Brus of Skelton ancestry of Fairfax
John P. Ravilious
Hello All,
The recent discussion re: the Brus family of Skelton &c. brought
up an interesting aside. In looking at Kirkby's Inquest, I noted
under Walton, Yorkshire the following with regard to John (de)
Fairfax:
" Son of Thomas Fairfax of York, who was dead by 1261, by Agnes
daughter and heiress of Henry de Sezevaux, mayor of York temp. Henry
III (Sir Thomas Widdrington's MS., fo. 101). By his wife Clare,
daughter and heiress of William Scott, by Constance, daughter and co-
heiress of Sir Roger Brus of Walton (Thoresby's Ducat. Leod.), John
Fairfax had a son and heir, Thomas Fairfax (York Corporation Papers,
ii., 934), to whom, on the 8th kal. March, 1322, archbishop Melton
granted, "ad instanciam domini Willelmi de Malebis," licence for
divine service to be celebrated "in capella sua de Walton juxta
Thorparches (Reg. Melton, 156b). " [1]
This Roger de Brus is relatively unknown. In her book on the
Brus family, discussing first the Brus family of Scotland, Ruth
Blakely wrote,
' No younger sons of the Yorkshire Bruses are known to
have fared so well. The younger sons of Peter I, Simon
and Roger, received small grants within the Yorkshire
barony from their brother or nephew; Simon's lands were
at Loftus and Roger's at Walton, one of the Arches
manors.' [2]
This works chronologically with the structure given in the
Kirkby's Inquest footnote re: the descent of Walton to the Fairfax
family. Based on these items, I have sending in a followup message
the descent via Sir Roger de Brus of Walton to the Fairfax family of
Walton, Gilling &c.
This provides an interesting ascent for Prince William (via the
Earls Spencer and the Fairfax family), and the emigrant William
Bladen, among others.
Cheers,
John
NOTES
[1] Kirkby's Inquest, p. 220 and note y.
[2] Ruth M. Blakely, The Brus Family in England
and Scotland, 1100-1295 (Woodbridge: Boydell
Press, 2005), pp. 162-323.
John P. Ravilious
Hello All,
Following is the descent from Brus of Skelton to William Fairfax
of Walton (d. 1453).
Any additional documentation, comment or correction is welcome.
Cheers,
John
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1 Robert de Brus
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Death: 11421,2
Burial: priory church of Guisborough, co. Yorks.
Occ: Lord of Cleveland and Annandale
Father: Robert de Brus
of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, co. York
had grant of Skelton from King Henry I, 11063
exchanged other lands for Danby in Cleveland, co. Yorks.
attested a charter of William of Mortain before 1107, and charter of
Henry I at a council in Nottingham, confirming gifts to the church of
Durham, 11092
'Robertus de Brus', made gift of 20 carucates and 2 bovates of land,
and the town of Guisborough, to the canons of Guisborough (confirmed
by grandson Adam de Brus, before 11902), 1124 or before [VCH Yorkshire
III:208-2134]
'Roberti de Brus ', witness [together with Robert de Brus, Robert fitz
Nigel, Hugh de Morville, Hugh 'bret' and Robert Corbet, Walter de
Lindsay and Walter fitz Winemer] to charter of Earl David granting
100s. from Hardingestrona for the use of the church of Glasgow, with
the concession of his wife Matilda; dated ca. 1123 [Lawrie, early
Scottish Charters, pp. 41-2, no. XLVI5]
'Robert de Brus', had charter from King David I of Scots for
' Estrahanent [i.e., Annandale] and all the land from the boundary of
Dunegal
of Stranit [Nithsdale] to the boundary of Randolph Meschin....
Witnesses: Eustace Fitzjohn, Hugh de Morville, Alan de Perci, William
de Somerville, Berengar Engaine, Randolph de Sules, William de
Morville,
Hervi son of Warin and Edmund the chamberlain', dated Scone, ca. 1124
[Donaldson, p. 196]
' Robert de Brus ', witness to charter of King David dated 1126:
' Charter of David I addressed to all throughout his kingdom in
Scotia and Lothian granting to St Cuthbert and his monks, in alms, the
following lands in Lothian:- Coldingham, Old Cambus, Lumsdaine,
Reston, "Remintun", Swinewood, Prenderguest, Ayton, the other Ayton,
"Crammesmuthe", Lamberton, the other Lamberton, Paxton, Fishwick and
Swinton with all rights, customs, appurtenances, etc for the good of
his soul and the souls of his son Henry, his parents, his brothers and
sisters.
