Arpads etc.
Rafal Prinke
"Erols" <ste...@erols.com> wrote:
>I have some questions on this myself, and
>hope that someone (maybe Mr. Prinke?) can help.
I am not sure I can help much...
> Vazul/Vazoly of Hungary, abt. 976-1037 married "Anastasia, born in
>Hungary." I have from a former post on this group that he married
Dworzaczek does not list any wife for him. BTW: in _Royalty for commoners_
he is labelled "king of Poland" which is absurd.
> Geza I, 1040-1077, King of Hungary, married Synadena, born in
>Constantinople. Does anyone have any info on her parents? I have her
>father as Theodulos Synadenos, no further info., My apologies to Greek
Nothing else on this.
> Almos of Hungary, d. 1129, married Remislava/Predslava of Kiev. Her
>father was Sviatopolk II of Kiev - any idea who her mother was?
Acc. to Dworzaczek (who follows Baumgarten on the Rurikides) she was
and unnamed concubine.
> Bela II (1108-1141) married Ilona/Jelena of Serbia. I have her parents
>only as Uros of Serbia and Anna. Can anyone expand this line a bit?
I have this ancestry - basically from the tables in _Slownik starozytnosci
slowianskich_ [Dictionary of Slavonic antiquities] (multivolume work in Polish).
1. Helena serbska + po 1146.
2. Stefan (Urosz) I duke of Serbia + 1131.
4. Wlodzimierz duke of Serbia + 1114.
5. N of Rasha
8. Michal duke of Serbia + 1081.
10. Vukan
16. Stjepan-Vojslav duke of Serbia + 1050.
17. N Kometopulida
32. Dragomir_(?) duke of Serbia
34. Gabriel-Radomir Kometopulid
64. Petar duke of Serbia
68. Samuel Kometopulid
136. Nicolaos Comes
137. Ripsimia
274. Symeon tsar of Bulgars * c865, + 27-05-927.
548. Boris-Michal tsar of Bulgars + 02-05-907.
1096. Presjan tsar of Bulgars + 852.
2192. Zvinica of Bulgaria
4384. Omurtag tsar of Bulgars + 831.
8768. Krum khan of Bulgars + 814.
> Rostislav of Kiev - would like more information on him. I believe it is
>correct that his daughter Kunegunda married Premsyl-Ottakar II (1233-1278)
>and was the mother of Vaclav II / Wenceslas II of Poland and Bohemia.
That's correct.
Best regards,
Rafal
John Carmi Parsons
On 30 Sep 1998, Rafal Prinke wrote:
>
> "Erols" <ste...@erols.com> wrote:
> > Geza I, 1040-1077, King of Hungary, married Synadena, born in
> >Constantinople. Does anyone have any info on her parents? I have her
> >father as Theodulos Synadenos, no further info., My apologies to Greek
According to K.G. Windisch, _Kurzgefasste Geschichte der Ungarn_ (Bresslau,
1784), Synadene's mother was a sister of the Byzantine Emperor Nikeforos III
Botoniates. This is repeated in M.D. Sturdza, _Dictionnaire historique et
genealogique des grandes familles de Grece, d'Albanie et de Constantinople_
(Paris, 1983, p. 425), with the additional statement that Nikeforos wanted to
make the Hungarian queen's brother his heir. Note that "Synadene" is merely
the Greek feminine form of the surname "Synadenos" and does not appear to
have been the queen's real Christian name, which seems to be unknown (see
Janos Bak, "Roles and Functions of Queens in Arpadian and Angevin Hungary
[1000-1386 A.D.]," in _Medieval Queenship_, ed. J.C. Parsons (New York,
1993), p. 23).
I have no data on Nikeforod Botoniates' forebears.
John Parsons
Todd A. Farmerie
> >Hungary." I have from a former post on this group that he married
>
> Dworzaczek does not list any wife for him. BTW: in _Royalty for commoners_
> he is labelled "king of Poland" which is absurd.
The Premyslava marriage is the result of confusion with his brother
Ladislav, her actual husband, who was wrongly assinged as father of
Andrew and Bela.
> > Bela II (1108-1141) married Ilona/Jelena of Serbia. I have her parents
> >only as Uros of Serbia and Anna. Can anyone expand this line a bit?
>
> I have this ancestry - basically from the tables in _Slownik starozytnosci
> slowianskich_ [Dictionary of Slavonic antiquities] (multivolume work in Polish).
>
> 1. Helena serbska + po 1146.
> 2. Stefan (Urosz) I duke of Serbia + 1131.
> 4. Wlodzimierz duke of Serbia + 1114.
> 5. N of Rasha
> 8. Michal duke of Serbia + 1081.
> 10. Vukan
> 16. Stjepan-Vojslav duke of Serbia + 1050.
> 17. N Kometopulida
> 32. Dragomir_(?) duke of Serbia
> 34. Gabriel-Radomir Kometopulid
> 64. Petar duke of Serbia
> 68. Samuel Kometopulid
> 136. Nicolaos Comes
> 137. Ripsimia
> 274. Symeon tsar of Bulgars * c865, + 27-05-927.
> 548. Boris-Michal tsar of Bulgars + 02-05-907.
> 1096. Presjan tsar of Bulgars + 852.
> 2192. Zvinica of Bulgaria
> 4384. Omurtag tsar of Bulgars + 831.
> 8768. Krum khan of Bulgars + 814.
I am assuming that 68 Samuel is the Bulgarian King of that name. If so
then the link through his mother to the old tsars is something I had not
seen before.
taf
Rafal Prinke
"Todd A. Farmerie" <ta...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
>> 68. Samuel Kometopulid
>> 136. Nicolaos Comes
>> 137. Ripsimia
>> 274. Symeon tsar of Bulgars * c865, + 27-05-927.
>
>I am assuming that 68 Samuel is the Bulgarian King of that name. If so
>then the link through his mother to the old tsars is something I had not
>seen before.
As I said, it comes from _Slownik starozytnosci slowianskich_,
vol. 1, part 2, table IV. The source is given as:
V.N. Zlatarski, I. Dujcev, _Imiennik bulgarskich knjazjej_.
And... there is a question mark like this:
Nicolaos Comes
x Ripsimia, c. cara Symeona?
where "c. cara" means "d. of tsar".
Best regards,
Rafal