. Pierre family having been minor nobles with their castles in the area of St. Lo, Normandy. Also the noble Bunbury family of Cheshire, England were said to be St. Pierre's originally with 1 of the younger sons of the Norman house of St. Pierre coming to England with Hugh Lupus and being given land called Bunbury then taking that as his surname. The St. Pierre family is said to have adopted the St. Pierre surname between the 11th and 12th century, and other information I've found stated the English Peckforton and Beeston families were originally St. Pierre's. Recently a book I read on the history of the Russell or de Rosel family stated the de Rosel's or Russells were the ancient lords of Rosel in the Cotentin, Normandy and were a branch of the great baronial house of Bertram, Barons of Briquebec, William I, 4th Baron of Briquebec was living in 1012 and had for sons, 1. Robert who was ancestor of the houses of Briquebec, Mitford, Bothal and St. Pierre, 2.Hugh who received the castle and fief of Rosel. Does anybody know anymore on the de St. Pierre family who were originally in St.Lo, Normandy and neighboring areas of Normandy with some eventually heading into England during events surrounding William the Conqueror. Any idea of the St. Pierre, Russell/de Rosel connection and any more info about the house of St. Pierre. thank you
>
> Adam R. St. Pierre
John Francis
Oct 16, 2020, 5:57:38 PM10/16/20
to
Greetings, Adam,
Thanks for sharing the information that you have. I am a patrilineal descendant of Richard Beeson (1684). There are multiple speculative genealogies that claim our line descends from the Beestons of Cheshire, whom themselves, as you mentioned, are said to be descendants of the Saint Pierre family (George Ormerod; The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester). The descendants of said Richard Beeson have determined his yDNA haplogroup and terminal SNP--we're I-FT270072. Have you or any other St. Pierres yDNA tested? It would be interesting to see if we could corroborate these claims with yDNA data. If you take a yDNA test, please, join the Beeson Surname project at FTDNA (found here: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/beeson-beason-surname-project/about). Hope to hear from you soon! Happy hunting!
Best regards,
John
Thanks for sharing the information that you have. I am a patrilineal descendant of Richard Beeson (1684). There are multiple speculative genealogies that claim our line descends from the Beestons of Cheshire, whom themselves, as you mentioned, are said to be descendants of the Saint Pierre family (George Ormerod; The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester). The descendants of said Richard Beeson have determined his yDNA haplogroup and terminal SNP--we're I-FT270072. Have you or any other St. Pierres yDNA tested? It would be interesting to see if we could corroborate these claims with yDNA data. If you take a yDNA test, please, join the Beeson Surname project at FTDNA (found here: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/beeson-beason-surname-project/about). Hope to hear from you soon! Happy hunting!
Best regards,
John
0 new messages