Witnesses: John, Bishop [of Glasgow] , Robert de Brus , Herbert
the Chancellor , Ascelin the Archdeacon , Pagan de Braose , Hugh
Brett , Berengar Engain , Gospatric the sheriff , Aimar . ' [Confirmed
in the third year of his reign, at Peebles . 1126
Language: Latin Parchment. Size: 11� x 4�"
Seal: David I. Broken. Natural wax varnished. Attached to strip cut
from foot of document. To strengthen the seal tag someone has stitched
it for 1�" to the foot of the charter. Misc.Ch. 568 ; Cart. Vet. f.
101v [x] ; Misc.Ch. 6805 ; Raine ND App. XV ; Lawrie LXV ; Carr, App
no. 2 p 323 ] [Durham University Library Archives & Special
Collections, Misc.Ch. 5687]
'Robertus de Brus', made grant of the manor of Appleton Wieske
['vocatur Appletona'] and the land between it and Kirk Levington to
St. Mary's, York, ca. 1125-35; witnessed by son Adam de Brus [EYC II:
1-2, no. 648, citing Chartulary of St. Mary's]2
renounced allegiance to Scotland and resigned lands to younger son
Robert before Battle of the Standard, 1138
cf. Richard Borthwick, 'Researching de Brus and Descendants' (cites
Sanders, I J *English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent
1086-1327* (Oxford, 1963 [1960]) 77; DNB III:114; K S B Keats-Rohan
*Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons occurring in English
Documents, 1066-1166* (The Boydell Press: Woodbridge, 1999) I:414-415)
3
Children: Adam (-1143)
Robert (-1142) [ancestor, Bruce of Scotland]
1.1 Adam de Brus
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Death: 11432,1
Occ: lord of Cleveland
of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, co. York
Visitation of Yorkshire pedigree shows his death in 11678
'Ada filio meo', witness to gift of father Robert of the manor of
Appleton Wiske to St. Mary's, York ca. 1125-35 (EYC II: 1-2, cites
Chartulary of St. Mary's)2
previously identified by Farrer2 and others as 1st husband of Jueta de
Arches2
corrections and identification as husband of Agnes of Aumale by Cris
Nash9 and Rosie Bevan10
Spouse: Agnes of Aumale2
Death: aft 11702
Father: Stephen of Aumale (-ca1127)
Mother: Hawise de Mortimer
Children: Adam (ca1134-1196)
William
1.1.1 Adam de Brus
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Death: 11962,1
Birth: ca 113411,12
Occ: lord of Skelton in Cleveland
of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, co. York
custody given to William of Aumale during his minority (shown by Ruth
Blakely to have been his maternal uncle)9 [Note: the manor of Danby
was appropriated by William of Aumale during his minority, and not
returned upon his taking seisin of his other lands10]
record of a plea or convention before Ranulf de Glanville and other
justices in Yorkshire, 22 Hen II (1175-6):
' Adam de Brus redd. comp. de .c. l. de misericordia pro foresta.
In thesauro .l. l. Et debet .l. l. ' [Pipe Roll XXV:11213]
confirmed gifts by his men to the church of Guisborough, before 1176
________________________________
previously held to have been 2nd husband of Agnes of Aumale [Farrer,
Early Yorkshire Charters2; Clay; and other dependent sources].
