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Sir John Savage (d. 1495) and Katherine Stanley of Macclesfield, Cheshire
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ToddWhi...@aol.com
Jul 14, 2005, 6:49:23 PM7/14/05
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In Raymond Richard's Old Cheshire Churches (1947) on pp. 205-212 is an
account of the Church of St. Michael in Macclesfield with eight photographs [one
of the exterior and the rest of the monuments within]. The text details each
photograph. The monument of Sir John Savage (d. 1495) and Katherine Stanley
shows them with six grown daughters. Five are detailed by Ormerod who based
his Savage entry on the work of Peter Leycester. Writing in the third
quarter of the seventeenth century Peter Leycester identified five daughters mostly
based on original records "now among the Evidences at Rock-Savage, 1669."
The sixth daughter seems to be Dulcia, daughter of Sir John Savage, who
married Henry Bold in Oct. 1464.
Raymond Richard mistakenly identifies John Savage (d. 1495) as K.G. From
George Frederick Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter from Its
Foundation to the Present Time with Biographical Notices of the Knights in the Reigns
of Edward III. and Richard II. (1841) one can read the Sir John Savage was
elected to the order on 16 Nov. 1488 and installed 19 Jul. 1489 as the 238th
member. He was replaced by Alphonsus duke of Calabria who was invested at
Suessa 19 May 1493 and installed as K.G. in May 1494 as the 243rd member.
Since the John Savage who married Katherine Stanley died in 1495 the K.G.
must be their son who, according to Leycester, had "the Charge of the Left Wing
at the Battel of Bofworth-field" in 1485, and who in 1492 "was flain at the
Siege of Boloigne in France..."
account of the Church of St. Michael in Macclesfield with eight photographs [one
of the exterior and the rest of the monuments within]. The text details each
photograph. The monument of Sir John Savage (d. 1495) and Katherine Stanley
shows them with six grown daughters. Five are detailed by Ormerod who based
his Savage entry on the work of Peter Leycester. Writing in the third
quarter of the seventeenth century Peter Leycester identified five daughters mostly
based on original records "now among the Evidences at Rock-Savage, 1669."
The sixth daughter seems to be Dulcia, daughter of Sir John Savage, who
married Henry Bold in Oct. 1464.
Raymond Richard mistakenly identifies John Savage (d. 1495) as K.G. From
George Frederick Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter from Its
Foundation to the Present Time with Biographical Notices of the Knights in the Reigns
of Edward III. and Richard II. (1841) one can read the Sir John Savage was
elected to the order on 16 Nov. 1488 and installed 19 Jul. 1489 as the 238th
member. He was replaced by Alphonsus duke of Calabria who was invested at
Suessa 19 May 1493 and installed as K.G. in May 1494 as the 243rd member.
Since the John Savage who married Katherine Stanley died in 1495 the K.G.
must be their son who, according to Leycester, had "the Charge of the Left Wing
at the Battel of Bofworth-field" in 1485, and who in 1492 "was flain at the
Siege of Boloigne in France..."
Tim Powys-Lybbe
Jul 14, 2005, 7:30:27 PM7/14/05
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Confirmed to some extent by Grace Holmes in her "The order of the
Garter" pub 1984 by Windsor on p. 100:
"SAVAGE John 237. [Acted with Sir Rhys ap Thomas in support of Henry
Tudor, afterwards Henry VII] South 25. Nom. 16th Nov 1488. inst 19
July 1498. Died Oct 1491."
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Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org
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