Cristopher Nash, citing Ruth Blakely, has provided evidence that the
elder Adam de Brus was the husband of Agnes of Aumale, and ancestor by
her of Adam II and his posterity - including the heirs of Peter III de
Brus who also claimed inheritance of the de Aumale estate9
died in 1180 according to Visitation pedigree8
Spouse: Jueta de Arches
Death: aft 12022,3
Father: William de Arches (->1146)
Mother: Jueta
Marr: ca 117012
Children: Isabel (ca1175->1246)
Piers (ca1170-1222)
1.1.1.1a Isabel de Brus*
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Birth: ca 117511
Death: aft 29 Mar 124614
had the vill of Kirk Levington (excepting the holdings of her father's
freeholders there) in frank-marriage15: gift by her father Adam de
Brus to
'Henrico de Perci et Isabelle, filie mee uxori sue,..' ca. 1190-1196
[EYC II:24-25, no. 668]2
" In 1193 Juetta gave land in Askham to her daughter Isabel de Brus.
The charter clearly says "Noveritis me concessisse et presenti carta
confirmasse Isabelle de Brus filie mee et heredibus suis totam terram
de
Ascham..." Farrer uncharacteristically makes the error of assuming
that
Isabella was her granddaughter [EYC I ; no. 548, 549]."10
' Isabelle quit fuit ux' Henr' de Percy', had concession from King
Henry III dated at Westminster, 29 Mar 1246 [Excerpta e Rotulis Finium
I:45014]
she m. 1stly Henry de Percy,
2ndly Roger Mauduit (DD 355, cites Sanders 77)12
cf. EYC II:24-25, no. 6682
Yorks. Inq. I:4, IPM of William de Percy, writ dated 30 Jan
1245/616
Spouse: Henry de Percy, of Topcliffe, co. Yorks. [1st husband]
Death: bef Mar 119815
Father: Joscelin of Louvain (-ca1180)
Mother: Agnes de Percy (-<1204)
Children: William (ca1193-1245), of Alnwick and Topcliffe
Henry de Percy, of Hesshete, Sussex
1.1.1.1b Isabel de Brus* (See above)
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Spouse: Roger Mauduit [2nd husband]
Children: Robert Mauduit
1.1.1.2 Piers de Brus
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Birth: ca 117011
Death: 12222,1
of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, co. Yorks.
Genealogics #I0031485417
succeeded to lordship of Thorpe-Arch on death of mother Jueta9 [see
previous placement by Farrer as grandson of Jueta2- corrected by Ruth
Blakely, as shown]
held 12 carucates at Mappleton and Rolston in chief, 1206 [VCH Yorks.
East Riding VII:306-32118]
A similar letter to the following, written
' to Peter de Brus concerning the brother of Robert de Brus
' [unidentified]
a hostage of the King of Scotland placed with Peter for safekeeping,
to be transferred to the King of England's custody, 13 June 1213 :
' 574. Concerning the K. of Scotland's hostages. The K. to S[aher]
earl of
Winchester. Commands him on receipt, immediately to send the K.
by
good and safe messengers, Reginald his own son, and the son of
William
de Veteripont, hostages of the K. of Scotland, who are in his
custody
by the K.'s order; so that they may be with the K. at Portsmouth on
the
vigil of St. John Baptist instant. Beaulieu. ' [Bain I:100-10119,
cites
Foedera I:113; and Close Roll 15 John, p. 1, m. 4]
Spouse: Joan2
Children: Piers (-1240), of Skelton and Danby
Agnes (->1264), m. William de Lancaster
Sir Roger [SEE BELOW]
Simon
Thomas
Robert
William
1.1.1.2.1 Piers de Brus
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Death: 12402,1
of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, co. York
also held lands at Mappleton in Holderness [VCH Yorks. East Riding VII:
306-32118]
cf. Farrer, EYC II:128-92
GENEALOGICS #I0031485517
Spouse: Hawise de Lancaster
Death: bef Nov 124620
Father: Gilbert fitz Roger (-1220)
Mother: Hawise de Lancaster
Children: Piers III (-<1272)
John
Joan (-<1272), m. Sir Piers de Mauley
Agnes (-<1280), m. Sir Walter de Fauconberg
Lucy, m. Sir Marmaduke de Thweng
Margaret (-<1307), m. Sir Robert de Ros
Laderine (-<1293), m. Sir John de Bellew
[de Bella Acqua]
1.1.1.2.2 Sir Roger de Brus
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of Walton, co. Yorks.
Inspeximus and confirmation of charters and grants to the Friars
Preachers of Jarum, dated at York, 6 Sept 1314:
' A charter of Peter de Brus the third, granting to them in frank
almoin, for the good of his own soul and the soul of Hillary his
wife,.....
witnesses, Roger de Brus his uncle, Roger de Thokotes, John de
Burtona,
knights, ...[CPR 8 Edw II (1313-1317), mem. 24 , p. 17121]
' Johannes de Fayrfax ', held 1 carucate in Walton with Henry de
Camera: he was described as
" Son of Thomas Fairfax of York, who was dead by 1261, by Agnes
daughter and heiress of Henry de Sezevaux, mayor of York temp. Henry
III (Sir Thomas Widdrington's MS., fo. 101). By his wife Clare,
daughter and heiress of William Scott, by Constance, daughter and co-
heiress of Sir Roger Brus of Walton (Thoresby's Ducat. Leod.), John
Fairfax had a son and heir, Thomas Fairfax... " [Kirkby's Inquest, p.
220 and note y22]
discussing first the Brus family of Scotland, Blakely wrote,
' No younger sons of the Yorkshire Bruses are known to
have fared so well. The younger sons of Peter I, Simon
and Roger, received small grants within the Yorkshire
barony from their brother or nephew; Simon's lands were
at Loftus and Roger's at Walton, one of the Arches
manors.'[Ruth M. Blakely, The Brus Family in England
and Scotland, 1100-1295 (Woodbridge: Boydell
Press, 2005), pp. 162-323]
Children: Constance
1.1.1.2.2.1 Constance de Brus
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coheir of her father
cf. Kirkby's Inquest, p. 220 and note y22
Spouse: William Scott
Children: Clare
1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Clare Scott
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had a carucate in Walton, co. Yorks as her inheritance
cf. Kirkby's Inquest, p. 220 and note y22
Spouse: John Fairfax
Children: Thomas (->1321)
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1 Thomas Fairfax
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 22 Feb 132122
of Walton, co. Yorks.
' Elizabeth de Etton = Thomas Fairfax, of Walton' [YAJ XIX:112-324]
'....John Fairfax had a son and heir, Thomas Fairfax (York Corporation
Papers, ii., 934), to whom, on the 8th kal. March, 1322, archbishop
Melton granted, "ad instanciam domini Willelmi de Malebis," licence
for divine service to be celebrated "in capella sua de Walton juxta
Thorparches (Reg. Melton, 156b). " [Kirkby's Inquest, p. 220 and note
y22]
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:11324
Burke's Landed Gentry (1847), I:39425
Spouse: Elizabeth de Etton
Children: William
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1 William Fairfax
----------------------------------------
of Walton, co. Yorks.
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:112-324
Spouse: Ellen de Roucliffe
Children: Thomas (-1395)
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1a Thomas Fairfax*
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Death: 139524
of Walton, co. Yorks.
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:112-324
Burke's Landed Gentry (1847), I:39425
Spouse: Margaret Malbysse
Children: William
Richard (-ca1432)
Other Spouses Margaret Friston [2nd wife]
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1a.1 Richard Fairfax
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Death: ca 143224
of Walton, co. Yorks.
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:112-324
Burke's Landed Gentry (1847), I:39425
Spouse: Eustachia Carthorpe
Children: William (-1453)
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1a.1.1 William Fairfax
----------------------------------------
Death: 145324
of Walton, co. Yorks.
Genealogics #I0023214717
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:112-324
Richardson, Magna Carta p. 31426
Burke's Landed Gentry (1847), I:39425
Spouse: Katherine Neville
Father: Alexander de Neville (->1424), of Thornton Bridge
Children: Sir Thomas (-1505)
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John Watson
> Wednesday, 19 November, 2008
>
> Hello All,
>
> 8. "The Visitation of Yorkshire," Harleian Soc., William Flower,
> Esquire, Norroy King of Arms, Harleian Series, Vol. 16, Mitchell and
> Hughes, Printers, London, 1881, pp. 154-156: pedigree of Hastings of
> Elsing ('Hastynges..' of Fenwick, co. Yorks.), 'The Visitation of
> Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564'.
> 9. Cristopher Nash, "Re: Domesday Descendants corrections: Harcourt &
> 'The Bruses of Skelton and William of Aumale', Yorks Archeol. Jnl.
> (2001) 73:19-28.
> 10. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Domesday Descendants corrections: Harcourt &
> 'The Bruses of Skelton and William of Aumale', Yorks Archeol. Jnl.
> (2001) 73:19-28.
> 11. Douglas Richardson, "Adam II de Brus and his alleged wife, Agnes
Hi John,
Just one small addition. Robert, the son of Isabel Brus and Roger
Mauduit, her second husband, took his mother's name and was known as
Robert de Brus. It is possible that he was the ancestor of the Brus
family of Pickering, Yorkshire whose origin is only conjectured. Ruth
Blakely in her book 'The Brus Family in England and Scotland,
1100-1295' suggests that this possibility, although it's not the only
one [1].
His parentage is confirmed by two deeds in the Percy Chartulary. In
the first, Robert de Brus is named as the son and heir of Roger
Mauduit "Roberto de Brus, filio et heredi ipsius Rogeri [Mauduit]"
and in the second, William de Percy the son of Henry de Percy and
Isabel de Brus, grants the custody of Nigel, son and heir of Robert de
Plumpton to Roger Mauduit, and gave 10 librates of land in Levington
for the sustenance of Nigel and his wife Ivetta. The deed states that
Isabel de Brus, the wife of Roger Mauduit, is the mother of William de
Percy, and that Robert de Brus is the son of Roger Mauduit [3].
Regards,
John
[1] Ruth M. Blakely, The Brus Family in England and Scotland,
1100-1295 (Boydell Press: 2005) p 163
[2] Surtees Society, Vol 117, The Percy Chartulary (Durham: 1911) p 19
No. XXIV & p 33 No. LVII
WJho...@aol.com
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f+Thornton_
(http://books.google.com/books?id=wHZcIRMhSEMC&pg=PA819&dq=Alexander+Neville+of+Thornton)
two successive Alexander Neville of Thornton Bridge
If you can confirm which is the father of Katherine (Neville) Fairfax (wife
of William who d 1453) then we can also add this ancestry.
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In a message dated 11/19/2008 7:07:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,
the...@aol.com writes:
.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1a.1.1 William Fairfax
----------------------------------------
Death: 145324
of Walton, co. Yorks.
Genealogics #I0023214717
Spouse: Katherine Neville
------------------------------------------->>
There is a claim which I cannot quite see, in Vallis Eboracensis
here
_http://books.google.com/books?q=Catherine+Neville+Fairfax+1438&btnG=Se
arch+Books_
(http://books.google.com/books?q=Catherine+Neville+Fairfax+1438&btnG=Search+Books)
that Catherine Neville and William Fairfax married in 1438
Wil Johnson
WJho...@aol.com
the...@aol.com writes:
1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1a.1 Richard Fairfax
----------------------------------------
Death: ca 143224
of Walton, co. Yorks.
cf. John Bilson, Gilling Castle, YAJ XIX:112-324
Burke's Landed Gentry (1847), I:39425
Spouse: Eustachia Carthorpe>>>
----------------
A slight extension here.
You do not provide the parents of Eustachia.
But
_http://books.google.com/books?id=i2MJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA27&dq=Eustachia+carthorpe_
(http://books.google.com/books?id=i2MJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA27&dq=Eustachia+carthorpe)
this source tells us they were
John de Carethorpe and his first wife Elizabeth heiress of her father Sir
Richard de Ergham
Will Johnson
mrdgen
Yorkshire (vol. 2), there is this footnote:
"Guisbro' Chartul. (Surt. Soc.), ii, 155, 161. William del Fehus of
North Loftus, SON AND HEIR of Robert brother of Simon de Brus, gave
the priory 1 oxgang of land in Boythorpe here (Burton, Mon. Ebor.
348). In 1240 Peter had granted the priory exemption from suit of
court for their lands here (Guisbro' Chartul. [Surt. Soc.], ii, 199)."